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Posted on 01/29/2009 1:57:24 PM PST by SvenMagnussen
Obama/Biden respond to Hollister Complaint with Motion to Dismiss
Hollister asserts in his petition Soetoro submitted an electronic copy of his Certification of Live Birth to be viewed publicly online and notes the Hawaii Department of Health issues a Certification of Live Birth to parents of children born in foreign countries and to children not born in a hospital.
Obama/Biden responded to the complaint on January 26, 2009 with a motion to dismiss on grounds Plaintiff's allegations are false and baseless.
See Obama's response at http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/9-1.pdf
This isn’t going anywhere.
“motion to dismiss on grounds Plaintiff’s allegations are false and baseless”
uh, right. so where’s the certificate?
All Barry has to do is show a REAL Birth Certificate. What is so hard about that?
Hey, at least they responded...
Wonder why Obama just doesn’t show the American people his real long form BC? I think we know why!
What is he trying to hide?
motion to dismiss is the usual response.
How can they argue this point without producing the one and only document that would prove it?
Inquiring minds want to know...
He met with the Justices of the Supreme Court the other day, and the pic I saw of it was all smilin’, laughin’, jokin’ around.
He’s got them in his hip pocket.
0bama is very likely NOT a natural born US Citizen, based on the law in effect at the time of his birth. There has been much written on the matter, and so far all suits have run into procedural issues of one sort or another.
I am encouraged to see that the Anointed One has responded, at least. There may yet be hope that the truth will prevail.
The Dimbulbs learned from the Dan Rather fiasco that you have to take your time to construct a really good forgery, MS Word won’t cut it.
All that Dan Ratherbiased had to do was produce a hand signed, hand typed National Guard memo. instead he had a photocopy of such a creation.
A few months ago somebody here suggested that maybe Stanley wasn’t the mother, maybe it was Stanley’s mother, the woman who recently died.
At the time I dismissed the comment as absurd. Since that time I’ve tried to imagine what could be on the original certificate that could be that embarrassing - as Obama claims. There’s nothing else that I could think of.
Does he even have a legal claim to the name Obama? His father was a bigamist. meaning their marriage was a fraud.
That’s odd, I was posting a response to #7, not #8.
According to the footnote (1) on the second page of the motion, "President Obama has publicly produced...." blah blah blah "factcheck.org". I'm wondering... is this the first time that there is a direct connection (no middle-men or cut-outs) between Obama (at least his counsel) and that document on factcheck? I really don't know. I guess he's "all-in" on a document many don't buy.
It will take time; but eventually it will come out that Mr. Soetoro is a fake.
I can think of at least 4 he doesn’t have. You’re seeing “smiles” because cameras were there and the conservative justices are, if nothing else, gracious.
Wanna see how they really feel - next hear at Zero’s State of the Union Show - keep your eye on the justices in the front row. The justices usually do not applaud during the SOTU Show - but watch Scalia’s face - when Clinton gave his SOTU, it was fixed in an almost permanent scowel - as if Scalia couldn’t stand sitting that close to him.
So now will the judge ask Obama and company to prove that allegations are false and baseless as part of the discovery phase?
“Theres nothing else that I could think of.”
Others have postulated that perhaps Obama Sr. wasn’t his father. One possible sperm donor is Frank, his “Mentor”.
Yes - a counterfeit.
All he needs is 5 of them.
The only thing I’ve seen that MIGHT have led credence to 0 having been born in Hawaii was a birth announcement by his parents in a small town newspaper in Hawaii. Someone commented that they would hardly have placed that announcement so that their son could someday become president of the U.S.
True! BUT I wonder how many people who gave birth to a child in some hell hole such as Kenya moved to Hawaii and CLAIMED that their child was born there so that he could claim American citizenship. Maybe O’s trying to pretend he’s an anchor baby.
T SCOTUS said no cameras no press. He brought his own photographer, posed the pictures and released them to the press. He's all smiles leaning on the back of the CJ's chair with the appearance that all is well....
THINK. He just did the opposite of what the SCOTUS had laid down as rules and then spit in their collective faces....Looks at their body language: crossed arms, no smiles or strained smiles.....He may have just opened himself to a sum of their WA!
What if there were a movement to refuse birth certificate verification ourselves, for whatever situations may demand it, based on the non-compliance of the president, himself...
It’s possible that Frank is listed as his father. I don’t think most of his supporters would care and it certainly wouldn’t affect his citizenship. Folks in Kenya would be upset though.
I’ve found it odd that Obama was so detached from his mother. Also, apparently she didn’t even know how to change a diaper a few weeks after he was born. That is very odd.
Agree. Kerry also had trouble showing his entire Military Record. These guys are amazing.
Good lord...his puppet masters have had 6 years to manufacture one....lol.
Of course, they have also had time to have policies ready to go..yet everytime Obama is asked a question, he says..’We will be evaluating that in the coming weeks’..blahblahblah. I saw him on TV a bit ago and he finally got a deep and probative question from the media!
NBC: ‘Who do you want to win the Superbowl?’
It took him 5 minutes to answer it..kept talking about all the support he had been given by both teams(it’s all about him...lol). He finally came down on the Steelers side.
We are so screwed!
Even if he was born in the U.S., the original BC may contain embarrassing info (e.g., someone other than B. Hussein Obama Senior is listed as father, or possibly "unknown" listed as father). Pure speculation, but he encourages it by continuing to hide the original.
All Barry has to do is show a REAL Birth Certificate. What is so hard about that?”
It shows he was born in Kenya, and after spending all the imllions of dollars getting elected, and having all the people mash the Washington Mall while crying while he is coronated, the ONE cannot admit the truth!!!
Not necessarily. Regardless of where 0bama was born, it’s quite likely that granny placed a birth announcement in the Honolulu paper to inform Stanley’s family and friends. To put a more current context to it, being a transplanted Californian, many of my fellow easterners place birth announcements in their hometown paper back east to let all of their friends know of the new addidtion to the family.
What is he trying to hide?”
His real birthplace: Mombasa, Kenya.
Just like the next elections are already in the bag for commies.
And has been pointed out previously, what Zero produced was not a birth certificate, but a “certification of live birth,” which, under the law active in 1961, was issued by the State of Hawaii to children of citizens who had been born on foreign soil. Do I think the obtaining of a Certification of Live Birth ominous? No — originally, on it’s face, I’m sure Stanley knew her marriage had no legal basis and she wanted to make sure Obama had no U.S. citizenship problems later in life, and the Certification of Live Birth would be acceptable for obtaining other forms of U.S. Citizen I.D. Unfortunately for Zero, when he decided he now wanted to be President, since he is a supposed Constitutional “scholar” and when he saw that John McCain was being pressed for his birth certificate by a media anxious to discredit his eligibility, Zero released the COLB, thinking that would satisfy the media when they came asking. Imagine his surprise when the media DIDN’T come asking him as they had McCain. Gets FactCheck to authenticate and thinks the problem solved. Unfortunately, Zero didn’t count on a non-sheeple segment of the population that said “WHOA! WAAAAIT a minute!” and began to point our errors and inconsistencies in the Zero document.
And despite my being called a paranoid numnut by my progressive friends, they have yet to explain to me why this man is spending millions on lawyers in an effort to prevent the American public from viewing what has got to be the most innocuous personal identification paper you possess. One went so far as to say - “who CARES what the Constitution says! It’s a stupid rule anyway.” My guess is she probably runs red lights when no one’s looking.
I thought the same thing about the photograph, especially Obama leaning on the back of the CJ’s chair.
That’s Obama’s favorite trick, touching someone on the shoulder, as he did to President Bush at the White House, and leaning on the CJ’s chair. Totally inappropriate and a power play on O’s part.
I read somewhere recently that Stanley Ann was 3 months pregnant when she an Obama Sr married (if they did). That could mean that she got pregnant when she was in Cuba with the group of “lefties” as the comments about her trip there were that she was very promiscuous.
The birth father might be someone other than the “legal” father in this case. Maybe that’s what BHO found on the birth certificate he discovered. If he did.
My bet is that it lists his race as Caucasian because his skin was not dark toned.
And what an outcry that would be . . . all those ‘blacks’ he’s representing . . . to find out he’s not even black! I imagine that’s enough of a reason for the Black Community to start dismantling a few large cities.
The only thing Ive seen that MIGHT have led credence to 0 having been born in Hawaii was a birth announcement by his parents in a small town newspaper in Hawaii. Someone commented that they would hardly have placed that announcement so that their son could someday become president of the U.S”
In prior posts on earlier threads, a poster who lives in Hawaii did some digging, and the address that the “birth announcement” claimed either didn’t exist or Stanley Ann never lived there.
There was serious phony information, according to this person.
Um... isn't that what he is trying to get THEM prove? And he wants the judge to do it for them?
Ive found it odd that Obama was so detached from his mother. Also, apparently she didnt even know how to change a diaper a few weeks after he was born. That is very odd.”
No wonder NObama is so angry:
He has a permanent case of A$$ rash from not getting fresh diapers!
good point- how does the JUDGE know it is false and baseless? just take their word for it?
Samuel Alito was not at that meeting. Alito was the asst then U.S. Attorney for NJ. He has experience in prosecuting criminals and organized crime.
This is one of the first responses they have made in a case that I have seen. I think the military plaintiffs should be a concern for them.
Also someone posted a message here about Obama requiring the military starting in July to make their oath to the office of the president and not the Constitution. The message was locked by Jim??
Dr. Orly Taitz is planning a military case with at least 50 plaintiffs. She needs to get about 100,000 or more so SCOTUS or Obama can tell the U.S. military they have no standing.
Yeah just go get killed on the battlefield but you have no protection under The Constitution. We are not serfs.
I still think SCOTUS will do something but if not - send up military plaintiff cases on a weekly basis.
Please, hoosiermama, tell me what “WA” means.
I think that’s the more likely scenario, but who knows!
Neighbors to the listed address have lived in their house since before his reported birth. They said that his grandparents have never lived at that address.
What does that mean?
It’s true that if Frank were his father, that would not disqualify him, but it is something he would want to hide, because it would embarrass him. He is not the kind who can handle embarrassment or ridicule.
Regarding the detachment from his mother; others have noted that she had no interest in being a mother. Giving birth to a black child was much more of a political statement on her part, than it was simply an opportunity to be a Mother.