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Huntsman wants to push cigarette tax to $3 (Utah)
Salt Lake Truibune ^ | 1/07/09 | Robert Gehrke

Posted on 01/09/2009 9:45:53 AM PST by colorcountry

Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. endorsed a $2.30 tax increase on a pack of cigarettes this morning, giving Utah the highest state cigarette tax in the country with a goal of wiping out the remaining state sales tax on food.

"I think that's a perfectly fair tradeoff," the governor said after publicly embracing the tax hike for the first time and going further than previous legislative proposals. Huntsman's target would more than quadruple the existing 70-cent tax on a pack of smokes.

Legislative leaders were open to the idea, and said it will be among the topics discussed in the upcoming legislative session.

House Speaker Dave Clark, R-Santa Clara, said he would be supportive of the tobacco tax increase as long as there was an equal tax cut.

"I think you could quickly move [to raise] the tobacco tax to remove the sales tax on food," said Clark, speaking before a United Way-sponsored discussion of legislative priorities.

Senate President Mike Waddoups, R-Taylorsville, said the governor's proposal will need to be batted around.

"I've always been an advocate for removing the state tax on food, but as I listen to my caucus, I'm not sure they are," he said. "A lot of the body has absolutely campaigned on the promise of not raising taxes. … It's an alternative that needs to be discussed."

Sen. Allen Christensen, R-North Ogden, is already having a bill crafted that would raise the tax on a pack of cigarettes to $2. Huntsman's

proposal would raise it to $3. A pack of cigarettes now costs between $3.50 and $5 a pack.

As of last August, New York had the highest state cigarette tax in the nation at $2.75, according to figures compiled by the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. However, many cities across the country impose their own cigarette tax, making the cost of a pack much higher. The national average was $1.18.

Michael Siler, director of governmental affairs for the Utah Chapter of the American Cancer Society, said he has known for a while the governor supported raising the tobacco tax, but didn't know how high he would set the target.

"As far as we're concerned, it's a good thing," he said, saying it would encourage smokers to kick the habit and could help cover the smoking related costs.

Cigarette tax supporters have said that every 10 percent increase in the cost of a pack of cigarettes, smoking rates would fall by 6.5 percent among youth and 2 percent among adults.

The Utah Legislature and the governor reduced the state portion of the sales tax on food from 4.75 percent to 2.75 percent effective January 2007 and then down to 1.75 percent as of January 2008.

Huntsman said that the $3 per pack tax would bring in $120 million to $150 million in revenue, beyond the $60 million the current tax generates. Huntsman said that would be "more than enough" to eliminate the sales tax on food. That would cost about $75 million.

"It would more than cover that remaining portion of the sales tax on food and I think it would show a great commitment to the people of the state if we would think creatively about how to get something like that done," Huntsman said.

Under Christensen's proposal, which the American Cancer Society and a network of other anti-smoking and public health advocates had supported, most of the money would have gone to cover health costs and toward smoking cessation programs.

Siler said they would still like money to go to those purposes, but the group recognizes that in these tough budget times it might not happen. He said his organization will still make the case to legislators this year and in future years that it would be a worthwhile purpose for the new revenue.

Huntsman said that, under his proposal, there would be plenty of money left for cessation and health programs.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: huntsman; nannystate; rinos; socialengineering; socialism; utah
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1 posted on 01/09/2009 9:45:53 AM PST by colorcountry
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To: colorcountry

Make it $5.00 and I am onboard!


2 posted on 01/09/2009 9:47:41 AM PST by WellyP
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To: colorcountry

Using the power of taxation to control and alter people and society is just as wrong no matter if there’s an R or a D after the name that signs the bill. What the *&^% is happening to this country?


3 posted on 01/09/2009 9:48:57 AM PST by SoDak (Molon Labe)
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To: WellyP; All

Why???


4 posted on 01/09/2009 9:49:28 AM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: colorcountry

I’m not in Utah, but my state won’t be getting another dime for tobacco from me. Glad to be out of that game. They can fund their programs on someone else’s back.


5 posted on 01/09/2009 9:50:45 AM PST by mysterio
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To: colorcountry
Sorry, you bunch of money-grubbing bastards, but if you really want to raise cash, forget about smokes - go for a $4 tax on those Starbucks mokochokeoh vente grande lattes!

The smokers are a depleting resource - most low income, eventually will quit/die/go bankrupt(and get subsidized). These Starbucks mokochokeoh vente grande latte fart-smelling asswipes got money! They must have to be constantly interfering with everybody else's life.

6 posted on 01/09/2009 9:51:28 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: colorcountry

There is no difference between the Republicans and Democrats any more. They are both enemies of the people.


7 posted on 01/09/2009 9:52:13 AM PST by microgood
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To: Gaffer; Utah Binger
if you really want to raise cash, forget about smokes - go for a $4 tax on those Starbucks mokochokeoh vente grande lattes!

Starbucks? in Utah??? LOL The majority dislikes coffee as much as cigarettes.

8 posted on 01/09/2009 9:54:00 AM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: colorcountry
More of the libs unintended consequences at work...they sue the tobacco firms, mount a huge "quit smoking" campaign, and outlaw smoking everywhere, then think that taxing it is going to save their butts.

I would almost bet that once he gets this tobacco tax passed, and they see it's not filling their "void", they will either forget about getting rid of the food tax, or reinstate it.

That's the biggest fear of the "fair tax"...the fear that they will change to it, and then re-add the regular income tax to it.

Plus, for the state it's a lose-lose situation...IF...as they say "all smokers die young"...then their revenue source would be perpetually dying out.
9 posted on 01/09/2009 9:56:22 AM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of the 0bamanation.)
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To: colorcountry

It’s BS like this that makes folks that are not political junkies think that Republicans are hypocrites ... so much for small government and individual liberty.


10 posted on 01/09/2009 9:56:41 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: colorcountry

Tax ice cream. Utah has the highest per capita ice cream sales in the country. Raise it $2 a scoop. Then people can be taxed thin.


11 posted on 01/09/2009 9:57:34 AM PST by albie
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To: colorcountry

Maybe not Utah and I thought about it. However, the place in this case is really immaterial. The taxing sentiments are ubiquitous throughout this country as are Starbucks locations.


12 posted on 01/09/2009 9:58:48 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: colorcountry

This makes the Gov a hero to Mormons. Utah has one of the lowest cigarette sales in the country. Smokers are nasty sub-humans in the eyes of a Mormon.


13 posted on 01/09/2009 9:59:18 AM PST by albie
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To: bassmaner

Who smokes in Utah?


14 posted on 01/09/2009 10:00:22 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: albie
"Smokers are nasty sub-humans in the eyes of a Mormon."

They gonna be sorry when they find out God smoke Camels.....

15 posted on 01/09/2009 10:00:52 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: colorcountry

Ok, they say with every 10% increase in the tax, the smoking rates for youth go down 6.5% and 2% for adults. So, they are going to raise the tax 400%, so the effective smoking rates should go down 240% and 80% respectively. How do they come up with actually taking in more money when there will basically be no smokers left? Also, how do you stop youth smoking by 240%? Once again, their numbers lie, lie, lie.


16 posted on 01/09/2009 10:01:28 AM PST by compman (left handed people are the only ones in their right mind!)
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To: colorcountry

Why stop at $3.00?

Why not $5.00? Or $10.00? Heck, let’s use all of his political capital and make it $25.00.

The question is, when you tax cigarettes out of existence, how will you recoup the lost tax revenue?

I’m sick of political morons who have no business in elected office.


17 posted on 01/09/2009 10:04:29 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: mysterio
...my state won’t be getting another dime for tobacco from me. Glad to be out of that game.

Same here. Nevada took the tobacco lawsuit money and gave it to the universities instead of health care, promising every h.s. graduate a college scholarship if they could fog a mirror. Worked out great until the money started to dwindle after a few years. Amazing how politicians tax tobacco to force people to quit and then complain that they're not getting enough money from tobacco taxes after people are forced to quit.

18 posted on 01/09/2009 10:05:52 AM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: FrankR
More of the libs unintended consequences at work...

Yup. I wonder if that $120-150 million figure they're throwing around includes the decreased number of smokers. FYI, what they aren't mentioning in this article about their decrease of the food tax is that when they dropped the tax on groceries, they raised the tax on "prepared" food, so eating out became more expensive. Nice, huh?

19 posted on 01/09/2009 10:07:09 AM PST by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: albie

Huntsman is just Arnold-lite anyway.


20 posted on 01/09/2009 10:08:49 AM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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