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Boy, 12, who brought gun to school wanted to scare bullies: prosecutor
National Post ^ | 2009-02-06 | Rob Roberts

Posted on 02/07/2009 4:53:46 AM PST by Clive

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The article goes on to say that the boy was charged with weapons offences and was released to his parents on $1,000 bail.
1 posted on 02/07/2009 4:53:46 AM PST by Clive
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2 posted on 02/07/2009 4:54:17 AM PST by Clive
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To: Clive

Too bad the barrel was welded shut.


3 posted on 02/07/2009 4:57:32 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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The kids in these cases should go after the principal first, then the vice principal and so on down. The bullies should get theirs only if there are enough bullets left and the police have not yet arrived.


4 posted on 02/07/2009 5:01:08 AM PST by tvdog12345
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To: Clive
It's sad how far we've fallen. My father required his students to bring their firearms to school. How else were they going to compete on days of Rifle Team matches? Other students brought their guns into school (on the bus) to work on in Shop.

Many people today are so ignorant of our country that they can't conceive of such a thing, nor of the much lower crime rates we had. :-(

5 posted on 02/07/2009 5:01:40 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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IMO the kid should not be charged with anything. The school ought to be put through a comprehensive anti-bullying program instead.


6 posted on 02/07/2009 5:03:26 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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IMHO, if the kid had healthy exposure to firearms, rather than the repressed approach of Canada—or modern America, then he’d know better than to treat the firearm so lightly, threatening like that.


7 posted on 02/07/2009 5:05:48 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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The kid should be given very stern discussion on firearms and how not to use them, but yes, the school needs to address root cause.


8 posted on 02/07/2009 5:07:20 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

Man, when I was in High School, late 60s, I was the Brigade armorer for the better part of three years. I had about 30 .22cal rifles, mostly Wichester 52Cs and Ds, with a few Remington 513Ts. At one time we had 40 operable M1 Garands but they were traded for demilled ‘03 Springfields. Any firearms that were brought to school were under my care.

At various times I had SKSs, a BAR, M1 Thompson and M60 NG as well as various sporting firearms.

Ah those were the days

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


9 posted on 02/07/2009 5:14:24 AM PST by alfa6
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Ms. Ferns said the boy was diagnosed as depressed and anxious after being verbally and physically bullied for several years...

I would like to thank our students and staff for the way they handled the situation.


Too bad the magnificent teacher and administrator couldn't have handled the several years of bullying in such an efficient manner. Several years of physical and verbal bullying. What would Freepers do under similar circumstances? When the authorities cannot do it for you, then there comes a time to take care of your own problems. This 'boy' had enough and realized a few things. Too bad he'll now be medicated until he's 40. Just another win for the public education system. They attained their goal of creating another manageable citizen.
10 posted on 02/07/2009 5:15:14 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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How about we ban government schools?


11 posted on 02/07/2009 5:17:28 AM PST by MichiganConservative (You are a slave. The government is your owner and master. For many slaves, it is also their god.)
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> The kid should be given very stern discussion on firearms and how not to use them, but yes, the school needs to address root cause.

I agree. When I was reading this story I thought to myself “what this kid has done is perfectly normal. Maybe not quite appropriate, but normal.”

Wind the clock forward ten years, and move this kid from Ontario to Philadelphia, and from the classroom to a back alley.

Under those cicumstances, if he were being “bullied” or assaulted and he pulled a gun, it would be called “self-defense” and, depending on context, he may even be justified in using it.

He is getting the wrong message by being punished for defending himself. And his bullies are, too: I bet they get off scott-free.

(They’ll grow up to be tomorrow’s CEOs. I am constantly amazed by the number of sociopaths I meet in business... well, maybe I’m not so amazed. This is where they begin, as classroom bullies.)


12 posted on 02/07/2009 5:18:54 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Clive
So the kid waved around a fairly blunt plate of metal and a door stop? What's the deal? Oh yeah, government schools are like Lord of the Flies and no one cares because they don't want to be with their own kids anyway.
13 posted on 02/07/2009 5:19:34 AM PST by MichiganConservative (You are a slave. The government is your owner and master. For many slaves, it is also their god.)
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They’ll grow up to be tomorrow’s CEOs. I am constantly amazed by the number of sociopaths I meet in business... well, maybe I’m not so amazed. This is where they begin, as classroom bullies

Wow.

After my last post, I had gone into the other room and was thinking about just this, laughing a dark laugh in retrospect at some of the truly sick things that I've endured from bosses or have seen in others.

I'm not anti-business, but the commonly held idea of the businessman as the paragon of virtue and the epitome of American ideals is often pretty far off the mark...and I'm not surprised that all of these factors might lead to workplace violence being more common.

14 posted on 02/07/2009 5:26:00 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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re: The barrel had been welded shut.

I hate to be nit picker but that’s no longer a firearm, is it? It’s a club, perhaps a hammer, a movie prop, but it’s not a firearm.

It also said the object-formerly-know-as-a-gun was legally registered. Why would that be necessary.

I am not defending what the kid did. Purely foolish, although in his mind probably a good idea. I am lamenting the death of common sense.


15 posted on 02/07/2009 5:26:51 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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The school is the most guilty party in this situation. There should be the doctrine that disruptive students or bullies do not have a right to an education - you only have the right to an education if you are well-behaved. Instead, there is no discipline and bullies can do whatever they want.

Instead of examining how the schools are run, the response will be to ban adults from owning knives and already-welded and useless guns.

16 posted on 02/07/2009 5:32:14 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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Criminal Code, S. 88:

88. (1) Every person commits an offence who carries or possesses a weapon, an imitation of a weapon, a prohibited device or any ammunition or prohibited ammunition for a purpose dangerous to the public peace or for the purpose of committing an offence.

(2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1)

(a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years; or

(b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 88; 1995, c. 39, s. 139.


17 posted on 02/07/2009 5:33:08 AM PST by Clive
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heaven forbid that there should be a complete investigation into the actions of the juvenile punks who did the bullying, likely the offspring of leading democrat citizens of the community who consider certain segments of the community to be nothing but livestock. (some of the animals are more equal than the other animals, doncha know.)

IMHO


18 posted on 02/07/2009 5:33:15 AM PST by ripley
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To: tvdog12345

You know this us public school, right?

This is what happens when somebody is bullied in a public school: The bully and the victim are both pulled in. The bully is given a 3 day suspension(Which to him, is just a vacation from school). The victim is too. The victim is then told to shut up and not do anything. The cops in the schools don’t really care about anything, neither do the faculty. They just don’t want the school to look bad.

This is yet another reason why you should support vouchers for private schools instead of this idiotic public school system. A company that has to compete for money always will make sure that the business is as safe for its consumers as possible, or else they’ll face being run out of business.


19 posted on 02/07/2009 5:36:06 AM PST by TypeZoNegative (Pro life & Vegan because I respect all life, Republican because our enemies don't respect ours.)
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To: Gondring

> After my last post, I had gone into the other room and was thinking about just this, laughing a dark laugh in retrospect at some of the truly sick things that I’ve endured from bosses or have seen in others.

(grin!) I took a huge step away from the corporate environment a number of years ago, just to give myself a rest from these maladjusted people.

The money is good in the corporate environment, but strangely I don’t miss the corporate sociopaths. At all.


20 posted on 02/07/2009 5:37:41 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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