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'Sanctions' sought in President's Eligibility case
WorldNet Daily ^ | Feb. 13, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/13/2009 2:41:18 AM PST by SvenMagnussen

A high-powered team of Los Angeles attorneys representing President Obama in his effort to keep his birth certificate, college records and passport documents concealed from the public has suggested there should be "monetary sanctions" against a lawyer whose clients have brought a complaint alleging Obama doesn't qualify for the Oval Office under the Constitution's demand for a "natural born" citizen in that post.

The suggestion came in an exchange of e-mails and documents in a case brought by former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others in California. The case originally sought to have the state's electors ordered to withhold their votes for Obama until his eligibility was established. Since his inauguration, it has been amended to seek a future requirement for a vetting process, in addition to the still-sought unveiling of Obama's records.

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WND has reported on multiple legal challenges that have alleged Obama does not meet the "natural born citizen" clause of the U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which reads, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."
1 posted on 02/13/2009 2:41:18 AM PST by SvenMagnussen
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To: SvenMagnussen

ANYTHING but producing a $12.50 vault birth certificate to a court of record ....

WHAT could be so damning on a birth certificate?

MUST be something ... to jump through all these hoops ...

Let’s get the birth certificate thing outta the way, Mr. Obama. If there’s nothing to hide, then folks are going to wonder why you fought so hard to NOT release it.

But if there IS something, well then, I guess we’ll know why you needed a team of lawyers to fight against what most U.S. citizens provide on a regular basis.


2 posted on 02/13/2009 2:46:02 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: SvenMagnussen; LucyT; mojitojoe; Red Steel

Ping.


3 posted on 02/13/2009 2:46:27 AM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: F15Eagle

Don’t you know that a guy with nearly thirty million in surplus campaign funds can’t afford that $12.50 processing fee...?


4 posted on 02/13/2009 2:49:17 AM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Obama wants a Bill of Attainder. What else would one expect from an absolute despot?


5 posted on 02/13/2009 2:49:50 AM PST by agere_contra (So ... where's the birth certificate?)
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To: Cyropaedia

In this economy, everyone is tightening their belts.....

[/sarc]


6 posted on 02/13/2009 2:52:11 AM PST by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero's political stylings since 1-20-09!)
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To: Cyropaedia

There must be something really incredible on that vault birth certificate which would cause quite a stir.

No sane man hires a team of lawyers to go to these lengths to obfuscate the document.

And if it doesn’t match the “official” CoLB that was released, then we’ve got proof of document forgery for the highest office in the land, indeed, the highest office in the political world on Earth.


7 posted on 02/13/2009 2:54:41 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: SvenMagnussen

So, Lord Obama thinks that losers in “frivolous” lawsuits should have to pay the legal costs of the people they sue. Sounds good to me. But, I wonder what the trial lawyer lobby has to say about that? Is there room under the bus for them?


8 posted on 02/13/2009 2:57:35 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: SvenMagnussen
I wonder what the price tag is for maintaining the Empty One's "wall of lawyers" full time to obstruct the public's right to know?

You couid probably buy a nice corporate jet or two for the same cost.
9 posted on 02/13/2009 3:01:00 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: F15Eagle

How easy would it have been to simply avoid all of this...?


10 posted on 02/13/2009 3:02:32 AM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia

The subpoena of President Barack Obama’s college records.

http://www.mayancomm.com/docs/usjf/depobowen.pdf


11 posted on 02/13/2009 3:07:02 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: SvenMagnussen
Didn't the Slick One and his "Wife" check into this.
That is why I don't put much into this birth certificate.
HMMMM maybe it is possible Slick really didn't want his wife to be President.
I pray it is True.
12 posted on 02/13/2009 3:07:23 AM PST by DeaconRed (B.O. Stinks- His so called change stinks-Everything is Broken-We Must Stop PORKULUS)
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To: SvenMagnussen

When a black baby is born, their skin is still white. If Obama’s mom delivered and didn’t declare the father, then the birth certificate may say “Caucasion”. This would blow a hole in the messiah. Just a thought, provided he can prove he is a natural born citizen.


13 posted on 02/13/2009 3:08:08 AM PST by w4women
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To: Red Steel

Does it seem like things are on a collision course...?


14 posted on 02/13/2009 3:12:18 AM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia

The school records and passport might be another issue.

But if there’s nothing to hide on the birth certificate, which was first requested March, 2008 (IIRC), well then, it would seem pretty simple.

He chooses not to...

The only logical conclusion is there’s a very significant reason why.


15 posted on 02/13/2009 3:13:14 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Cyropaedia

I think so. In about 6 months or so things could be at a head. Biden’s prediction of a foreign crisis will hit the Obama administration. The foreign crisis will be Obama, the Kenyan.


16 posted on 02/13/2009 3:19:56 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Interesting link. Was it in the article or did you find it elsewhere?


17 posted on 02/13/2009 3:22:00 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: w4women

I believe this is the reason. I know that in some states the race of a Bi-racial child is listed as the mother’s race. Alabama is one.


18 posted on 02/13/2009 3:22:57 AM PST by Kadric
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To: F15Eagle

Yes, the link to the United States Justice Foundation webpage has it.


19 posted on 02/13/2009 3:24:51 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Thank you.


20 posted on 02/13/2009 3:27:09 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

Logic????In todays AmeriKa???


21 posted on 02/13/2009 3:29:09 AM PST by roofer13
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To: SvenMagnussen

deeper and deeper
more and more interesting

COMRADE 0 WHAT YOU HIDING?


22 posted on 02/13/2009 3:32:17 AM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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To: Kadric

That would seem quite logical and possible.


23 posted on 02/13/2009 3:32:22 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: roofer13

If we can find but one judge who will do his patriotic duty to properly vet this guy.


24 posted on 02/13/2009 3:33:11 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle
Well, money talks!

This guy, Obama, will soon have more money at his disposal than the human mind can possibly comprehend!

25 posted on 02/13/2009 3:40:56 AM PST by sonofagun
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To: Fresh Wind

Yes, wouldn’t this be setting precident?


26 posted on 02/13/2009 3:41:14 AM PST by autumnraine ($335 Million for STD research, still no cure for cancer. Thanks Obama)
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To: Voter#537

I’ve always wondered about the Clinton angle too. Actually, I think this was them behind it all (Berg was a Hillary supporter) and it got stonewalled. I think that’s why she stayed in the primary for so long, she really expected it to come out. But Obama has been successful in blocking every attempt to have his records released.

Now that he is having his lawyers block his college records release, it makes me even MORE convinced he doesn’t qualify because he probably gained some aid for being a foreign citizen, dual citizen at the least. (Which he has admitted).


27 posted on 02/13/2009 3:45:58 AM PST by autumnraine ($335 Million for STD research, still no cure for cancer. Thanks Obama)
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To: Red Steel

The Subpoena does not ask for his “application” just for academic and housing records.


28 posted on 02/13/2009 3:46:49 AM PST by Lynne
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To: SvenMagnussen
Since his inauguration, it has been amended to seek a future requirement for a vetting process, in addition to the still-sought unveiling of Obama's records.

Finally!

29 posted on 02/13/2009 3:57:24 AM PST by Netizen
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To: SvenMagnussen

I find it odd that the “Administration” that’s so eager to put everyone’s health records into a national database would fight so hard to keep his records private. I thought it’s all about “transparency”.


30 posted on 02/13/2009 4:06:00 AM PST by Grumpybutt (Obama = Manchurian Candidate... the question is, who's?)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Any reliable estimates of how much George Soros has spent on all this lawyering to keep Soetoro’s documents sealed?


31 posted on 02/13/2009 4:12:40 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: w4women

I don’t think skin color, father or name are that significant. At least not significant enough to withhold it. The Obamabots nor I would care as long as he is a citizen. IF HE IS NOT A CITIZEN THEN THE SH!T HITS THE FAN!!!


32 posted on 02/13/2009 4:14:57 AM PST by panthermom
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To: SvenMagnussen

What efforts are underway in the states to legislate a requirement for proper documentation? All it would take is a handful of states, and Soetoro would at least be a one-termer. The Slobbering Media couldn’t exactly hide the fact that the incumbent wasn’t on the ballot in some states.


33 posted on 02/13/2009 4:18:46 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: F15Eagle

The Oligarchy consider themselves literally above God . . . whom they see as ‘merely another type of ET’ —if they think He exists, at all.


34 posted on 02/13/2009 4:22:22 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: autumnraine
Now that he is having his lawyers block his college records release, it makes me even MORE convinced he doesn’t qualify because he probably gained some aid for being a foreign citizen, dual citizen at the least. (Which he has admitted).

I'm leaning that way as well.

35 posted on 02/13/2009 4:26:53 AM PST by Netizen
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To: SvenMagnussen

This assclown magic negro is hiding something.
Else he wouldn’t have a problem with folks seeing his records.
Sounds like Kerry and his military records.
Ya know both are lying cheating pieces of crap hiding the truth.


36 posted on 02/13/2009 4:31:01 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Don’t they have to actually prove they HAVE a valid birth certificate before any sanctions could be given?


37 posted on 02/13/2009 4:31:40 AM PST by Mr. K (physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: SvenMagnussen
1) hussein is muzzie
2) Hi daddy was Frank Davis
3) Hi momma was a whore
4) He is not a Natural Born Citizen
5) He is not a US Citizen
I could go on for days.

Prove me wrong!

LLS

38 posted on 02/13/2009 4:32:35 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Reminds me of the TV series, "V".
39 posted on 02/13/2009 4:34:02 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: F15Eagle
There must be something really incredible on that vault birth certificate which would cause quite a stir.

This is about Obama's Occidental College records.

If he registered as Barry Soetoro, Indonesian, he's toast. Remember, Anna filed for divorce from Lolo Soetoro on June 15th, 1980. The divorce was granted on August 28th, 1980, took effect on November 5th, 1980, and closed on November 26,1988.

Obama entered Occidental in September, 1979. Lolo Soetoro was most likely still his legal step-father and Barry was most likely still a citizen of Indonesia.

The key -- did Lolo legally adopt Barry?

We know that only citizens of Indonesia were allowed to attend state-operated schools, and Barry attended Besuki Primary School -- a state school. It explains why Barry initially had to attend the expensive and private, Catholic, Fransiskus Assisi school, where he would have had to pay, until the adoption took effect and he could transfer to the tuition-free, state school.

We know that U.S. Congressman Eni Faleomavaega (D -- American Samoa) was in Jakarta, Indonesia, in July 2007. He had a private meeting with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and Barnabas Suebu, the governor for the Indonesian province of Papau. In the meeting, Faleomavaega asked to travel to Obama's childhood school (Besuki).

According to An American Expat in Southeast Asia's Indonesian sources, "officials" who accompanied Faleomavaega were interested in acquiring any and all documentation or photographs of a young Barry Soetoro for America's "national archives" and they were offering cash, lots of it. In a show of faith, Barack Obama's childhood school would be one of the very first beneficiaries of this outpouring receiving thousands of dollars to upgrade the school and for the purchase of computer equipment, thanks in part to the benevolence of this visiting junket.

The challenge of course was securing Indonesian government records potentially damaging to Barack Obama's candidacy for the U. S. presidency as well as other records pertaining to a young Barry Soetoro and his family. These records wouldn't be so easy to acquire and secure, and for this, the visitors would need the assistance and cooperation of the Indonesian government.

So, with his Indonesian records buried, his Occidental College application and transcript could reveal Obama's status in 1979.

40 posted on 02/13/2009 4:35:16 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural Born" citizen)
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To: SvenMagnussen

This could set a precedent for me becoming a lawyer. I could begin filing sanction suits against the ACLU everytime they go to court any where in the country. It could become a Free Republic cottage industry filing ACLU sanction law suits


41 posted on 02/13/2009 4:35:17 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The original point of America was not to be Europe)
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To: Beckwith
Obama entered Occidental in September, 1979. Lolo Soetoro was most likely still his legal step-father and Barry was most likely still a citizen of Indonesia.

What qualifies one as 'legal step-father'? Obama's mother and Soetoro separated in 1972 and divorced in 1980. By the time he enrolled in Occidental, Obama had been living back in the U.S. for 8 years. So if your definition of step-father is he was married to Obama's mother then I suppose that's true. If you attach some other meaning to it then I'd be curious to know what.

42 posted on 02/13/2009 4:43:08 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: panthermom
I don’t think skin color, father or name are that significant. At least not significant enough to withhold it. The Obamabots nor I would care as long as he is a citizen.

I wonder if it's not the citizenship which is the issue for him, it's the withholding. He talks about being a citizen of the world, it might show he is an American. However, if he doesn't have to show it, why should anyone else? Why should any illegal alien have to show any papers at all. Let them in!

43 posted on 02/13/2009 4:56:40 AM PST by stayathomemom (Cat herder and empty nester)
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To: SvenMagnussen

A high-powered team of Los Angeles attorneys representing President Obama in his effort to keep his birth certificate, college records and passport documents concealed from the public has suggested

Obama promised hope and change. Promised the most ethical administration.
Why then would the man work so hard to hide his history?
If he has nothing to hide this could all go away in a matter of hours. It has drug on for months. Why would a new President want this hanging around his neck?
Must REALLY have something that needs to be hidden....


44 posted on 02/13/2009 5:07:51 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: stayathomemom

It was Democrats that opened this can of worms. It all started when they tried to challenge John McCain’s legitimacy to run because he was born out of the country. John McCain produced his birth certificate. There is still some squabbling going on about that. McCain was born in a private hospital in Panama, not in the military base hospital. However, we do know he was born out of the country because his father was serving in the US Navy.

With Obama’s arrogance, why if he were born in Hawaii just release the information to rub our noses in it. I find it very disheartening that this has gone this far.

Being a mere citizen, I cannot fathom how a Judge can say that a citizen does not have grounds to know if the person running for President of OUR country is legitimate!

Besides that, with the way immigration has skyrocketed in this country, we need to set a precedent and clarify the law, NOW!


45 posted on 02/13/2009 5:27:05 AM PST by panthermom
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To: Mr. K
Don’t they have to actually prove they HAVE a valid birth certificate before any sanctions could be given?

One would think so. But remember, we're in Bizarro World now.
46 posted on 02/13/2009 5:40:11 AM PST by Sig Sauer P220 (There ought to be one day -- just one -- when there is open season on Senators --- Will Rogers)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Re your post 38:

(2) His father was Frank Davis is in conflict with (4) Natural citizen and (5) US Citizen. If Frank was his father, he’s legit for President, even though his pedigree is blood red. But (2) alone wouldn’t disqualify him—it would just be deliciously embarrassing. The “Star” and “National Enquirer” would have to find a new and bigger typeface for their headlines.


47 posted on 02/13/2009 5:42:01 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: SvenMagnussen

This is interesting, Obama wants his legal team paid for something $12.50 can produce!

Let’s say he wins and he produces his birth certificate, and it proves that he is an Amercian citizen only “Barack Hussein Obama” is not his real name. Let say for instance his real name is “Stanley Dunham Soetoro”, or “Barry Toot Soetoro” Are those suing for his records then liable for a other defenses his lawyers may be challenged with as a result of the exposed fraud?

Perhaps this is what they are after, a sort of MAD (mutually assured destruction) shield from which to hide his records behind similar to the threats he made against McCain and Hillary during the campaign.


48 posted on 02/13/2009 5:58:14 AM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Lying caused Nixon to resign.

Zero has already lied, now he is trying to hide it.

49 posted on 02/13/2009 6:16:32 AM PST by TYVets
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Either one would disqualify him... no one would vote for frankies kid... that commie rat bastid!

LLS


50 posted on 02/13/2009 6:18:14 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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