Skip to comments.Our world may be a giant hologram
Posted on 01/18/2009 4:47:55 PM PST by Crimson Elephant
DRIVING through the countryside south of Hanover, it would be easy to miss the GEO600 experiment. From the outside, it doesn't look much: in the corner of a field stands an assortment of boxy temporary buildings, from which two long trenches emerge, at a right angle to each other, covered with corrugated iron. Underneath the metal sheets, however, lies a detector that stretches for 600 metres.
For the past seven years, this German set-up has been looking for gravitational waves - ripples in space-time thrown off by super-dense astronomical objects such as neutron stars and black holes. GEO600 has not detected any gravitational waves so far, but it might inadvertently have made the most important discovery in physics for half a century.
(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...
“Out here on the perimeter” ping.
Oddly enough, when I’m hung over I don’t feel like a hologram...
It’s called “The Matrix”
Biblical creationists can’t possibly compete with atheists/agnostics when it comes to believing in absurd things with blind faith.
I enjoy gravitational theory, I really do. I also look for lost money where the most light is.
So who or what is running the hologram generator?
The Universe is hard for most people to comprehend. Heck Obama voters may not even know we are standing on a planet that goes round a nuclear furnace. Or the output of the nuclear furnace may not be, imagine that, a constant.
I find it curious that a science publication will give time to this puffery but not to debunking the AGW hoax. For instance, publishing the different laws of physics, thermodynamics and chemistry that need be violated if the AGW hoax is true. Strange wouldn’t you say.
Me, the Universe is what it is. And we may not know what that is.
Can I quit dieting?
“Biblical creationists cant possibly compete with atheists/agnostics when it comes to believing in absurd things with blind faith.”
Again, another Freeper has hit the nail on the head!
So you are behind the curtain, expose yourself.
The last time I did that, I spent the night in the Drunk Tank ;)
So do you use the term "puffery" to describe things you don't understand?
No, I think puffery is stuff that fills magazine pages. As opposed to real science, it’s mostly imagination.
I don’t pretend to understand the Universe as hologram.
I have been following this for a while and this has garnered considerable attention lately (even InstaPundit linked to it)
There are two ways to look at this. One is that our physical Universe is as it seems it is. I consider this to be the equivalent of Newtonian Physics
The second is that we PERCEIVE the Universe a certain way (and it is perfectly fine to do so) but the actual laws of the Universe, the state of the Universe and existence of the Universe is a lot more complicated that a “casual” observer would perceive. This is the equivalent (in a metaphor) to Einstienian Physics
For those of us that believe in God, this does not (IMHO) preclude God. We all know that God has mysteries that us humans cannot comprehend. Why can this not be one of them.
I dunno, this actually fits with GOD creating the universe very well theoretically speaking.
So who (or what) is programming this hologram? I need to send a request for a 6-figure a year career and a smokin’ 40-something redhead as my main squeeze.
This is based on extensive theoretical work by a variety of physicists and preliminary but compelling evidence from an incredibly sensitive, expensive, and elaborate scientific experiment.
Or did you not bother to read the article?
I agree. I think that, conceptually at least, this actually fits with a God Creator idea very well....if not better.
It even allows for the concepts of spirits and souls reaching another level of existence...at least in broad terms.
At any rate, it is fascinating as a brain exercise.
Sounds hokey to me.
40-somethin’ redhead, here. Hot (used to be), but after 2 kids.....not so much. Married......well, yeah. LOL! Ahhhhhhhh, well. ;)
Wow, do we think alike! Except I could substitute a Brunette or blond for the redhead if I absolutely had to!
It also gives an entirely new perspective on the line, “For now, we see through a glass, darkly.”
So is the AGW hoax ... And surly they didn't spend the 10s of billions these AGW hoaxers have wasted.
I read enough to know what puffery is. It's free country right now, believe what you want, when the proof arrives, I will look at that. I don't discount the possibility, I just say prove it.
I saw a UFO once ... And I have my own hypothesis, which I can't prove, about UFOs.
Did you know that Einstein refused to believe in the notion of the expanding universe?
I agree with you in your point, but I love this kind of stuff. I think it's great that God allows us to find out more about the universe, and it all points to Him. It just makes me realize how *little* we understand, and how great God is. (And to think He became one of us!)
This article fascinated me because I instantly thought of Plato's Forms. Which also reminded me (a little) of Paul's saying "Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known".
(From Wikipedia -- I know, not the best reference, but the most handy):
"A Form is aspatial (outside the world) and atemporal (outside time). Atemporal means that it does not exist within any time period. It did not start, there is no duration in time, and it will not end. It is neither eternal in the sense of existing forever or mortal, of limited duration. It exists outside time altogether. Forms are aspatial in that they have no spatial dimensions, and thus no orientation in space, nor do they even (like the point) have a location. They are non-physical, but they are not in the mind. Forms are extra-mental.
A Form is an objective "blueprint" of perfection. The Forms are perfect themselves because they are unchanging. For example, say we have a triangle drawn on a blackboard. A triangle is a polygon with 3 sides. The triangle as it is on the blackboard is far from perfect. However, it is only the intelligibility of the Form "triangle" that allows us to know the drawing on the chalkboard is a triangle, and the Form "triangle" is perfect and unchanging. It is exactly the same whenever anyone chooses to consider it; however, the time is that of the observer and not of the triangle.
The pure land
The Forms exist in a rarefied sector of the universe.
But the true earth is pure (katharan) and situated in the pure heaven (en katharōi ouranōi) ... and it is the heaven which is commonly spoken by us as the ether (aithera) ... for if any man could arrive at the extreme limit ... he would acknowledge that this other world was the place of the true heaven (ho alethōs ouranos) and the true light (to alethinon phōs) and the true earth (hē hōs alēthōs gē)."
“I find it curious that a science publication will give time to this puffery but not to debunking the AGW hoax”
Scientists mostly live off grant money. Grant money is awarded based on the most current, trendy, hopes and fears.
I wonder if it looks anything like a yellow submarine.
I just think that GEO600 picked up the noise of the janitor running the vacuum cleaner....
However, and there is just one however, having worked the grant industry for some time, the science types will only whore for the hoax as long as their fellow scientists go along. I believe we have reached now critical mass, and the hoax is being openly laughed at. All a scientist has is his reputation, and once significant number of fellow scientists are scornful of the lack of real science in the hoax, it will fail. Regardless how much money is offered up as payoffs.
That's why the sites on the network that are not funded by grants are so effective.
LOL! Perhaps we are all just Hard Light?
The Universe is the hologram on God’s credit card.
the universe we see is the three-dimensional representation of the four-dimensional meta-universal museum of all the species that have ever existed in the meta-universe
Please don’t use your own titles...
“Our world may be a giant hologram”
...might be of some interest.
Terrific book: The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot. Worth the read.
Smeging Hell! Holly ... is that true?
Has anyone contacted albore about this for additional scientific support?
If the universe is a hologram why do blind people not know that nothing else is there?
“So who or what is running the hologram generator?”
God, of course.
The holographic universe theory seems very good to me.
Fascinating...as Spock would say.
They’re not talking about a literal hologram but about everything we experience as three dimensions in the middle of the universe actually being the way we perceive two dimensional effects that really occur only on the outer bubble of the expanding universe. Interesting theory that could also explain God’s place in and impact on the universe if one is inclined to look at things that way.
>>Can I quit dieting?
maybe your hologram is just out of whack and you are really buff
I'm reminded of that saying by Feynman, that those who think quantum mechanics makes sense don't really understand it (or something like that).