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Our First FReeper Book Club: Atlas Shrugged
A Publius Essay | 15 January 2009 | Publius

Posted on 01/15/2009 10:32:08 AM PST by Publius

Over the past few weeks, Ayn Rand’s classic, Atlas Shrugged, has been mentioned in articles in the Wall Street Journal and among conservative and libertarian bloggers. Two questions are being debated by those who have read the book.

  1. Are we living in a time line that follows the book?
  2. What chapter are we in?

Besides those who have read the book, there are FReepers with little awareness of Rand and her work. Some are turned off by the length of her works of fiction. Some of a more religious bent have problems with Rand’s atheism. Some wish she had left the few sex scenes out. Some just think she’s a bad writer.

I would like to propose our first FReeper Book Club effort: A chance for a group of us to read Atlas Shrugged together, both old hands and newcomers to the book. Once this effort settles in, I or others might want to start FReeper Book Clubs dedicated to Forrest McDonald’s States’ Rights and the Union, or Alexis de Toqueville’s Democracy in America. I like the idea of an interleaved reading of both the “Federalist Papers” and “Anti-Federalist Papers” together in strict chronological order so as to see the point and counterpoint of the debate over the Constitution. I’ve picked Atlas Shrugged for starters because it’s a hot topic and it’s fun. Once we get into the habit of reading and discussing together, we can tackle the heavier stuff.

The book is divided into 30 chapters. I propose to post a thread on one chapter every Saturday, which would make 30 threads over a period of 30 weeks to cover the entire book. I’ll provide a short synopsis of the chapter, expound on certain themes and raise questions to stimulate debate. If FReeper Book Club members feel that a faster pace is better, we can settle on one.

Atlas and Me

I came to Atlas Shrugged via the usual method: I read it in high school. The bully who sat behind me and enjoyed pounding me at the Catholic prep school I attended in New Jersey exposed me to the book by hitting me on the head with it. Its weight made an immediate impression. Our sophomore English teacher was not teaching the book, and he suggested that the bully pound me with something of lesser weight, such as The Red Badge of Courage.

The English teacher panned the book, stating that it was the kind of book an immature person might enjoy, but a mature adult with experience of the world could not take Rand seriously. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were not realistic.

The vice principal, a priest from Brooklyn who believed in FDR, JFK, LBJ and God, in that order, excoriated Rand for writing “an anti-Christian epic” and broadly hinted that the bully was sinning by reading it. Better to hit someone over the head with it. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were evil.

I read the book anyway.

The Strange World of Atlas Shrugged

Rand’s book was written between 1945 and 1956 and published in 1957. During the postwar years, America saw massive changes in society and technology, and the shape of world politics shifted mightily. None of this is reflected in the book. Some of the differences between Rand’s world and our own are rather egregious and require comment.

The easiest way to explain these anomalies is to say that Rand lacked the scientific background to project technological change and simply dealt with the technology of her era while projecting political change. But then how did she project the use of ultrasound for Project Xylophone and the holographic projection that protected Galt’s Gulch? There is a strange mix of the old and the new. What marks a total departure from our reality is the change in politics and in the American character.

One can accept all this as artist’s license, but I tried to come up with my own logic for how Rand’s America came to this pass.

Alternative History: Trying the Harry Turtledove Approach

If one wanted to create an alternative history for the universe of Atlas Shrugged, one could start with the 4-way election of 1948. In this alternative history, Henry Wallace won the race, defeating Truman, Dewey and Thurmond, establishing a Labor government on the British model in America. The warning voices of Martin Dies, John Bricker, Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon were stilled.

Wallace wanted no cold war with the Soviets, and with the quick withdrawal of American forces from Europe, Germany was reunified under a communist People’s State government. The Soviet Union, now the People’s State of Russia, never geared up for war, settling instead for passive mediocrity. Britain never rejected Clement Atlee, and with the abolition of the monarchy and the establishment of a written constitution on the German model, the People’s State of England replaced the United Kingdom. In France, De Gaulle never came to power, and the Fourth Republic morphed into the People’s State of France.

In the Western Hemisphere, figures similar to Fidel Castro established the People’s State of Mexico and other communist countries in Central and South America.

America did not go all the way to People’s State status, however, although intellectuals worked hard toward that end. Instead, America became a gray, downtrodden country accepting an atmosphere of sad decay, much like England today. Americans accepted that things were hopeless and that nothing could be done. Feelings replaced facts. The very nature of reality was questioned.

It took only a decade of economic stasis, misguided politics and cultural pollution to create the hell described by Rand.

Some Thoughts on the Movie

A scriptwriter would have a hard time shrinking the story to fill a two or three hour time slot even if all the long speeches were eliminated. A miniseries for television would have served the book better.

This effort would be a production designer’s dream. I would point to John Vallone, who handled production design for Walter Hill’s 1984 classic, “Streets of Fire”. Vallone created a fascinating mix of Fifties and Eighties that had no parallel in real time. Something in the same vein would make the movie memorable, rather than setting it in the present or a future that looks like the present.

Let’s Get Started

I will build a ping list for our FReeper Book Club, so sign in on this thread. I’ll use the keyword “freeperbookclub” to mark these threads as they are posted.

Welcome to our first effort. Prepare to read and discuss.


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To: Publius; kb2614
I'm starting it tomorrow - second read. My first was 20-some years ago and I don't think I appreciated as much as I anticipate I will this time.

I will probably knock it off in a couple of weeks but I will be interested in the discussion here. Please add me to your ping list.

Thanks!

101 posted on 01/15/2009 11:28:11 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: GeronL
I've heard "Off the Grid"

Survivalist a better description,I think.

102 posted on 01/15/2009 11:30:28 AM PST by BARLF
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To: Publius

Please add me to your ping list. Its been a while since I read the book.


103 posted on 01/15/2009 11:31:41 AM PST by fellowpatriot
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To: AmericanGirlRising
In my Christian high school, we weren’t permitted to read Atlas Shrugged because of Rand’s atheism...

Ahhh - and you couldn't read it on your own?


104 posted on 01/15/2009 11:32:54 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Publius
Nowhere has Rand's lead-fisted style been better parodied than here: Atlas Dined.
105 posted on 01/15/2009 11:33:02 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Publius

I read the book and did skip through the radio address after having to go back and reread every other paragraph. Glad she put her philosophy in novel form because it is a lot easier to understand that way.

I highly recommend the book. It parallels the times we live in.


106 posted on 01/15/2009 11:33:57 AM PST by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Liberty Valance
I’ve read ‘The Fountainhead’ twice and absolutely love that one.

In my first job interview, the boss told me "We all start out thinking we are Howark Roark, but we end up realizing that we are Peter Keating". I wanted to punch his lights out. 23 years later, at least I'm still trying to live by Roark's principles, but I find myself acting like Keating from time to time.

107 posted on 01/15/2009 11:33:57 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (The U.S. Constitution may be flawed, but it's a whole lot better than what we have now)
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To: r9etb

Are you in?


108 posted on 01/15/2009 11:34:20 AM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peopleÂ’s money.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Edward Hermann

I've always liked Herrmann. I will never forget him in the role of Harry in "Harry's War."

109 posted on 01/15/2009 11:35:23 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Hey Obama, why lawyer up when you can pony up? Show us your vault copy BC)
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To: Publius
Ayn Rand's atheism matters nothing to me. That is between her and her Creator. Clear thinking is clear thinking. Understanding is understanding. Discernment is what is missing in our present age.

Please sign me up.

Thanks

FMCDH(BITS)

110 posted on 01/15/2009 11:36:10 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: maine-iac7

I read parts (the Galt stuff) in college. In high school, studying was more important since calculus and physics didn’t come easy. ;)

Nice penguins.


111 posted on 01/15/2009 11:36:13 AM PST by AmericanGirlRising (Buying carbon credits will not get me into Heaven. I am second - http://iamsecond.com/#/home/)
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To: Publius

In please!

Tatt


112 posted on 01/15/2009 11:38:35 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: bk1000

Add me please


113 posted on 01/15/2009 11:40:16 AM PST by FreeorDead
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To: Publius

Add me to the list.


114 posted on 01/15/2009 11:41:01 AM PST by depressed in 06 (Dope in chains, the Chicago way.)
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To: MarkL

My favorite bumper sticker in that vein was Galt/Reardon 08. I saw it on a few cars earlier this year.


115 posted on 01/15/2009 11:42:12 AM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Misterioso

Saw this thread and thought of our discussion the other day. Interested?


116 posted on 01/15/2009 11:42:38 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (The U.S. Constitution may be flawed, but it's a whole lot better than what we have now)
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To: Publius

Nah. I would be counted among the apostates.


117 posted on 01/15/2009 11:42:48 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Publius

Just got the book for Christmas and have just started reading it. Perfect timing! Please add me to your ping list.


118 posted on 01/15/2009 11:42:48 AM PST by reegs
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To: Publius

Please add me to this ping list!


119 posted on 01/15/2009 11:43:01 AM PST by ChowChowFace
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To: Publius

Count me in - I’ve been trying to read the book for the past several weeks. I’ll go to another bookstore today to see if they have it in stock.


120 posted on 01/15/2009 11:44:43 AM PST by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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