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Our First FReeper Book Club: Atlas Shrugged
A Publius Essay | 15 January 2009 | Publius

Posted on 01/15/2009 10:32:08 AM PST by Publius

Over the past few weeks, Ayn Rand’s classic, Atlas Shrugged, has been mentioned in articles in the Wall Street Journal and among conservative and libertarian bloggers. Two questions are being debated by those who have read the book.

  1. Are we living in a time line that follows the book?
  2. What chapter are we in?

Besides those who have read the book, there are FReepers with little awareness of Rand and her work. Some are turned off by the length of her works of fiction. Some of a more religious bent have problems with Rand’s atheism. Some wish she had left the few sex scenes out. Some just think she’s a bad writer.

I would like to propose our first FReeper Book Club effort: A chance for a group of us to read Atlas Shrugged together, both old hands and newcomers to the book. Once this effort settles in, I or others might want to start FReeper Book Clubs dedicated to Forrest McDonald’s States’ Rights and the Union, or Alexis de Toqueville’s Democracy in America. I like the idea of an interleaved reading of both the “Federalist Papers” and “Anti-Federalist Papers” together in strict chronological order so as to see the point and counterpoint of the debate over the Constitution. I’ve picked Atlas Shrugged for starters because it’s a hot topic and it’s fun. Once we get into the habit of reading and discussing together, we can tackle the heavier stuff.

The book is divided into 30 chapters. I propose to post a thread on one chapter every Saturday, which would make 30 threads over a period of 30 weeks to cover the entire book. I’ll provide a short synopsis of the chapter, expound on certain themes and raise questions to stimulate debate. If FReeper Book Club members feel that a faster pace is better, we can settle on one.

Atlas and Me

I came to Atlas Shrugged via the usual method: I read it in high school. The bully who sat behind me and enjoyed pounding me at the Catholic prep school I attended in New Jersey exposed me to the book by hitting me on the head with it. Its weight made an immediate impression. Our sophomore English teacher was not teaching the book, and he suggested that the bully pound me with something of lesser weight, such as The Red Badge of Courage.

The English teacher panned the book, stating that it was the kind of book an immature person might enjoy, but a mature adult with experience of the world could not take Rand seriously. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were not realistic.

The vice principal, a priest from Brooklyn who believed in FDR, JFK, LBJ and God, in that order, excoriated Rand for writing “an anti-Christian epic” and broadly hinted that the bully was sinning by reading it. Better to hit someone over the head with it. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were evil.

I read the book anyway.

The Strange World of Atlas Shrugged

Rand’s book was written between 1945 and 1956 and published in 1957. During the postwar years, America saw massive changes in society and technology, and the shape of world politics shifted mightily. None of this is reflected in the book. Some of the differences between Rand’s world and our own are rather egregious and require comment.

The easiest way to explain these anomalies is to say that Rand lacked the scientific background to project technological change and simply dealt with the technology of her era while projecting political change. But then how did she project the use of ultrasound for Project Xylophone and the holographic projection that protected Galt’s Gulch? There is a strange mix of the old and the new. What marks a total departure from our reality is the change in politics and in the American character.

One can accept all this as artist’s license, but I tried to come up with my own logic for how Rand’s America came to this pass.

Alternative History: Trying the Harry Turtledove Approach

If one wanted to create an alternative history for the universe of Atlas Shrugged, one could start with the 4-way election of 1948. In this alternative history, Henry Wallace won the race, defeating Truman, Dewey and Thurmond, establishing a Labor government on the British model in America. The warning voices of Martin Dies, John Bricker, Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon were stilled.

Wallace wanted no cold war with the Soviets, and with the quick withdrawal of American forces from Europe, Germany was reunified under a communist People’s State government. The Soviet Union, now the People’s State of Russia, never geared up for war, settling instead for passive mediocrity. Britain never rejected Clement Atlee, and with the abolition of the monarchy and the establishment of a written constitution on the German model, the People’s State of England replaced the United Kingdom. In France, De Gaulle never came to power, and the Fourth Republic morphed into the People’s State of France.

In the Western Hemisphere, figures similar to Fidel Castro established the People’s State of Mexico and other communist countries in Central and South America.

America did not go all the way to People’s State status, however, although intellectuals worked hard toward that end. Instead, America became a gray, downtrodden country accepting an atmosphere of sad decay, much like England today. Americans accepted that things were hopeless and that nothing could be done. Feelings replaced facts. The very nature of reality was questioned.

It took only a decade of economic stasis, misguided politics and cultural pollution to create the hell described by Rand.

Some Thoughts on the Movie

A scriptwriter would have a hard time shrinking the story to fill a two or three hour time slot even if all the long speeches were eliminated. A miniseries for television would have served the book better.

This effort would be a production designer’s dream. I would point to John Vallone, who handled production design for Walter Hill’s 1984 classic, “Streets of Fire”. Vallone created a fascinating mix of Fifties and Eighties that had no parallel in real time. Something in the same vein would make the movie memorable, rather than setting it in the present or a future that looks like the present.

Let’s Get Started

I will build a ping list for our FReeper Book Club, so sign in on this thread. I’ll use the keyword “freeperbookclub” to mark these threads as they are posted.

Welcome to our first effort. Prepare to read and discuss.


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To: Publius

Just started reading it for the first time. Please add me. Great idea.


41 posted on 01/15/2009 10:58:30 AM PST by w4women
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To: Carlucci

Hint, mark and skip the long winded soliloquies the first pass. Read the storyline, then go back and pick them up later when you have a bout of insomnia.


42 posted on 01/15/2009 10:58:38 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: bk1000

Are you in?


43 posted on 01/15/2009 10:59:34 AM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peopleÂ’s money.)
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To: Publius

I’m reading it again for the third time. It is downright prophetic and covers all the issues that are occurring today; labor unions, government bailout of failing business, even banks loaning on “feelings” and “social progress” instead of financial gain. And, of course, the banks fail due to their bad loans. It’s long, and boring at times, but well worth the read. Each time I’ve read it I found a little bit more that correlates with what is happening in our country.


44 posted on 01/15/2009 10:59:36 AM PST by suthener
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To: AmericanGirlRising
There is a book out there somewhere called The Makers & The Takers... anyone ever read that?
45 posted on 01/15/2009 10:59:43 AM PST by GeronL (A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood)
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To: Publius

I would like to be added to the ping list.

I read the book in my teens...and plan to buy it and read it again now.

I may not be able to contribute much discussion, but I am looking forward to reading the posts of you and the others.

Thank you for starting this thread.

I also like your picks for future “reads”.


46 posted on 01/15/2009 11:00:46 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Publius

Heck she has sex scenes in her novels? Well. Had I known this I would have picked her up much earlier—LOL.


47 posted on 01/15/2009 11:01:10 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: AmericanGirlRising

I haven’t finished Liberal Fascism yet (I read it during my lunch hour and when I have time in the evening). I am also reading Robert Gellatley’s comapartive study of Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler.


48 posted on 01/15/2009 11:01:18 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: suthener

Yes. Been meaning to reread myself for sometime now. Maybe now is the time.


49 posted on 01/15/2009 11:01:49 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Publius

In, please!


50 posted on 01/15/2009 11:01:49 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: shove_it
The bully spent so much time drinking and whoring with his Mafia wannabe buddies that he never bothered to study. During semifinal and final exams, he developed a way to cheat. He would tap me on the shoulder for the question, for example, 3 taps on my left shoulder and 4 taps on my right shoulder meant Question #34. I would reach behind and tap him on the knee once for A, twice for B, etc.

During my sophomore finals, I got tired of this and fed him an egregiously wrong answer. He punched me in the back. I then fed him another wrong answer, but one that might have been correct. He accepted it.

By feeding him wrong answers through the entire series of finals, I flunked him out and never heard from him again.

Beware Nerd Power!

51 posted on 01/15/2009 11:04:22 AM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peopleÂ’s money.)
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To: GeronL
someone should be establishing a Galts Gulch ....

I hear there is one in the Smokies.)

52 posted on 01/15/2009 11:05:31 AM PST by BARLF
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To: Publius

Outstanding! Sign me up!
:0)


53 posted on 01/15/2009 11:06:31 AM PST by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: Publius

Please add me to the ping list.

Re-read Atlas Shrugged starting the day after the election.


54 posted on 01/15/2009 11:06:48 AM PST by LouD
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To: bk1000

Are you in?


55 posted on 01/15/2009 11:06:57 AM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peopleÂ’s money.)
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To: GeronL

Are you in?


56 posted on 01/15/2009 11:08:10 AM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peopleÂ’s money.)
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To: MrB
read Hayek’s “Road to Serfdom”

Thanks for the tip. It's in my A.com cart.

57 posted on 01/15/2009 11:08:34 AM PST by AmericanGirlRising (Buying carbon credits will not get me into Heaven. I am second - http://iamsecond.com/#/home/)
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To: Tanniker Smith

I just got the audiobook of this a few weeks back, and will be listening to it on my way to work nights.

Thank you for the ping.


58 posted on 01/15/2009 11:09:06 AM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: RaceBannon

Are you in?


59 posted on 01/15/2009 11:09:17 AM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peopleÂ’s money.)
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To: GeronL
Is this the one you're talking about?

http://www.amazon.com/Makers-Takers-conservatives-generously-materialistic/dp/038551350X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232046551&sr=8-1

60 posted on 01/15/2009 11:10:01 AM PST by AmericanGirlRising (Buying carbon credits will not get me into Heaven. I am second - http://iamsecond.com/#/home/)
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