Posted on 02/16/2009 8:35:40 AM PST by rellimpank
THE idea that a preservative once used in vaccines is to blame for rising autism rates has just been authoritatively debunked - again. Indeed, some of the key early "evidence" now stands exposed as fake.
Sadly, none of this will kill this myth - because it was never based on good science.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Aspberger’s syndrome falls far short of the MIT problem (which is ordinarily exacerbated by the use of a broomstick in an unexpected orifice.)
Okay, now I’ve read it twice, thinking I missed something the first time. Are you talking about this?
“But it seems no amount of science or regulation will dispel the suspicions. So around the same time that actress Jenny McCarthy was taking the airwaves to propagate her latest theories on vaccines and autism, newly released figures showed that there were 1,348 confirmed cases of measles in England and Wales last year - and two deaths. That compares with 56 cases in 1998, before Wakefield’s paper spawned a cottage industry in fear.”
You are talking about 56 deaths with no other controls except immunizations. This is part of the problem. You used “bloody hands” to describe people who only want the best for their children. Personally, I couldn’t live with not immunizing my girls, but instead of dismissing them or making them out to be kooks, it would be more advantageous to look at the big picture. I have a friend with a non-verbal eight year old with autism. It’s not fun.
The poster was confusing this with the the STD human papilloma virus vaccine to prevent cervical cancer, brand name Gardasil.
I wish to heaven there WAS an ovarian cancer vaccine. Ovarian cancer killed my poor mom. She would be alive today if there was such a vaccine.
By the way there are probably many cancers caused by human papilloma virus. Some experts suspect that a variety of cancer rates will eventually drop among Gardasil vaccinated girls.
The primary motive for having an abortion is to improve one’s life by killing someone else.
Folks are always doing that.
That same belief shows up in the attempt to blame the preservative in vaccines.
Look past the motive for an abortion and the consequences of the abortion that show up later in your physical and emotional health. THAT is what I am referring to.
New Study Shows Abortion is ‘Best Predictor of Breast Cancer’
WASHINGTON, DC, October 3, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons published a study yesterday entitled, “The Breast Cancer Epidemic.” It showed that, among seven risk factors, abortion is the “best predictor of breast cancer,” and fertility is also a useful predictor.
The study by Patrick Carroll of PAPRI in London showed that countries with higher abortion rates, such as England & Wales, could expect a substantial increase in breast cancer incidence. Where abortion rates are low (i.e., Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic) a smaller increase is expected. Where a decline in abortion has taken place, (i.e., Denmark and Finland) a decline in breast cancer is anticipated.
Carroll used the same mathematical model for a previous forecast of numbers of breast cancers in future years for England & Wales based on cancer data up to 1997 that has proved quite accurate for predicting cancers observed in years 1998 to 2004.
In four countries - England & Wales, Scotland, Finland and Denmark - a social gradient has been discovered (unlike that for other cancers) whereby upper class and upwardly mobile women have more breast cancer than lower class women. This was studied in Finland and Denmark and the influence of known risk factors other than abortion was examined, but the gradient was not explained.
Carroll suggests that the known preference for abortion in this class might explain the phenomenon. Women pursuing higher educations and professional careers often delay marriage and childbearing. Abortions before the birth of a first child are highly carcinogenic.
Carroll used national data from nations believed to have “nearly complete abortion counts.” Therefore, his study is not affected by recall bias.
Karen Malec, president of the Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer commented on the latest findings stating: “It’s time for scientists to admit publicly what they already acknowledge privately among themselves - that abortion raises breast cancer risk - and to stop conducting flawed research to protect the medical establishment from massive medical practice lawsuits.”
See the new study online here:
http://www.jpands.org/vol12no3/carroll.pdf
Exactly...they even push multiple vaccines on preemies.
That is correct. I confused the two.
“The poster was confusing this with the the STD human papilloma virus vaccine to prevent cervical cancer, brand name Gardasil.”
“I wish to heaven there WAS an ovarian cancer vaccine. Ovarian cancer killed my poor mom. She would be alive today if there was such a vaccine.”
(I’m sorry.)
“By the way there are probably many cancers caused by human papilloma virus. Some experts suspect that a variety of cancer rates will eventually drop among Gardasil vaccinated girls.”
(That is questionable.)
Approx. 80% of American women will be infected with one or another type of genital HPV in their lifetimes, usually in their teens and 20's. Protecting against these infections makes perfect sense. Using inflammatory terms like "whores" merely clouds the picture.
>>Then you must have an allergy to egg albumen. Because the scenario you are describing is impossible.<<
Maybe. But I can tell you that I’m not the only person in my area who believes the same.
And let’s not forget the Rotovirus vaccine that was perfectly safe until kids ended up with perforated bowels.
Oddly enough, my son has not been sick very frequently at all... my wife and I decided to wait until he was two, and to spread out the vaccines to no more than 1 per month.
Some will say that this is cook hysteria. However, I have one very solid results that perhaps most don’t.
A friends two children, count them TWO had a very real occurrence and then diagnoses of Autism. This friend isn’t exactly a liberal nut here guys/gals, he was a very conservative and logical person. (Math/Sciences we are both engineers) So... the net of the story is this. The two children sync’d up on Vaccines and both went to get their shot from the same multi-dose vial. These kids were well behaved but were I believe at the time about 15 months old. They cried infrequently, and acted very much like normal children, who laughed and had great emotion. The day AFTER the vaccines they both began holding their heads in pain, it progressed to a rocking, then into a mix of this with some confusion and dizziness. This continued for 3 days until he had enough and took them in to the Doctor. This was a complete 180 from the kids the Doctor treated, and he was very concerned. So off to a specialist... who then diagnosed them as having autism.
I have the personal experience that gives me pause, and I choose to care for my son in a manner and similarity as how I was raised. In my time we had very few Vaccines, so we are essentially doing the same roll-out that both my wife and I had.
Oddly enough there ARE vaccines that have far and above more mercury than a person should have in a year, and why people get lazy and try to save $ and Dr. visits to jam their kids full of vaccines all at once is mind boggling.
I could go on and on here, but everything is not what it seems in my opinion.
>>Approx. 80% of American women will be infected with one or another type of genital HPV in their lifetimes<<
How?
I am thankful that my parents had me fully vaccinated. I have lived in port cities all my life, and never once have I caught any of the dread third-world diseases that ravaged entire populations not long ago.
Anybody who doesn’t vaccinate their kids wants their head examining.
Vaccine is good. Diseases not so good.
Along with most anal and vaginal cancers, as well as many vulvar and head and neck cancers. I highly recommend girls be vaccinated with Gardasil.
LOL. Techno-geniuses are 100% "Aspergers," at least according to the envious psychology majors too stupid to get admitted to MIT!
Hey, I'll bet you mom had you vaccinated. Case closed, according to the anti-vaccine cultists.
Took a few minutes to establish exactly what they were talking about.
You: Approx. 80% of American women will be infected with one or another type of genital HPV in their lifetimes, usually in their teens and 20’s. Protecting against these infections makes perfect sense. Using inflammatory terms like “whores” merely clouds the picture.
Me: LOL 80%!
If your daughter is a whore, by all means load her up with daily shots to stave off the promiscuous disease. Our daughter is not a whore and doesn't need it in her TEENS and TWENTIES.
Using PROPER terminology, a “whore” is what contracts this disease in their teens and twenties. We don't’ raise whore so it is not needed her to protect against promiscuity.
I made a mistake in referring ot ovarian cancer.
Prayers for you ... and hugs.
There are several different types of egg albumin allergy. One of them makes it difficult/impossible to use modern flu vaccines. I haven’t had a flu shot since my first one which made me sicker than anything short of the Spanish Flu.
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