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Charles Darwin, Abolitionist
The New York Times ^ | January 29, 2009 | Christopher Benfey

Posted on 02/01/2009 2:48:48 PM PST by EveningStar

...Two arresting new books, timed to co­incide with Darwin’s 200th birthday, make the case that his epochal achievement in Victorian England can best be under­stood in relation to events — involving neither tortoises nor finches — on the other side of the Atlantic. Both books confront the touchy subject of Darwin and race head on; both conclude that Darwin, despite the pernicious spread of “social Darwinism” (the notion, popularized by Herbert Spencer, that human society progresses through the “survival of the fittest”), was no racist...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abolitionist; atheism; atheist; bookreview; charlesdarwin; creationism; darwin; darwinism; evolution; history; racerelations; races; racism; slavery
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1 posted on 02/01/2009 2:48:49 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
there's a lot of this stuff out there recently. they're trying to hide the fact that Darwin was a racist and that his theory was largely motivated by that. this "abolitionist" stuff is just trying to cover over the real issues.

Hitler used the German word for evolution (Entwicklung) over and over again in his book. In fact, it is not unreasonable to suppose that the very title itself of Hitler's book ("My Struggle"), was influenced by Darwin's subtitle, "Struggle for Existence," and by the German advocate of evolution, Ernst Haeckel, who published a book, in 1905, entitled, Der Kampf um den Entwicklungs-Gedanken ("The Struggle over Evolutionary Thinking").
http://www.crministriesphilly.com/ascentofracism

Jesus said we should judge a tree by it's FRUIT. And the fruit of "evolution" has been genocide and slaughter.
2 posted on 02/01/2009 3:00:45 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Sin and slaughter existed prior to the theory of evolution.


3 posted on 02/01/2009 3:03:41 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

“slaughter existed prior to the theory of evolution”

Yeah, and lying thieving corrupt men existed before Ted Kennedy. Does that mean we should just accept it?


4 posted on 02/01/2009 3:06:07 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: EveningStar
Christian blood libel against science again, I see.

When pro-slavery types were called upon to justify their position, they always went to the Bible. Why is that?

Could it be that the Bible explicitly allows slavery? See Ephesians 6.

5 posted on 02/01/2009 3:06:50 PM PST by Salman
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Jesus said we should judge a tree by it's FRUIT. And the fruit of "evolution" has been genocide and slaughter.

Unfortunately it still pales into insignificance against the fruit of organised religion, though... there's been over 500 years of genocide and slaughter between Moslems and Jews, Christians and Jews, Catholics and Protestants, Moslems and Christians, Moslems and Moslems, and conflicts continue to this day.

6 posted on 02/01/2009 3:08:31 PM PST by Don Stadt
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

I surely don’t have answers, but it seems to me that “genocide and slaughter” have been going on forever within the religious ranks. More death and destruction in the name of religion I cannot imagine.


7 posted on 02/01/2009 3:10:46 PM PST by battletank
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To: EveningStar

The NYT gets Herbert Spencer wrong by the way. The common understanding of Spencer as author of social darwinism is quite wrong.


8 posted on 02/01/2009 3:10:54 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Learn the difference between cause and effect.


9 posted on 02/01/2009 3:11:21 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Don Stadt

To be fair, Buddhists, Hindus, animists and a variety of other faiths have all been party to mass murder. Jews, Muslims and Christians are just the ones we’re most familiar with in the West.


10 posted on 02/01/2009 3:13:38 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Salman

To answer both questions: idiots and no it doesn’t.


11 posted on 02/01/2009 3:19:56 PM PST by svcw
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To: battletank
Communism, dictatorships, socialism, abortion..........Men are (can be) evil it has nothing to with religion.
12 posted on 02/01/2009 3:22:12 PM PST by svcw
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But did they kill because of their religion, or because of their religion?
Hitler is often promlugated as an atheist who killed in the name of secularism, but he didn’t. He never killed anyone because of their religion, ‘only’ for their race, politics and/or personal opposition to him and his regime. He specifically stated in ‘Mein Kampf’ that his hatred of Jews was not based on their religion, but on their race....


13 posted on 02/01/2009 3:22:42 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: svcw

Well I would beg to differ there. There has been unending genocide and slaughter. And the basis most often is religion.


14 posted on 02/01/2009 3:31:08 PM PST by battletank
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To: Salman

The Bible does not expressly prohibit slavery. In the light of eternity, slavery was a very secondary issue. However, it was primarily Christians that caused its abolition.


15 posted on 02/01/2009 3:32:20 PM PST by MBB1984
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
But did they kill because of their religion, or because of their religion?

A difference without a distinction.

16 posted on 02/01/2009 3:50:59 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: MBB1984
Christian abolitionists were good and decent people who used their own human compassion and reason to realize that slavery was wrong, and they called it "Christian love".

Why for all those centuries did no Christian realize this?

Apostle Paul (Ephesians 6:9) tells Christian slaveholders to be good masters. He does not say slavery is wrong.

17 posted on 02/01/2009 4:02:11 PM PST by Salman
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To: battletank

It is because evil men use religion as an excuse but it is amazing that you can not see communism, socialism, dictatorships, abortion as also used to slaughter human kind......all evil men.


18 posted on 02/01/2009 4:13:36 PM PST by svcw
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To: EveningStar

On what philosophical basis would biological evolutionary theory contradict the practice of slavery?


19 posted on 02/01/2009 4:24:00 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: EveningStar
A New York Times writer of Darwin should be taken as seriously as Obama on economics.

Weigh in, almighty coyoteman. Owooooo!
20 posted on 02/01/2009 4:51:18 PM PST by Bars4Bill
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