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Obama/Biden Respond to Hollister Complaint
Sven Magnussen | January 29, 2009 | Sven Magnussen

Posted on 01/29/2009 1:57:24 PM PST by SvenMagnussen

Obama/Biden respond to Hollister Complaint with Motion to Dismiss


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barackobama; berg; bho2009; bho44; biden; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; hollister; ineligible; lawsuit; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; vpbiden
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Gregory S. Hollister, USAF Colonel (Retired), filed a complaint through his attorney Philip J. Berg for Interpleader, Declaratory and Injunctive Relief on Dec. 29, 2008 as result of his concern Barry Soetoro is not constitutionally qualified pursuant to Article II, Subsection 1, Clause 5 of the US Constitution to hold the Office of President of the United States.

Hollister asserts in his petition Soetoro submitted an electronic copy of his Certification of Live Birth to be viewed publicly online and notes the Hawaii Department of Health issues a Certification of Live Birth to parents of children born in foreign countries and to children not born in a hospital.

Obama/Biden responded to the complaint on January 26, 2009 with a motion to dismiss on grounds Plaintiff's allegations are false and baseless.

See Obama's response at http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/9-1.pdf

1 posted on 01/29/2009 1:57:25 PM PST by SvenMagnussen
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To: SvenMagnussen

This isn’t going anywhere.


2 posted on 01/29/2009 1:59:24 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: SvenMagnussen

“motion to dismiss on grounds Plaintiff’s allegations are false and baseless”

uh, right. so where’s the certificate?


3 posted on 01/29/2009 1:59:24 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: SvenMagnussen

All Barry has to do is show a REAL Birth Certificate. What is so hard about that?


4 posted on 01/29/2009 1:59:44 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: SvenMagnussen

Hey, at least they responded...


5 posted on 01/29/2009 2:00:10 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SvenMagnussen; STARWISE

Wonder why Obama just doesn’t show the American people his real long form BC? I think we know why!


6 posted on 01/29/2009 2:00:28 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: SvenMagnussen

What is he trying to hide?


7 posted on 01/29/2009 2:01:09 PM PST by Constitution Day (Big Brotha Is Watching You)
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To: Izzy Dunne

motion to dismiss is the usual response.


8 posted on 01/29/2009 2:01:15 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (this is disney world and obama is mickey mouse.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

ping


9 posted on 01/29/2009 2:02:42 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
“motion to dismiss on grounds Plaintiff’s allegations are false and baseless”

How can they argue this point without producing the one and only document that would prove it?

Inquiring minds want to know...

10 posted on 01/29/2009 2:04:10 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

He met with the Justices of the Supreme Court the other day, and the pic I saw of it was all smilin’, laughin’, jokin’ around.

He’s got them in his hip pocket.


11 posted on 01/29/2009 2:04:34 PM PST by brewcrew
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To: SvenMagnussen

0bama is very likely NOT a natural born US Citizen, based on the law in effect at the time of his birth. There has been much written on the matter, and so far all suits have run into procedural issues of one sort or another.
I am encouraged to see that the Anointed One has responded, at least. There may yet be hope that the truth will prevail.


12 posted on 01/29/2009 2:05:20 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: penelopesire

The Dimbulbs learned from the Dan Rather fiasco that you have to take your time to construct a really good forgery, MS Word won’t cut it.


13 posted on 01/29/2009 2:12:15 PM PST by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: mortal19440
All Barry has to do is show a REAL Birth Certificate. What is so hard about that?

All that Dan Ratherbiased had to do was produce a hand signed, hand typed National Guard memo. instead he had a photocopy of such a creation.

14 posted on 01/29/2009 2:12:30 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal immigration)
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To: the invisib1e hand

A few months ago somebody here suggested that maybe Stanley wasn’t the mother, maybe it was Stanley’s mother, the woman who recently died.

At the time I dismissed the comment as absurd. Since that time I’ve tried to imagine what could be on the original certificate that could be that embarrassing - as Obama claims. There’s nothing else that I could think of.


15 posted on 01/29/2009 2:12:40 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: PubliusMM

Does he even have a legal claim to the name Obama? His father was a bigamist. meaning their marriage was a fraud.


16 posted on 01/29/2009 2:13:17 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal immigration)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Funny they can't produce a birth certificate but can without a doubt show us evidence that the 16th Amendment was ratified.
17 posted on 01/29/2009 2:14:20 PM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: ladyjane; Constitution Day; The Invisible Hand

That’s odd, I was posting a response to #7, not #8.


18 posted on 01/29/2009 2:14:51 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Izzy Dunne
How can they argue this point without producing the one and only document that would prove it?

According to the footnote (1) on the second page of the motion, "President Obama has publicly produced...." blah blah blah "factcheck.org". I'm wondering... is this the first time that there is a direct connection (no middle-men or cut-outs) between Obama (at least his counsel) and that document on factcheck? I really don't know. I guess he's "all-in" on a document many don't buy.

19 posted on 01/29/2009 2:15:41 PM PST by BrerLion (the alarmists are coming! the alarmists are coming!)
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To: ladtx

It will take time; but eventually it will come out that Mr. Soetoro is a fake.


20 posted on 01/29/2009 2:15:48 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: brewcrew

I can think of at least 4 he doesn’t have. You’re seeing “smiles” because cameras were there and the conservative justices are, if nothing else, gracious.

Wanna see how they really feel - next hear at Zero’s State of the Union Show - keep your eye on the justices in the front row. The justices usually do not applaud during the SOTU Show - but watch Scalia’s face - when Clinton gave his SOTU, it was fixed in an almost permanent scowel - as if Scalia couldn’t stand sitting that close to him.


21 posted on 01/29/2009 2:16:20 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: SvenMagnussen

So now will the judge ask Obama and company to prove that allegations are false and baseless as part of the discovery phase?


22 posted on 01/29/2009 2:16:34 PM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: ladyjane

“There’s nothing else that I could think of.”

Others have postulated that perhaps Obama Sr. wasn’t his father. One possible sperm donor is Frank, his “Mentor”.


23 posted on 01/29/2009 2:17:00 PM PST by ChicagahAl (It's mourning in America. Mourning our dearly departed freedom, liberty, security and wealth.)
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To: freekitty

Yes - a counterfeit.


24 posted on 01/29/2009 2:17:17 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Right Cal Gal

All he needs is 5 of them.


25 posted on 01/29/2009 2:20:19 PM PST by brewcrew
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To: SvenMagnussen

The only thing I’ve seen that MIGHT have led credence to 0 having been born in Hawaii was a birth announcement by his parents in a small town newspaper in Hawaii. Someone commented that they would hardly have placed that announcement so that their son could someday become president of the U.S.

True! BUT I wonder how many people who gave birth to a child in some hell hole such as Kenya moved to Hawaii and CLAIMED that their child was born there so that he could claim American citizenship. Maybe O’s trying to pretend he’s an anchor baby.


26 posted on 01/29/2009 2:22:27 PM PST by kitkat (THE DAY WE LOSE OUR WILL TO FIGHT WILL BE THE DAY WE LOSE OUR FREEDOM.)
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To: brewcrew
He wants you to think: He’s got them in his hip pocket.

T SCOTUS said no cameras no press. He brought his own photographer, posed the pictures and released them to the press. He's all smiles leaning on the back of the CJ's chair with the appearance that all is well....

THINK. He just did the opposite of what the SCOTUS had laid down as rules and then spit in their collective faces....Looks at their body language: crossed arms, no smiles or strained smiles.....He may have just opened himself to a sum of their WA!

27 posted on 01/29/2009 2:22:59 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: SvenMagnussen

What if there were a movement to refuse birth certificate verification ourselves, for whatever situations may demand it, based on the non-compliance of the president, himself...


28 posted on 01/29/2009 2:25:38 PM PST by taraytarah
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To: ChicagahAl

It’s possible that Frank is listed as his father. I don’t think most of his supporters would care and it certainly wouldn’t affect his citizenship. Folks in Kenya would be upset though.

I’ve found it odd that Obama was so detached from his mother. Also, apparently she didn’t even know how to change a diaper a few weeks after he was born. That is very odd.


29 posted on 01/29/2009 2:25:58 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: a fool in paradise

Agree. Kerry also had trouble showing his entire Military Record. These guys are amazing.


30 posted on 01/29/2009 2:26:40 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: ladtx

Good lord...his puppet masters have had 6 years to manufacture one....lol.

Of course, they have also had time to have policies ready to go..yet everytime Obama is asked a question, he says..’We will be evaluating that in the coming weeks’..blahblahblah. I saw him on TV a bit ago and he finally got a deep and probative question from the media!

NBC: ‘Who do you want to win the Superbowl?’

It took him 5 minutes to answer it..kept talking about all the support he had been given by both teams(it’s all about him...lol). He finally came down on the Steelers side.

We are so screwed!


31 posted on 01/29/2009 2:27:13 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Constitution Day
What is he trying to hide?

Even if he was born in the U.S., the original BC may contain embarrassing info (e.g., someone other than B. Hussein Obama Senior is listed as father, or possibly "unknown" listed as father). Pure speculation, but he encourages it by continuing to hide the original.

32 posted on 01/29/2009 2:28:17 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: mortal19440

All Barry has to do is show a REAL Birth Certificate. What is so hard about that?”

It shows he was born in Kenya, and after spending all the imllions of dollars getting elected, and having all the people mash the Washington Mall while crying while he is coronated, the ONE cannot admit the truth!!!


33 posted on 01/29/2009 2:29:09 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: kitkat

Not necessarily. Regardless of where 0bama was born, it’s quite likely that granny placed a birth announcement in the Honolulu paper to inform Stanley’s family and friends. To put a more current context to it, being a transplanted Californian, many of my fellow easterners place birth announcements in their hometown paper back east to let all of their friends know of the new addidtion to the family.


34 posted on 01/29/2009 2:29:38 PM PST by TommyTrojan
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To: Constitution Day

What is he trying to hide?”

His real birthplace: Mombasa, Kenya.


35 posted on 01/29/2009 2:29:42 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: mgstarr

Just like the next elections are already in the bag for commies.


36 posted on 01/29/2009 2:30:41 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: BrerLion

And has been pointed out previously, what Zero produced was not a birth certificate, but a “certification of live birth,” which, under the law active in 1961, was issued by the State of Hawaii to children of citizens who had been born on foreign soil. Do I think the obtaining of a Certification of Live Birth ominous? No — originally, on it’s face, I’m sure Stanley knew her marriage had no legal basis and she wanted to make sure Obama had no U.S. citizenship problems later in life, and the Certification of Live Birth would be acceptable for obtaining other forms of U.S. Citizen I.D. Unfortunately for Zero, when he decided he now wanted to be President, since he is a supposed Constitutional “scholar” and when he saw that John McCain was being pressed for his birth certificate by a media anxious to discredit his eligibility, Zero released the COLB, thinking that would satisfy the media when they came asking. Imagine his surprise when the media DIDN’T come asking him as they had McCain. Gets FactCheck to authenticate and thinks the problem solved. Unfortunately, Zero didn’t count on a non-sheeple segment of the population that said “WHOA! WAAAAIT a minute!” and began to point our errors and inconsistencies in the Zero document.

And despite my being called a paranoid numnut by my progressive friends, they have yet to explain to me why this man is spending millions on lawyers in an effort to prevent the American public from viewing what has got to be the most innocuous personal identification paper you possess. One went so far as to say - “who CARES what the Constitution says! It’s a stupid rule anyway.” My guess is she probably runs red lights when no one’s looking.


37 posted on 01/29/2009 2:31:39 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: hoosiermama

I thought the same thing about the photograph, especially Obama leaning on the back of the CJ’s chair.

That’s Obama’s favorite trick, touching someone on the shoulder, as he did to President Bush at the White House, and leaning on the CJ’s chair. Totally inappropriate and a power play on O’s part.


38 posted on 01/29/2009 2:32:28 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: SvenMagnussen

I read somewhere recently that Stanley Ann was 3 months pregnant when she an Obama Sr married (if they did). That could mean that she got pregnant when she was in Cuba with the group of “lefties” as the comments about her trip there were that she was very promiscuous.

The birth father might be someone other than the “legal” father in this case. Maybe that’s what BHO found on the birth certificate he discovered. If he did.

My bet is that it lists his race as Caucasian because his skin was not dark toned.

And what an outcry that would be . . . all those ‘blacks’ he’s representing . . . to find out he’s not even black! I imagine that’s enough of a reason for the Black Community to start dismantling a few large cities.


39 posted on 01/29/2009 2:32:30 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated ("Beware the greedy hand of government, thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry.")
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To: kitkat

The only thing I’ve seen that MIGHT have led credence to 0 having been born in Hawaii was a birth announcement by his parents in a small town newspaper in Hawaii. Someone commented that they would hardly have placed that announcement so that their son could someday become president of the U.S”

In prior posts on earlier threads, a poster who lives in Hawaii did some digging, and the address that the “birth announcement” claimed either didn’t exist or Stanley Ann never lived there.

There was serious phony information, according to this person.


40 posted on 01/29/2009 2:32:38 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: SvenMagnussen
"[...]with a motion to dismiss on grounds Plaintiff's allegations are false and baseless"

Um... isn't that what he is trying to get THEM prove? And he wants the judge to do it for them?

41 posted on 01/29/2009 2:34:02 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: ladyjane

I’ve found it odd that Obama was so detached from his mother. Also, apparently she didn’t even know how to change a diaper a few weeks after he was born. That is very odd.”

No wonder NObama is so angry:
He has a permanent case of A$$ rash from not getting fresh diapers!


42 posted on 01/29/2009 2:34:18 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Izzy Dunne

good point- how does the JUDGE know it is false and baseless? just take their word for it?


43 posted on 01/29/2009 2:34:50 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: brewcrew

Samuel Alito was not at that meeting. Alito was the asst then U.S. Attorney for NJ. He has experience in prosecuting criminals and organized crime.

This is one of the first responses they have made in a case that I have seen. I think the military plaintiffs should be a concern for them.

Also someone posted a message here about Obama requiring the military starting in July to make their oath to the office of the president and not the Constitution. The message was locked by Jim??

Dr. Orly Taitz is planning a military case with at least 50 plaintiffs. She needs to get about 100,000 or more so SCOTUS or Obama can tell the U.S. military they have no standing.

Yeah just go get killed on the battlefield but you have no protection under The Constitution. We are not serfs.

I still think SCOTUS will do something but if not - send up military plaintiff cases on a weekly basis.


44 posted on 01/29/2009 2:35:29 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: hoosiermama

Please, hoosiermama, tell me what “WA” means.


45 posted on 01/29/2009 2:36:07 PM PST by kitkat (THE DAY WE LOSE OUR WILL TO FIGHT WILL BE THE DAY WE LOSE OUR FREEDOM.)
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To: rfp1234

I think that’s the more likely scenario, but who knows!


46 posted on 01/29/2009 2:38:32 PM PST by Constitution Day (Big Brotha Is Watching You)
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To: kitkat
birth announcement by his parents in a small town newspaper in Hawaii.

Neighbors to the listed address have lived in their house since before his reported birth. They said that his grandparents have never lived at that address.

What does that mean?

47 posted on 01/29/2009 2:39:50 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: ladyjane

It’s true that if Frank were his father, that would not disqualify him, but it is something he would want to hide, because it would embarrass him. He is not the kind who can handle embarrassment or ridicule.

Regarding the detachment from his mother; others have noted that she had no interest in being a mother. Giving birth to a black child was much more of a political statement on her part, than it was simply an opportunity to be a Mother.


48 posted on 01/29/2009 2:40:30 PM PST by ChicagahAl (It's mourning in America. Mourning our dearly departed freedom, liberty, security and wealth.)
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To: kitkat

umm...whoop a$$


49 posted on 01/29/2009 2:41:02 PM PST by JohnnyP
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To: kitkat

Whoop A$$


50 posted on 01/29/2009 2:41:33 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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