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105-year-old singer says Hitler was a 'good guy'
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Posted on 12/16/2008 9:44:53 PM PST by nickcarraway

A 105-year-old singer whose past as a singer in Nazi Germany has dogged his reputation for decades is back in the spotlight after telling a Dutch television show Adolf Hitler was a "good guy."

The Dutch-born Johan Heesters, who now has Austrian citizenship and is still popular and performing in Germany, was asked by a Dutch journalist what he thought of Hitler.

"A good guy, that's what he was," he said on the clip shown Thursday on the current affairs show "De Wereld Draait Door" ("The World Keeps Turning").

His wife, Simone Rethel, immediately corrected him, saying that Hitler was the worst criminal in the world.

"I know, doll," Heesters responded. "But he was nice to me."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dutch; hitler; johanheesters; shutupandsing
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To: Pontiac

The press isn’t upset with Palestinian terorrists murdering Jews today. The New York Times will actually refrain from calling even the murder of a 5 year old child “terrorism” depending on the territory that the action occurs in.


21 posted on 12/16/2008 11:13:50 PM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: nickcarraway
....."I don't think that's quite accurate.".....

Ahhh, yes he was thought well of in the US press. There were many in the US that agreed with much of what he said, and many that didn't want to go to war with him. Look back at the early years of the Kennedy's. The old man was pretty much on Hitlers side and caused problems for the anti Hilterites. It's not something that the Kennedy clan brags about, but it got pretty thick for awhile. Even JFK was diddling a Nazi for awhile and got J. Edgar Hoover looking at the Kennedy's.

FDR ran on a platform to keep us out of the "European problem". FDR could see it coming, but wouldn't get elected on a war platform. Churchill had already "wooed" FDR and convinced him war was inevitable. Many in the US felt that Britannia needed to get cut down to size after all their global colonies were getting less manageable.

Much of this is why many believe the evidence points to FDR "allowing" The attack on Pearl Harbor. FDR wanted to make Europe the main front in the coming war, but the Japs were the ones that got us in the war. A few days later, Hitler declared war on us anyway. Where did FDR fight first? Europe.

Think of it in the same terms many think of today in the ME. Afghanistan attacked the US, but we also went to war in Iraq and made it the main front. In the big picture, we are still fighting AlQuida, but you won't convince everybody of that.

I can't remember the name of the program now, but there was a program on the History channel that covered this period of time and named names. There were many newspapers that editorialized the same thoughts Hitler was spewing every day back in the '30's. In the '30's, you wouldn't get all that many arguments different from Adolph's about Jews and Blacks. Also, the "birth" of American socialism was breaking to the mainstream and having the government running everything during bad economic times sounded exciting.

Sound familiar?

22 posted on 12/16/2008 11:33:31 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Pontiac

Bingo!


23 posted on 12/16/2008 11:52:34 PM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Boycott GE this Christmas. Operation Pluck the Peacock!)
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To: nickcarraway

And FDR referred to Stalin as “Uncle Joe”. Stalin was anything but cuddly.


24 posted on 12/16/2008 11:53:54 PM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Boycott GE this Christmas. Operation Pluck the Peacock!)
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To: Pontiac

And I think Mao outclassed them all.


26 posted on 12/16/2008 11:56:49 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Rastus
And I think Mao outclassed them all.

I think your right. But I was thinking of Hitler’s contemporaries and as to why the western liberal press considered him a monster.

Then if we went to murders of innocents as a percentage of the country’s population I think the title would go to Pol Pot.

27 posted on 12/17/2008 12:20:13 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Pontiac

All told, tens to hundreds of millions dead in the twentieth century to leftist, communist regimes, and their lives are all swept under the rug because they are inconvenient to modern leftist politicians.


28 posted on 12/17/2008 12:26:43 AM PST by Rastus
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To: Pontiac

Yet in terms of murders within a timeframe, Hitler takes the prize. At least 90% percent of his victims died witin the last 5 years of his rule. Stalin’s victim number spreads over almost 30 years. (Anyway “ranking” massmurdering tyrants is somewhat inane IMO... in the end it doesn’t matter in the verdict of them.)


29 posted on 12/17/2008 12:29:29 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
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To: nickcarraway

He’s a pretty good guy, but there’s a problem,it’s not your average problem, but it’s a pretty big problem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rO51C-A84g


30 posted on 12/17/2008 1:22:38 AM PST by death2tyrants
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To: SolidWood
Anyway “ranking” massmurdering tyrants is somewhat inane IMO... in the end it doesn’t matter in the verdict of them

I agree.

The most interesting point to note is that the top performing mass murders were all Socialist/Communist.

31 posted on 12/17/2008 1:37:28 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: dfwgator

“And now it’s...
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Deutschland is happy and gay!
We’re marching to a faster pace
Look out, here comes the master race!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Rhineland’s a fine land once more!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany”


32 posted on 12/17/2008 2:13:12 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: BradyLS

Hos wife is only 59 and is pretty darn good looking for her age: google image her name and you’ll see.

With a wife like that, I’m surprised he hasn’t had a fatal heart attack. Look at the photos and you’ll see why.


33 posted on 12/17/2008 3:17:02 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: SolidWood

I don’t know about that. Many people think Mao killed 60 million in just a few years after 1949.


34 posted on 12/17/2008 3:19:12 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Pontiac
But I was thinking of Hitler’s contemporaries and as to why the western liberal press considered him a monster.

I think that if there had been no photos of the camps and fewer witnesses that the media would be ignoring it today.

The pictures are so horrific, and there are so many personal accounts out there that the media HAS to be on the record as denouncing it. Otherwise they'd been seen as approving.

35 posted on 12/17/2008 4:37:32 AM PST by Dianna
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To: chuckles
To add just a little more background:

"While the facade of talk thus openly presented to the public bore all of the outward appearances of peace and of staying out of the war, the reality which lay behind it was different. Observers at Washington noted not only that we were committed to aiding Britian and France, but that Mr. Roosevelt wished to participate in the war in some way, considering it improved his chances for a third term, and that he even contemplated the possibility of our being in the war in six months. After the war was over we were told officially:

'As early as the fall of 1939, the President began to think about the administrative arrangements which might be necessary if we were forced to go to war. It was deemed inadvisable to seek from Congress positive legislation for industrial mobilization since, in a campaign year, such a request might set off a partisan debate and if anything resulted it might be restricitve legislation.'" [emphasis added]

[Frederic R. Sanborn, Deisgn for War: A Study of Secret Power Politics, 1937-1941, Devin-Adair, New York, 1951, pp. 91-92]

36 posted on 12/17/2008 5:03:34 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: Pontiac; BlackElk

Yeah, ole Adolf trails Stalin, Mao, AND Planned Parenthood.


37 posted on 12/17/2008 5:58:33 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Darkwolf377

This really isn’t a surprise.
Lots of folks thought Hitler was a “good guy.” I think that just about everybody who knew him personally liked him (sorta like Clinton...). He was good with dogs and kids, too.
Its amazing what sort of masks monsters can hide behind... We have the benefit of over 60 years of hindsight to see what he really was.


38 posted on 12/17/2008 6:07:19 AM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Pontiac

Bingo. Socialism/collectivism are the common denominators of them all. The national and ideological differences are minor.


39 posted on 12/17/2008 6:34:01 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
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To: chuckles

We live in an artificial crisis today, created to establish sweeping “change” to the American model, and rather than prosecute those who orchestrated this fiasco we are letting them RUN the hearings in Congress.


40 posted on 12/17/2008 7:16:56 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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