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Obama To Seek Weapons Ban (And violate your 2nd Amendment Right)
ABC News ^ | 2/26/09

Posted on 02/26/2009 6:30:49 AM PST by ArmyBratproud

The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.

"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; bloat; communism; constitution; gunban; stockpile; stockpilesong

1 posted on 02/26/2009 6:30:49 AM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: ArmyBratproud

Obama and his terrorists loving AG are idiots.

The sale of a firearm in the US has no relation to the problems of Mexico! The AK 47 full auto is the weapon of choice down there. And retailer can’t sell those in the US.
They get them from China and other countries.

Mexico is poor...so Americans must have their Constitutional rights violated???

What a bunch of commies.


2 posted on 02/26/2009 6:32:53 AM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: ArmyBratproud
These will not be affected by the ban.

3 posted on 02/26/2009 6:34:23 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: ArmyBratproud
For those of you who follow debate tactics/word games etc:

"Mexican government officials have complained that the availability of sophisticated guns from the United States, have emboldened drug traffickers to fight over access routes into the U.S.

A State Department travel warning issued Feb. 20, 2009, reflected government concerns about the violence.

"Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades," the warning said."

And people complain about subliminal hamburger ads on tv---sigh....

4 posted on 02/26/2009 6:34:42 AM PST by icwhatudo
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To: ArmyBratproud
I thought they'd wait a couple of months until they fixed the economy.

If you think the price of guns and ammo is high now, just wait till this gets on everybody's radar.

5 posted on 02/26/2009 6:34:44 AM PST by rllngrk33 (The RATs and Media are the enemy.)
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To: ArmyBratproud

DUMMIES never learn to not mess with our guns do they?

I am beginning to see a one term President for this one of many reasons.

Just where are the cries from the people to abolish gun rights? You do not hear them unless they’re some left wing nut job nudged by a politic ion to do away with the guns that will keep the great usurper from taking our country without a fight.

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.” —Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 10 October 1787


6 posted on 02/26/2009 6:39:49 AM PST by PROSOUTH ( Deo Vindice "God Will Vindicate")
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To: PROSOUTH

One term ? I bet its less than two years.


7 posted on 02/26/2009 6:44:07 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ArmyBratproud

If this is true, I’m placing an order for two more today.


8 posted on 02/26/2009 6:44:45 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A GUTLESS SOCIALIST LOSER WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: PROSOUTH
Bubba Effect

Check out some of the info...
Glenn Beck did a segment on this.

9 posted on 02/26/2009 6:46:46 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: ArmyBratproud
"...reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.

The statement that they want to "reiinstitute" the ban on "assault weapons" is, itself, a bold faced lie.

What they want is something like H.R. 1022, which is far more draconian than the old "assault weapons" ban. I.E., H.R. 1022 would allow the the A.G. to ban virtually any firearm, on a whim:

`(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.'.

10 posted on 02/26/2009 6:48:43 AM PST by holymoly (Molon labe.)
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To: rllngrk33
I thought they'd wait a couple of months until they fixed the economy.

Exactly. You'd think he's have passed a few more items of his agenda before he hands congress to the Republicans over symbolic gun control legislation that few Democrat voters are even asking for.

11 posted on 02/26/2009 6:49:21 AM PST by Drew68
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To: ArmyBratproud

If you were on the Travis McGee/Jack Black/Archy CWII Ping list, you would have heard about this last night. ;-)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2194266/posts


12 posted on 02/26/2009 6:51:41 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Now, more than ever, we must be vigilant, vigorous and vocal. These LibTards are not going to stop until they are made to stop. They will continue to push their ‘control at any cost’ socialism until they run into the brick wall of freedom loving people who still think the US Constitution is valid and is to be interpreted as the guiding legal document of this grand experiment.

It’s time to take back the country.


13 posted on 02/26/2009 6:58:39 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: ArmyBratproud
2009
14 posted on 02/26/2009 7:01:46 AM PST by odin2008 (EVIL TRIUMPHS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING)
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To: PROSOUTH

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe.”

I was wondering if this was the idea behind all the gun banning brouhaha. Especially if Obabma creates his ‘civilian militia’ that I heard him mention at one time.


15 posted on 02/26/2009 7:06:01 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: DuncanWaring

If I knew or cared who Travis McGee is...


16 posted on 02/26/2009 7:07:10 AM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: ArmyBratproud

Yet one more lie! Zero is making BJ Clinton look like Washington.


17 posted on 02/26/2009 7:07:35 AM PST by mort56
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To: PubliusMM

They are also planning on banning the importation of 7.62 x 30 and several other cartridges. What this means is if you have a basement full of ammo, you don’t need no corrupt stinking bailout money. Go out on the web today and try to find any 7.62X39 and likely you will find that just about everyoone is sold out and “backordered” But hey, not a problem. You can go get some in Mexico.....


18 posted on 02/26/2009 7:07:39 AM PST by libertyhoundusnr
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To: PubliusMM

Call your congressmen and senators.
There are Dems from moderate districts and states...that are very nervous about this. They know it will cost them their seats.

Let them know. Go write letters to papers in their areas.


19 posted on 02/26/2009 7:08:24 AM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: ArmyBratproud
This will coincide with his new call to raise taxes.

Seriously, did people know what they were voting for?

20 posted on 02/26/2009 7:08:56 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: ArmyBratproud

Why is anyone surprised?


21 posted on 02/26/2009 7:13:24 AM PST by RichardW
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To: ArmyBratproud

Your loss.


22 posted on 02/26/2009 7:28:50 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Seriously, did people know what they were voting for?

Chicago socialists are are the worst kind of socialists.

re: Richard Daley, Generalissimo Zero

23 posted on 02/26/2009 7:31:58 AM PST by TYVets
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Obuttcrack is doing his level-best to make every mistake of Carter and Clinton, and add to those.

The 2010's are going to be a stone-cold rout.

24 posted on 02/26/2009 7:32:44 AM PST by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz

Off to pick up another Glock 23 today...never know when something happens to one or the other. Also buying more large capacity mags.

Get them before they become impossible to buy.


25 posted on 02/26/2009 7:41:13 AM PST by Mouton
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To: Lazamataz

Don’t forget the “ACORN effect”. We may never see a legitimate vote again, after they get their billions in funding.


26 posted on 02/26/2009 7:45:08 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: ArmyBratproud
The sale of a firearm in the US has no relation to the problems of Mexico! The AK 47 full auto is the weapon of choice down there. And retailer[s] can’t sell those in the US.

No, those guns don't go down there from US retailers; but they will be finding their way up here if The Kenyan gets his way. Think about it this way: If you're going to get the same jail time over a wannabe assault rifle as you would over the real thing, then why not just get the real thing? If the risk is the same, then it makes sense to buy a real AK47 that's been smuggled in from Mexico over a semi-auto only rifle that merely looks like the AK.

The Kenyan should be careful what he wishes for. He just might get it.

27 posted on 02/26/2009 8:43:06 AM PST by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Posted on Hot Air on the same Topic:

”flow of guns going across the border into Mexico”

Geeze, that has to rate at least a 9 on a scale of 1-10 on the Lame-o-meter.

You know that they were itching to see word a big massacre cross the news wires, failing that at least SOME up-tick in violence due to so-called “assault weapons.”

But come on!!

”help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico,

Here’s a Radical concept !!!! Build a fence ACROSS the Border

The great thing about a fence is that IT WORKS BOTH WAYS!!!!!!

28 posted on 02/26/2009 8:57:26 AM PST by Sarisky (The 0dumbo administration is a nightmare come true for Conservatives and Patriots)
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To: Sarisky

Note how the democrats fight every effort to secure the border, then use the insecure border to justify taking rights away from americans.


29 posted on 02/26/2009 9:44:07 AM PST by altsehastiin
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To: ArmyBratproud; All

“”I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum.” Holder said “

So we are beholden to Mexico now?

Amazingly stupid.....not to mention UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

If you are not a member of the NRA, JOIN TODAY!


30 posted on 02/26/2009 10:08:12 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: rllngrk33; All

And they said that people buying alot of guns and ammo were panicking unnecessarily.

The people are much smarter than DC will ever know.


31 posted on 02/26/2009 10:10:16 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: snowrip

Looks like some lefties are even waking up:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x202652


32 posted on 02/26/2009 10:13:33 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: icwhatudo

We don’t have laws restricting access to grenades.

Where can I get some of those those? /sarcasm


33 posted on 02/26/2009 10:15:24 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Red in Blue PA

Another:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3756439


34 posted on 02/26/2009 10:15:40 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
I must have missed the aisle at Dick's where grenades and full autos are sold. Maybe I should go back, look for Mexicans, and follow them.

How an enumerated right can this easily be offered up a mere 8 months after being reasserted by the Supreme Court because of the "positive effects" doing so might have on a foreign country that cannot control its borders, by the AG that can't control our borders and would rather not try, is beyond reason.

The AG is sworn to uphold the law and protect our constitutional rights. That's the job! If he'd rather not do that then step down already and let someone do it who is capable.

35 posted on 02/26/2009 4:37:48 PM PST by kcar
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To: ArmyBratproud

You should. He’s one of the more notably respectable members of FR. He speaks, pay attention.


36 posted on 02/26/2009 5:44:04 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

You can buy grenades legally. $200 tax, paperwork, and several-week background check for each one.

Somehow I don’t think banning semi-autos in the US will much affect grenade sales in Mexico. The AG is a moron.


37 posted on 02/26/2009 5:47:48 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: ArmyBratproud

Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:45 PM

The Obama administration has its sights set on reinstating the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004.

Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters that the move would help stem the tide of guns that cross into Mexico from the United States. Mexico is currently struggle with a surge of violence linked to drug cartels.

“As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons,” Holder said, according to ABC News. “I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum.”

Holder did not indicate when the administration might act on reinstating the ban.

“It’s something, as I said, that the president talked about during the campaign,” Holder said. “There are obviously a number of things that are — that have been taking up a substantial amount of his time, and so, I’m not sure exactly what the sequencing will be.”

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/assault_weapons_ban/2009/02/26/186189.html


38 posted on 02/26/2009 6:18:21 PM PST by kcvl
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To: ArmyBratproud

bttt


39 posted on 02/26/2009 8:18:46 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: ctdonath2
You can buy grenades legally. $200 tax, paperwork, and several-week background check for each one.

Wrong. You are partially correct in that IF you could find HE, and they were transferable on the registry, you would do the same application for tax paid transfer as other destructive devices (mortars, howizers, etc.)

Problem is that there are only two (2) or three (3) manufacturers of grenades (40mm HE) or hand grenades (M67 frag) in US ..Thiokol, Rock Island Armory, and someone in PA. If someone is dumb enough to keep around Vietnam era (or earlier) grenades, you risk deterioration and self detonation with 40 year old explosives. As much as I like blowing stuff up, I would NEVER even store, play with, inspect, shoot, or be around ANY explosives older than their manufacturer's shelf life, even in perfect storage conditions.

Anyways, these very few corporations that manufacture HE grenades will NOT sell to the public since they are 100% government contract.

I know several Type 10/Class 02 FFL types and they have never seen a transferable HE grenade for either hand or 40mm applications.

If you become a manufacturer for the governement for R&D purposes, you can make your own. If you choose to sell to the Class 02/Class 03 SOT community, you will NEVER get a government contract. Only one (1) insurance company that will insure high explosives manufacture, and they won't even bond you if you had $1mm in cash. Good luck!

40 posted on 04/01/2009 12:41:47 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1

Relax. I was referring to the legality, not availablility. So yes, you can buy grenades legally. Finding a seller is a different problem; some people, suitably connected, have managed to do so.


41 posted on 04/02/2009 6:55:46 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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