Posted on 02/17/2009 11:36:00 AM PST by dascallie
Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu: Christians are regarded as 'mad' by 7:22PM GMT 17 Feb 2009
Churchgoers are now "counter-cultural" because their values are so opposed to prevailing behaviour, claimed Dr Sentamu.
But he insisted that faith cannot be separated from the world of work, and that staff should not be expected to give up their religious convictions when they walk into the office.
His comments come amid growing concern about the marginalisation of Christianity in public life.
Labour MPs want to sever the historic link between Church and state, which would end the right of bishops to sit in the House of Lords and remove the right of all residents to be married, baptised or buried by a parish priest.
Meanwhile public sector workers now risk being sacked if they talk about religion in the workplace, under "equality and diversity" rules.
New NHS guidelines state that doctors and nurses face harassment charges if they are accused of "preaching" to colleagues or patients, while a draft code of practice for teachers could be used by schools to discipline those who discuss their beliefs with pupils.
Caroline Petrie, a community nurse who is a devout Baptist, was suspended without pay for two months after she offered to pray for an elderly patient.
Jennie Cain remains off work from her job as a primary school receptionist for sending a private email asking for spiritual support from her friends, after her five-year-old daughter was scolded for talking about Hell to another girl.
A Christian registrar lost her job for refusing to take part in civil partnership ceremonies while a relationship counsellor was sacked after he refused to give therapy to homosexual couples. Both have been unsuccessful in their claims for unfair dismissal.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
11Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade men. What we are is plain to God, and I hope it is also plain to your conscience. 12We are not trying to commend ourselves to you again, but are giving you an opportunity to take pride in us, so that you can answer those who take pride in what is seen rather than in what is in the heart. 13If we are out of our mind, it is for the sake of God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you. 14For Christ's love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died. 15And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.
Must be all those times Christian fanatics blew up innocent men women and children the past several years ....
My old boss was British...one time when I went to visit he and I got to talking and I mentioned my faith in Jesus...his response was “I thought you were smarter than that.”
By the way...who else thought Dr. Sentamu was Samuel L. Jackson?
Probably earlier than that. However, it would be interesting to see youth starting to adopt Christianity in order to rebel against the status quo one day.
I would have popped him right in the face, then proceeded immediately to confession.
That hadn’t occured to me. Kids becoming Christians to upset their parents. Something to conjure.
This is a delicate topic with me as I was raised as a protestant, even baptised in a Methodist church. But something is going on here that’s beginning to resemble a groundswell of animosity not toward the Church per se but toward the moral tenets of the Christian faith that has guided this nation and other “Western “ nations for so long apart from actual rules or restrictions on affiliations or designation.
I have come to the point where it is untenable for me to prersonally accept the unscientific conclusion that there exists an all-powerful being that set in motion all there is or will be toward the acceptance that we are in this together only as circumstances brought us to this place in time.
Yet, it is impossible to avoid noticing that there is a terrible effort being made by forces whose numbers seem to grow daily targeting the one true tolerance of non-interference to the point where now only assimilation will serve.
I fear that submission is next and even though I can’t go back to that confident assurance I had as a child in a provident destiny, I fear even more that those who still take great comfort in their lifelong beliefs will have it torn from their bosoms, roots and all.
There’s going to be a lot of bloodletting before this conflict between militaristic hedonism and cautious responsibility ends.
Anything can happen. Imagine Christianity as a counter-culture movement. The world is so upside down right now, anything's possible.
I find the whole business thoroughly credible ...
Are there not hate-speech courts in Canada where Christians and others are called in to explain the “hate” in their beliefs?
“prevailing behavior” = A Clockwork Orange.
And you are convinced that
“That Day” means what?
Already in Canada for pastor preaching against homosexuality.
No. Some of us know in whom we have believed . . .
because we know because we know because we know.
His life within is more than convincing.
If nothing else . . . you are beginning to notice the forces of hell assault authentic Christianity and ally with pseudo-’Christianity.’
They don’t assault any other religion.
There’s a message there.
I think you understood that I was asserting that this growing state of affairs is horrific . . . incredibly horrific.
No doubt an Amish group.
Must have been tricky developing a non-electrical remote detonating fuse. Maybe they used crows or carrier pigeons.
I think it runs on kerosene but I could be wrong .....
It seemed that you found some of it unexpectedly or surprisingly horrific, hence the adjective “incredible”. I don’t find it incredible at all. Any of it. It’s what I expect when the barbarians are within the gates.
LOL.
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