Posted on 01/29/2009 7:20:43 AM PST by pillut48
Look at a chart of the S&P 500.
June 2008 - Obama gets the nomination and we start down.
October 2008 - when McCain’s polls numbers are awful BIG down.
Nov 2-4 2008 - a little rally because McCain closed in the polls.
Nov 6 after the election down more.
The market collapsed because the fear Obama is a marxist. People with any money or businesses have ZERO confidence in Obama.
There was a large measure of that, yes.
But examining the history of these things over the last many years on Free Republic, I'm beginning to believe that an Obama or his like was inevitable.
The combination of the illegal donations flowing in the back door to the Obama campaign, and the BILLIONS of dollars in free advertising from the Obama-worshipping media was unstoppable. I know that you're a media watcher also, and I know that I've NEVER seen anything like what went down in the last two months of the election.
On the bright? side, I also think that the September meltdown "got some help", and the "helpers" didn't really understand the full consequences of what they were doing.
The only way we're going to be able to take back the Republic is by denying the liberal Fascists any sort of aid and comfort in their attempts to get the "easy-money consumer economy" back on track.
They thought they could have this little hiccup, scare everybody, and then go back to the good ol' housing bubble, the good ol' credit card bubble, and all the other bubbles.
Us old-fashioned idiots knew all along that they were spending beyond their means, and wondered what wrong with OURSELVES that we couldn't get with the easy-money program.
Well, right now, this is the ONLY time they're going to be vulnerable. If they get their program back on track, you might as well sign your property, paycheck, children and grandchildren over to them. So, it's time to fight.
He won...let them (the dems) run this country into the ground ALONE and BY THEMSELVES and we will be the voice of opposition. What will happen is they will be like Carter all over again. What goes around comes around. Hopefully in four years...we can sweep the whole bunch out and then govern from our principles and NOT ABANDON THEM under scrutiny or fear of being called names.
THEN...hopefully...someone with some stones...will stand up as POTUS and say to the minority leader Nancy P...Hey Nancy...remember what you and BHO said 4 years ago? Well guess what...I won...sit down and shut up.
I doubt it seriously though...'cause we are the stupid party and we...for some reason...remind me of the picked on little kid who wants to be friends with the class bully.
Exactly.
It’ll be interesting to see if the media totally ignores his falling approval ratings. And when people continue to be laid off in the coming months and prices/taxes continue to go up, it will. There is no Hopenchange, America, and 52% of you proved once again that the snake oil salesman is alive and well.
My guess is Obamaphoria will have worn off by June among 60% of the twits that voted for him, when they can no longer ignore the fact that the Emperor has no clothes.
I think you actually do a good job highlighting the essential difference between conservatives on one hand and many contemporary republicans, including RINO's, Compassionate Conservatives, NeoCons, and the reach-across-the-asile kind of pretend republicans on the other hand.
Conservatives generally place principle over winning at any cost, whereas many of today's republicans place winning at any cost before principle.
If your goal is to implement policies consistent with conservative principles nothing is gained if you have to run a liberal as a republican to win.
Yes, we all know the argument that you must be in the game, you must win no matter the cost, or you cannot hope to see your principles transformed into policy.
Te sad truth is that when you win with a liberal gussied up as a RINO or other non-conservative they ignore conservatives until they need their votes again. We just had an eight year lesson in that as we watched a republican president reach across the island to Ted Kennedy more than he did to conservatives.
All conservatives are not at heart rabid republican party loyalists, but most do generally vote republican as the lesser of two evils. But, if there is a viable, more conservative alternative candidate that is where the conservative vote would go.
But republican party loyalists vote for the party's candidates - even the really horrible ones, because they want their party in power.
That is a significant difference and explains why republican party loyalists get so upset with conservatives who do not always blindly support republicans.
Look at the last election - the party faithful would have voted for McCain no matter what, but he would probably received 10 million fewer votes if he had not brought Sarah Palin on board to attract conservatives disgusted with the republican party.
“Look at the last election - the party faithful would have voted for McCain no matter what, but he would probably received 10 million fewer votes if he had not brought Sarah Palin on board to attract conservatives disgusted with the republican party”
EXACTLY!
Count me as one of those who only came on for McCain after he picked Palin. Otherwise I was voting for Bob Barr and the libertarians.
If we want a candidate like a Fred Thompson, or a Duncan Hunter conservative, we have to start getting the money together now for that inevitable battle over who the GOP National committee selects, and who the people want.
And we need to get movements going to change the primary rules in the early states requiring party registration. We have to eliminate the cross over pollution that obviously targets the real conservatives.
We don’t have to work for the GOP National committee, nor send them money. But we sure can send them a lot of free advice.
McCain was my absolute last choice as a nominee. But I donated to his campaign and dragged myself to the polls to vote for him. Why? Because I could see what this Marzist charlatan would do. MY principles tell me to protect the country first of all, and I do not see that having a President Obama is going to do that.
Hate to break the news to you but the FBI was well aware of the fraud taking hold in the mortgage and other financial industries but had no resources or real support to do much about it. Why? Something called 9-11 happened and the focus was turned to preventing terrorism instead of domestic crime. A few high profile convictions for fraud years ago might have saved us a lot of headaches.
If Bush had said to the Dems, “I won” when they went to him for more spending or other liberal BS I would say, damn right he did. The minority party that lost its ability to play due to its record and its blessing by the voters simply has to know their place. I think the Dems acted like bitches for the time that the Repubs ruled the roost but conduct aside, elections have consequences and one of them is that the other party calls the shots when you lose.
Ah yes, the media. Perhaps the loss of rabbit-ear TV will hurt the lame-stream. There is an estimated 4 million sets that will go to static. The print media is taking a thrashing except for the right leaning press. Ratings of cable news favors FOX that presents both sides. Remarks by the nazis that talk radio is a blight and pornographic, only brings more attention to it and attracts more listeners. The Internet with its good and bad at least allows information to flow and flow rapidly. We were screwed by the credit card election fraud of millions of small donors that gave to the zero man campaign (micro-Soros), but Free Republic is here and others. Internet broadcasts of Rush and others cannot be blocked by today's laws and technology. At least in my circles, more and more people are voicing their opinions, where there has been only silence, that the government is the problem and will never be the solution.
The "media" resources and influence are waining and their paint brushes can only whitewash just so much at a time. This will be especially true when people really start hurting due to the socialist programs that are being thrust upon us. How long will "yes we can" play?
And the fact that I am here to reply shows that, no matter how bad it is, we survive. I'd rather have four years of an Obama who I know is against everything I stand for than the same from a McCain who only pretends to be for what I stand for until he gets my vote, then turns into an Obama anyway. I've put up with 12 years of betrayal by the people who were supposed to be on my side, at least now I get to have the guy with the knife look me in the eye as he sticks it in.
Housing markets started declining in late 2005 then went into crash mode in 2006. Financial houses started having problems in 2007. Stock marker peaked in November of 2007 and lost 40% of more of their value BEFORE Obama won the election. Oh, we had that commodity bubble that developed in 2008 as a result of Bernanke’s bubble blowing activities as well.
Sorry but this mess started on Bush’s watch. His failures led to the election of Obama who now wants to screw us over even more.
“Until the Republicans voted in unison against the faux stimulus package, I would agree completely.”
That was a terrible blow to our country and us.
Now we have Zer0, a rat controlled congress, Supremes, who are more afraid of riots than enforcing the constitution, and the MSM that will support Zer0, Nancy and Harry even if they destroy our country.
“Remember Monty Python’s knight whose arms, etc, were cut off? How can the Republicans fight when the Democraps don’t need their votes at all?”
We have lost elections until we are irrelevant.
Wait until Zer0 floods us with Executive Orders that can’t be challenged because of our numbers in Congress and with a Supreme Court more interested in preventing riots instead of insuring that our constitution is not destroyed.
Good thoughts! Keep us posted as to how to win this battle for our country when we don’t control Congress, the Outhouse and the MSM.
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