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Shelby discusses stimulus bill, other issues (Questions Obama's Citizenship* (Uh-Oh))
The Cullman Times ^ | February 21, 2009 | Patrick McCreless

Posted on 02/22/2009 12:25:31 PM PST by Cyropaedia

"Another local resident asked Shelby if there was any truth to a rumor that appeared during the presidential campaign concerning Obama’s U.S. citizenship, or lack thereof.

“Well his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate,” Shelby said. “You have to be born in America to be president.”

(Excerpt) Read more at cullmantimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 0bama; 111th; bho2009; citizenship; nut; obama; panderer; shelby; tinfoil
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To: Cyropaedia

Kenyan Prince .........................Where were you born and can you prove it?


21 posted on 02/22/2009 12:41:33 PM PST by gitmogrunt (The stupidity of the American people never ceases to amaze me.)
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To: WheresMyBailout
He’s just pandering to conspiracy theorists here.

Yeesh, lead, follow, or get out of the way

22 posted on 02/22/2009 12:44:32 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: Cyropaedia

Someone needs to write an email to Patrick McCreless that wrote this piece and challenge what he is advancing here:

“According to the Associated Press, state officials in Hawaii checked health department records during the campaign and determined there was no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii.

The nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org examined the original document and said it does have a raised seal and the usual evidence of a genuine document. In addition, Factcheck.org reproduced an announcement of Obama’s birth, including his parents’ address in Honolulu, that was published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961.”

Hawaii NEVER said Obama was born there....how DARE these media jerks play so fast and loose with the truth...this guy goes so far as to editorialize they said there is NO DOUBT Obama was born there. How irresponsible.

What Hawaii actually said:
>>On October 31, 2008, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii Department of Health, released a statement verifying that Barack Obama’s birth certificate was on file in their records. However, despite what you might have heard, she did not verify that he was born in Hawaii. And, she did not verify that the certificate on file in Hawaii matches the “COLB” pictured on Obama’s site and at FactCheck. <<

Additionally the Factcheck image—including the so-called seal is FORGED using 2007 graphic elements.

My Mac won’t bring up the McCreless’ email addy, someone please challenge this dishonesty.

Some reference:
From Hawaii’s official Department of Health, Vital Records webpage:

A. “Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country” (applies to adopted children).

B. A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under HRS 338-5.

C. Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8. A foreign birth presumably would have been recorded by the American consular of the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the Hawaiian birth certificate.

D. Hawaiian law, however, expressly acknowledges that its system is subject to error. See, for example, HRS 338-17.

E. Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3.


23 posted on 02/22/2009 12:45:35 PM PST by dascallie
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To: Kansas58

YES...that’s what I thought...and I agree with you...paternity MIGHT be the issue, however, spending what people have said has been spent (100’s of thousands of dollars) to prevent revelation of paternity seems odd. Paternity these days doesn’t seem THAT big a deal....and could be “storied”...i.e. he could have a story around it that people believe.


24 posted on 02/22/2009 12:45:42 PM PST by goodnesswins (Conservative and fighting for freedom and liberty....whether you like it or not.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Who you be callin’ a acehole? Shelby or Obummer?


25 posted on 02/22/2009 12:46:07 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Cyropaedia

>>>You have to be born in America to be president.

I wonder if he voted for McCain who was porn on Panamanian soil?


26 posted on 02/22/2009 12:46:07 PM PST by nc28205
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To: Cyropaedia

>>>You have to be born in America to be president.

I wonder if he voted for McCain who was born on Panamanian soil?


27 posted on 02/22/2009 12:46:39 PM PST by nc28205
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To: mc5cents; illiac; SamuraiScot

YEAH, I know....that’s why I posted that part...


28 posted on 02/22/2009 12:47:33 PM PST by goodnesswins (Conservative and fighting for freedom and liberty....whether you like it or not.)
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To: nc28205

Forget about where he was born for just a minute.

What about forging a federal document?


29 posted on 02/22/2009 12:48:20 PM PST by dascallie
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To: Las Vegas Ron

The Tokyo Rose brigades never tire.


30 posted on 02/22/2009 12:49:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Plutarch
Obama no longer has to rely on the freelance hacks at Daily KOS. He now has the resources of the Federal Government to do his bidding. I'm sure there are document forgers in the CIA who can whip up a birth certificate for him that would fool even the most expert eye.

I also have no doubt that Freepers would invalidate it within 12 hours of its appearance online.

31 posted on 02/22/2009 12:51:26 PM PST by giotto
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Lol...tain’t Shelby (can I say that here?)


32 posted on 02/22/2009 12:54:02 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: nc28205
I wonder if he voted for McCain who was born on Panamanian soil?

Seems to me that was vetted through Congress, can't say the same for your guy

33 posted on 02/22/2009 12:57:19 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: Jane Austen
He can be removed from office if he was not born here.

By whom? Not sure that can be removed except through impeachment and conviction in the Senate and the dems won't allow that.

34 posted on 02/22/2009 12:58:33 PM PST by plain talk
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To: goodnesswins

Good! I did not know if you’d seen it....thanks!


35 posted on 02/22/2009 1:01:08 PM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Cyropaedia

Shelby? NO! Really? ‘Percy Bysse’ Shelby?


36 posted on 02/22/2009 1:02:09 PM PST by combat_boots ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."Aldous Huxley)
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To: Kansas58

The original birth certificat is being translated from Swahili into English.


37 posted on 02/22/2009 1:03:53 PM PST by 353FMG (Trust in Glock.)
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To: Kansas58
” the “Vault Copy” birth certificate, as well as other discovery items requested, would be an “embarrassment” to Obama.”

Sure they would. Not everyone wants the world to know that they have “Satan” as a father.

38 posted on 02/22/2009 1:08:56 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: nc28205

The way I was told is that McCain was born in Panama but not on Panamanion soil as a US naval base is considered to be US soil.


39 posted on 02/22/2009 1:12:16 PM PST by 353FMG (Trust in Glock.)
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To: goodnesswins
spending what people have said has been spent (100’s of thousands of dollars) to prevent revelation of paternity seems odd.

Not if his father was Franklin Marshall Davis, communist and pedophile.

40 posted on 02/22/2009 1:51:25 PM PST by Salvey
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