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Man Living in Cave Faces Foreclosure
ABC News ^ | February 24, 2009 | SCOTT MAYEROWITZ

Posted on 02/24/2009 2:03:14 PM PST by americanophile

You've heard plenty of stories about foreclosures, but the latest victims of this brutal recession are about to lose their cave.

That's right. For nearly five years, Curt Sleeper and his family have lived in a cave. His mortgage is about to come due and, like millions of other Americans, he can't refinance.

So now, the 17,000-square-foot, subterranean home is being auctioned off on eBay.

Sleeper and his wife Deborah bought the cave outside St. Louis in May 2004 for $160,000. To pay for it, they sold their old home, TV and even the DVD collection. They made a 50 percent down payment and borrowed the other $80,000 from the seller. It was a five-year loan with a single balloon payment at the end.

The Sleepers now have until May 1 to pay off the remaining $83,000 or sell the property. It's not a foreclosure sale yet, but if they can't come up with the money, they risk losing the house.

Besides the initial $80,000 payment, Sleeper said he spent another $150,000 on renovations to the cave and the surrounding 2.8 acres he owns.

The original plan was to refinance. But Sleeper, a self-employed computer consultant, said...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: cave; foreclosure; housing
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To: americanophile

Listening carefully to the story, and reading between the lines just a tad, he HAS NO bank to be pissed off at right now for foreclosing. Rather the people he bought the cave from took a 50% down payment of $80K and agreed to hole the other $80K note for 5 years.

Now comes time for him to refi and no banks will loan him the cash. So the people who owned the cave prior are forcing him to stick to the terms of the note which means: 1. Get financing from a conventional bank 2. Sell 3. Walk away. Looks to me like the previous owners know EXACTLY what they are doing now that they have an improved property heading their way for no money.

Interesting how the ABC bimbette never asked him why the the previous owners won’t modify the current terms of the note.


41 posted on 02/24/2009 2:28:18 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (If the Democrats wish to foist national health care on Americans, give us the same plan Congress has)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Talk about Subterranean Homesick Blues....


42 posted on 02/24/2009 2:31:18 PM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: avacado

Nice digs.


43 posted on 02/24/2009 2:31:50 PM PST by FReepaholic (Diversity = .45 .357 .223 .38 ...)
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To: americanophile

A good example of people living beyond their means. I wonder if Osama will bail him out?


44 posted on 02/24/2009 2:32:02 PM PST by TexasRepublic (I am inconsolate over the death of our country.)
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To: GOP_Lady

It’s called owner financing. It wasn’t a mortgage it was a ballon payment note.


45 posted on 02/24/2009 2:33:26 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
Mortgage default: So easy, a caveman can do it! :D

That's comedy gold.

46 posted on 02/24/2009 2:33:43 PM PST by mountainbunny
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To: Just another Joe

That cave’s nicer than my house... :(


47 posted on 02/24/2009 2:33:54 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Um, sounds like he should have paid the debt first.

That’s what I thought as well.

(During construction, Sleeper, his wife and their two kids lived in tents in the back of the cave and washed dishes and laundry in buckets. Their third child, a son, was born last week in the cave.)

Get the place livable and then concentrate on paying down the debt.

Too many people think that good times (financially) will last for ever. Some people actually have said the business cycle was over, we would never have a down turn again.

HA! They forgot about Democrats!

48 posted on 02/24/2009 2:33:59 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: VRWCmember

Money for nothin’, and the (cave) chicks for free!


49 posted on 02/24/2009 2:34:24 PM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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To: americanophile

Over 45 years ago in junior high math, we were introduced to mortgage concepts. When it came to balloon mortages, as a kid it seemed like a suckers deal. Seems more like it now.


50 posted on 02/24/2009 2:34:25 PM PST by Free_SJersey (Liberty can promote equality- manditory equality will kill liberty. CONSTITUTION FIRST!)
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To: americanophile

I wonder if this guy knows how much money he can save on car insurance by switching to Geico


51 posted on 02/24/2009 2:36:35 PM PST by daku (Obama has experience pouring out of those big ears of his.)
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To: patton
dehumidifiers are your friends...
52 posted on 02/24/2009 2:36:59 PM PST by Dust in the Wind (Just part of the clean up crew)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I am not sure banks would finance such an unconventional dwelling, regardless of his credit/employment/income status.


53 posted on 02/24/2009 2:37:34 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: patton; Jim Robinson

I’m in North Texas so I tend to think about tornadoes and hail.

St. Louis is near the New Madrid fault though, which is overdue ...


54 posted on 02/24/2009 2:39:26 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Dust in the Wind

Might not even need them - STL ain’t that humid.

But, maybe. I dunno.


55 posted on 02/24/2009 2:40:18 PM PST by patton (America is born in Iceland, and dies in California)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Exactly - hate to get zotted in the big one.


56 posted on 02/24/2009 2:40:58 PM PST by patton (America is born in Iceland, and dies in California)
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To: NEMDF

We’re unable to refinance now due to unconventional construction which means that there are no comparables...yet we got a freddie mac or fannie mae (just not sure which right now) loan at construction. We may have been lucky to slip the original loan past them.


57 posted on 02/24/2009 2:41:11 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: NEMDF

If you owe $80k on a $320 property, financing is pretty darn easy.


58 posted on 02/24/2009 2:42:23 PM PST by patton (America is born in Iceland, and dies in California)
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To: patton
The cave/mine is live or wet. That house will be a cool season terrarium with accompanying fungi.
59 posted on 02/24/2009 2:42:52 PM PST by Dust in the Wind (Just part of the clean up crew)
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To: gorush

Do you own the cave, or do you mean another property?


60 posted on 02/24/2009 2:43:35 PM PST by patton (America is born in Iceland, and dies in California)
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