Posted on 02/01/2009 10:09:54 PM PST by Steelfish
Illegal immigrants are a factor in the budget gap math George Skelton, Capitol Journal February 1, 2009
From Sacramento -- Based on my e-mail, a lot of folks think the solution to California's state budget deficit is to round up all the illegal immigrants and truck them down to Mexico.
Wrong. Even if it were logistically possible and the deportees didn't just climb off the truck and hitch another ride back up north, their absence from the state wouldn't come close to saving enough tax dollars to balance a budget that has a $42-billion hole projected over the next 17 months.
Painful cuts in education, healthcare and social service programs still would be needed. Sharp tax increases would be required.
That said, let's be honest: Illegal immigration does cost California taxpayers a substantial wad, undeniably into the billions.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
As big as agriculture is in California, you would think they would have a grasp on the concept of “reaping and sowing”, huh?
LOL
Yes, it would save $30 billion in related costs, but it’s not the full $42 billion, so let’s just no try.
If you scrapped the ridiculous unions and waste of local govenrnments, it would be fixed, combinining the DOC and DRE would save $2 billion alone.
There is no hope in California, we are packing up and leaving, keep the keys Citibank!
Getting rid of illegals would be a good first step...but yes, CAL needs to cut in alot of other areas too
FINALLY!!! Under the heading of "let's be honest" he finally admits THE TRUTH!!!
“The Obama administration and Congress need to finally pass an immigration reform act that allows for an agriculture work program and a route to citizenship.”
continue to reward illegal behavior.
let them become citizens, the all of sudden it doesn’t cost the govt. anything for “illegals” because there aren’t any more services that “illegals” are getting.
Since January,2008 more than 1,300 people have been killed in execution-style hits or gunned down in fire fights, which often rage for hours in broad daylight and turn residential neighbourhoods into war zones. If the trend continues, 2008 will top last year's toll of 2,500 deaths in drug-related killings.You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.
More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says The liberal LA Times is now reporting that Mexico's drug wars are now north of the borders--but soto voce. Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.
But is it true?
Yes, according Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa.When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.
Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.
Wanted for Murder in New York City.
Chicago wanted for Murder
Philadelphia wanted for murder
San Francisco wanted for Murder
New Orleans wanted for Murder
Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC Alas, the Washington DC pictures have recently been taken down.
FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals
There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.
Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.
Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.
Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs. One woman in San Francisco who had her family killed by an illegal is even demanding the city to drop its sanctuary city status. Illegals themselves have become the targets of kidnappers Mexican style in Arizona where drug money from south of the border is often parked.
Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.
To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.
That said, the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts. DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. Here is more info from Judicial Watch.
However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens. The Center For Immigration Studies has provided a detailed account of the illegal alien gang problem
Oh there's one other cost of illegals that has gone generally unnoticed. Calling the Old Media: Five Million Illegals Have Illegal Mortgages in U.S.A.!
MALKIN: Illegal immigrant factor
Once again its helpful to provide some maps and stats: Look at the map where those who owe more than the house is worth. Notice any similarities to the unemployment picture and concentrations of illegals
Sadly Illegal Immigrants To Get Next Bailout
Over the past days on the Calif. in debt threads, I have been posting this same information re the cost of illegals
to the state.
Living here in San Diego, you see it first hand.
Still nothing in the papers (what's left of 'em) nor the cookie networks, nor FOX, etc....to hammer this fact into people's minds. Any legal immigrant not on the dole should be smart enough to figure out hisher very livelihood is threatened with costs associated to open borders and the associated goobermint sucking blood from his/her wallet.
lol
Off subject, but I’m listening to a discussion about dam removal. Guess who gets to pay for that? The customers of Pacific corp who get power in the area. 2 billion they say. Insanity reins.
ping
If Pelosi is still making her fortune off vinyards...I’ve long thought it would be a hoot to infiltrate her operation and find out how much money she’s making off the backs of illegal aliens & if she’s harboring/housing them... or if all her workers have official documents, are being paid minimum wage, and appropriate taxes being withdrawn. I’ll bet she thinks she above it all...would be great to watch her squirm. Of course, I would mind seeing her come down off her perch in one fell swoop.
Not exactly. A district court declared parts "unconstitutional." Dem newly elected governor Davis arranged a deal with the courts and it was F-you, voters. The recall of Davis was in part due to his despicable arrogance.
[Prop 187 supporter] Wilson was demonized by Democrats
with a lot of help from the likes of state visitors Jack Kemp, William Bennett, Jeb Bush who blamed support for 187 for hurting the Party.
B.S. Voters approved Prop 187 overwhelmingly. Wilson came from behind to win the race for governor the same year, 1994.
.. anyway it's a useless point to argue cutbacks for anyone but U.S. citizens, the federal government would never allow anything else. Mexico City has made that clear to Sachwarzenegger and the legislature.
Most likely she employs sub contactors to do her agricultural work.... who do the actual hiring and paying illegal alien worker. So Nancy gets plausible deniability
This is true- Another lawsuit filed by an out-of-state citizen argues that granting in-state tuition rates is unconstitutional and violates the Privileges & Immunities Clause of Art IV. section 2. We’ll see how this ends up.
I don’t live there, so I don’t know. But I would be wary of any program that comes out now as a disguised “path to citizenship bill”.
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