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"Martial Law" In House of Representatives
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Posted on 02/27/2009 6:11:53 AM PST by Calpernia

From Congressman Burgess's site:

http://burgess.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=103976

News "Martial Law" In House of Representatives

Washington, Sep 28, 2008 - Under the martial law procedure, long-standing House rules that require at least one day between the unveiling of significant legislation and the House floor vote on that legislation — so that Members can learn what they are being asked to vote on — are swept away. Instead, under “martial law,” the Leadership can file legislation with tens or hundreds of pages of fine print and move immediately to debate and votes on it, before Members of Congress, the media, or the public have an opportunity to understand fully what provisions have been altered or inserted into the legislation behind closed doors. This is the procedure that the Leadership intends to use to muscle through important bills in the next two days.

http://rules-republicans.house.gov/ShortTopics/Read.aspx?id=220

From the Committee on Rules September 27, 2008

BLANKET MARTIAL LAW RULE THROUGH

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH

Motion offered by: McGovern

Summary of Motion:

To report the martial law rule waiving a requirement of Clause 6(a) of Rule XIII with respect to consideration of any resolution reported from the Rules Committee, through the legislative day of September 29, 2008. It does not apply to any specific measure, but rather grants blanket authority.

Agreed to by voice vote


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: america2point0; congress; democratcongress; democrats; dictatorship; fearlessleader; lawandorder; lping; martiallaw; orwelliannightmare; socialistblitzkrieg; tyranny; votenowpaylater
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1 posted on 02/27/2009 6:11:53 AM PST by Calpernia
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To: Krodg; getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL; LucyT; Kevmo; Fred Nerks; bvw; null and void; SE Mom; FARS; ...

Thank you guys for helping me look up the details of this story.


2 posted on 02/27/2009 6:13:05 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

If all else fails vote no.


3 posted on 02/27/2009 6:15:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Calpernia

Can you imagine the screams of “FASCISTS!” coming from Leftists everywhere if the Republicans had ever tried this when they were in control.

I hope the Republicans remember this well, so that the next time they control the Congress, if there ever IS a next time, they will have no scruples about CRUSHING the DemonRATs with the most oppressive rules.

It’s long past time for the gloves to come off.

The only good that can come of this, is that the DemonRAT communists might finally overplay their hand.


4 posted on 02/27/2009 6:16:58 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Calpernia

...the Congress song:
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Pork/


5 posted on 02/27/2009 6:17:58 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Calpernia

How about some commentary on this? This was for a 2-day period in September to get TARP I through, right? Does its significance go beyond that? If so, why?


6 posted on 02/27/2009 6:19:26 AM PST by cookcounty ("We'll post bills on the internet........", --excerpt from the Vast Collection of Obama Lies.)
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To: Calpernia

The republicans THOUGHT they could use the nice nice rules of parlimentary procedure to get something.

We are now paying the price for them being the stupid party.


7 posted on 02/27/2009 6:21:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Westbrook

>Can you imagine the screams of “FASCISTS!” coming from Leftists everywhere if the Republicans had ever tried this when they were in control.

I can imagine them... unfortunately it is only “imagine”.

>I hope the Republicans remember this well, so that the next time they control the Congress, if there ever IS a
>next time, they will have no scruples about CRUSHING the DemonRATs with the most oppressive rules.

Ha! Our Congressional Kings, the Lords of DC, are all corrupt, and [nearly] all traitors.

>It’s long past time for the gloves to come off.

It is, but not of political parties, instead of “We the People”.
The only good that can come of this, is that the DemonRAT communists might finally overplay their hand.


8 posted on 02/27/2009 6:21:11 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Westbrook

There will not ever be a next time for the Republicans! Seriously, there will not be a next time.......


9 posted on 02/27/2009 6:21:20 AM PST by classified
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To: Calpernia

So was this put out there by Democrats? What was the vote on this?


10 posted on 02/27/2009 6:22:01 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: Calpernia

I have one hope concerning Congress. That WHEN the Republicans get back in power, they will abandon their ‘touchy-feely let’s all get along’ mentality with their democrat counterparts, and instead stand on their necks with jackboots the way they are getting treated right now.


11 posted on 02/27/2009 6:22:47 AM PST by highnoon (How come we never hear about Zero's white half?)
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To: Calpernia

The question is, how does something like this get passed in the waning days of Bush?


12 posted on 02/27/2009 6:23:01 AM PST by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Westbrook

Spell it OLIGARCHY. Adolf the Hitler essentially did business the same way by dissenfranchising all governmental checks and balances. Next thing you’ll be castrated too.


13 posted on 02/27/2009 6:23:16 AM PST by Broker ( Pakikisama)
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To: Calpernia

James Inhofe talking about it on a Tulsa radio station.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PovFa9hVtw


14 posted on 02/27/2009 6:23:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Calpernia

I would like to know why it is that the Republicans don’t simply walk out. Leave the building. Do it when you know that the C-SPAN cameras are live.

The Minority Leader needs to make a speech decrying the utter lack of fairness, the tyranny of the majority when 45% or so of the people voted the other way, and then say, “We are not going to stand by and participate in such a system, and thereby legitimize it. We are leaving - you Democrats explain to the American people why it is that for the first time in history 45% of the people have literally no voice.”

Then let the Dems do what they want - it’ll all be on them.


15 posted on 02/27/2009 6:25:29 AM PST by Ancesthntr (Tyrant-wannabee: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Ancesthntr

The own this depression. The people’s 104K’s are on them.


16 posted on 02/27/2009 6:27:30 AM PST by scooby321
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To: Calpernia

It’s past time to do away with the federal gov’t. It should pretty much be abolished except for a few things.


17 posted on 02/27/2009 6:31:50 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: rabscuttle385; LucyT

ping


18 posted on 02/27/2009 6:31:51 AM PST by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use violent force to preserve liberty deserve the tyrants that rule them. SP-0)
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To: cookcounty

There is controversy as to whether we were under martial law. As per what I see, that I posted, we were for 2 days. No one but Congressman Burgess will confirm or deny this happened. But that vote shows it did.

To my understanding, martial law cannot be implemented without announcing it. I can’t find an announcement. I can’t find First Responder sites showing procedures were in place for it. If it happened, was it just done to steal the treasury? Is this where the monies came from for the Stimulus Package? Martial Law does instill power to Government to take control of finances. I don’t know.

What conditions were in place that allowed for Martial Law to be implemented? I don’t remember a terroristic event.


19 posted on 02/27/2009 6:53:25 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: autumnraine

Yes, it is right there in my post. Vote was yea. Introduced by Rep. McGovern of Massachusetts.


20 posted on 02/27/2009 6:56:09 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Lazamataz

I would like that answer too.


21 posted on 02/27/2009 6:56:53 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: cripplecreek

Thank you. Adding that to the other site too.


22 posted on 02/27/2009 7:01:06 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Carry me back

Hopefully that will happen with all the states writing bills for sovereignty.


23 posted on 02/27/2009 7:04:45 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; ...
Thanks, Calpernia and stockpirate.

"Martial Law" In House of Representatives

Check out article and #19.

24 posted on 02/27/2009 7:06:11 AM PST by LucyT
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To: Calpernia

To me the most astounding thing is that it appears to have come down from Paulson, an unelected non representative official.


25 posted on 02/27/2009 7:06:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Calpernia
Congressman Brad Sherman testifies about "Martial Law" arm twisting.
26 posted on 02/27/2009 7:06:52 AM PST by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


27 posted on 02/27/2009 7:09:35 AM PST by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use violent force to preserve liberty deserve the tyrants that rule them. SP-0)
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To: LucyT

Thanks, LucyT...to read later.


28 posted on 02/27/2009 7:10:31 AM PST by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: ex-Texan; Eastbound

ping


29 posted on 02/27/2009 7:11:46 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: LucyT

Thanks...scary, scary times ahead.


30 posted on 02/27/2009 7:13:22 AM PST by IrishPennant ("We're surrounded...That simplifies our problem.")
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To: LucyT

A small sample of National headlines that day (Newsbank)

Bailout Is ‘a Necessary Evil,’ Area Residents Say - Reaction to Government’s Fiscal Response Includes Disgust and Disbelief, Resignation and Relief
Washington Post, The (DC) - September 29, 2008
Author: Donna St. George and Jonathan Mummolo
Edition: F
Section: Metro
Page: B1

Wachovia in Talks On Its Possible Sale
Washington Post, The (DC) - September 29, 2008
Author: Binyamin Appelbaum and Neil Irwin
Edition: F
Section: A Section
Page: A10

A Bailout Is Just a Start
Washington Post, The (DC) - September 29, 2008
Author: Lawrence Summers
Edition: F
Section: Editorial
Page: A19

Belgian Bank Is Rescued
Washington Post, The (DC) - September 29, 2008
Author: Martijn van der Starre and Meera Louis
Edition: F
Section: A Section
Page: A10


31 posted on 02/27/2009 7:16:35 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (Economic Stimulus: Creating jobs, one death at a time.)
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To: Obamageddon

His remarks are 1:23 into the clip


32 posted on 02/27/2009 7:23:34 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (Economic Stimulus: Creating jobs, one death at a time.)
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To: Obamageddon

I watched that twice now. He confirms Martial Law was on the table; but unfortunately doesn’t confirm if it was implemented.

This is making me think it was. The vote shows that too.


33 posted on 02/27/2009 7:26:26 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

I just emailed this story to everyone I know. The first response I got back was “VOTES? I”M READY TO VOTE WITH A BULLET.”


34 posted on 02/27/2009 7:33:22 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A GUTLESS SOCIALIST LOSER WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Calpernia

This must be made public. The public is enraged already. More tinder here.


35 posted on 02/27/2009 7:42:31 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: scooby321

HUH? What?


36 posted on 02/27/2009 7:46:20 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy. FUBO!)
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http://rules-republicans.house.gov/ShortTopics/Read.aspx?ID=234

Martial Law Used AGAIN

PROVIDES THAT IT SHALL BE IN ORDER AT ANY TIME THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE DAY OF FEBRUARY 13, 2009, FOR THE SPEAKER TO ENTERTAIN MOTIONS THAT THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE RULES AND THAT H. RES. 10 IS AMENDED TO CHANGE THE HOUR OF THE DAILY MEETING OF THE HOUSE TO 9:00 A.M. FOR FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS

Motion Offered By

Summary of Motion

Vote Tally

Matsui

To report the resolution providing for the Speaker to entertain motions that the House suspend the rules through the legislative day of February 13, 2009 and to amend H. Res. 10 to change the hour of the daily meeting of the House to 9:00 A.M. for Fridays and Saturdays. 

Agreed to by voice vote*

*Absent: Slaughter, Hastings, Diaz-Balart & Foxx

 

 

H.Res. ___ – Waiving a requirement of clause 6(a) of rule XIII with respect to consideration of certain resolutions reported from the Committee on Rules through the Legislative Day of February 13, 2009 pertaining to the consideration or disposition of any measure relating to H.R. 1, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009

Managers: Slaughter / Dreier

MARTIAL LAW RULE

Motion

Offered by:

Summary of Motion

Vote Tally

Matsui

To report the martial law rule waiving a requirement of Clause 6(a) of Rule XIII with respect to consideration of certain resolutions reported from the Rules Committee, through the legislative day of February 13, 2009 pertaining to the consideration or disposition of any measure relating to H.R. 1, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

Agreed to

7 to 3**

**Absent: Slaughter, Hastings, & Diaz-Balart

For further information, please visitHTTP://RULES-REPUBLICANS.HOUSE.GOV




37 posted on 02/27/2009 7:46:45 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Ancesthntr

>>>I would like to know why it is that the Republicans don’t simply walk out. Leave the building. Do it when you know that the C-SPAN cameras are live.<<<

The Republican “leadership” is in on the scam. Ask them.


38 posted on 02/27/2009 7:48:38 AM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: Westbrook
"It’s long past time for the gloves to come off."

The Democrats took their gloves off years ago. As a matter of fact they've even gone under the ring and pulled out the folding chairs while the Republicans are staggering into the ropes oblivious to the fate that awaits them when they finally clear their heads, rub their eyes and turn around.

39 posted on 02/27/2009 7:54:12 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: LucyT

What The Heck!!!! Why is this the first that any of us are hearing of this. From what I read above it’s not constitutional...any rep with a pair should’ve walked and called the “media” immediately.


40 posted on 02/27/2009 8:06:19 AM PST by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: usmcobra; KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; ...

Ping to thread with emphasis of update at post 37


41 posted on 02/27/2009 8:06:24 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

How can this possibly be ‘Constitutional’?????


42 posted on 02/27/2009 8:06:43 AM PST by Dustbunny (Remember - Amer-ican still ends in - ican.)
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To: FlashBack

Media is covering up, again. Some of the Congressman have been on the radio. Some have been making YouTubes to get it out.

We are now in a dictatorship.


43 posted on 02/27/2009 8:07:38 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Dustbunny

Don’t miss post 37.

Martial Law is being used for dictatorship.


44 posted on 02/27/2009 8:08:28 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

The ‘pubs go out an cry to the cameras that they didn’t have the required time to read this.....and now we find out they voted to allow it to happen behind closed doors! Being it was on a voice vote we can’t prove or disprove who...nice move guys!!!!!!!!!


45 posted on 02/27/2009 8:15:40 AM PST by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: FlashBack

It wasn’t voted on. Martial Law was used.


46 posted on 02/27/2009 8:21:39 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; LucyT; Polarik; SatinDoll; Allegra
This procedural law is likely unconstitutional. We need a suit brought immediately by House Republicans. Nothing less will do.

Publicity of the procedure should be wall to wall, and of the suit in SCOTUS against it.

Such fascists maneuvering of the House and of the Obama White House is horribly destructive of our financial markets.

If anyone with any berries has not moved their portfolios off shore, they are dreaming at this point.

The " Nationalization " of our finance system quietly proceeds apace. And Rush Limbaugh has pointed this out, that the firms leading the way are essentially owned by democrat financiers, who are working hand in hand with Obama, Soros and his running dogs.

Because the crisis of finance had prevented the ability to fund the Obama Utopia, the Obama Plan is to seize and control our finance system by the federal government having ownership and control of it, by using our tax dollars to purchase preferred shares stakes while lowly public investors must rest with common shares, and the ability to direct investment strategy according to political goals and not " Mere Profit Making." which now is called ," GREED" by the Obama Nationalist Fascist Collective. The greed is that of the Democrat fascist Party.

Dem institutions such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have become, a house for every deadbeat, instruments of financial Armageddon spread world wide: " Do as I say or we will self destruct!" A threat I would like to see realized, as it must be some day in either the near or far future.

Many financial institutions having taken TARP money want out. And if you haven't noticed , the feds won't allow them to exit. There will be no exit. Their asses now belong to the feds.

Wells Fargo is one, AIG is another, and in AIGs case, it has resulted in an exodus of its skilled management to other corporations, many located off shore.

The fascist nationalization program is proceeding behind closed doors, under the pretense that the public should not know, they might try to make profits from it!

No wonder the DOW continues to tank, while the MSM is silent , except for our hero Santelli, who has it right, exactly.

The end point will be that an entire generation of baby boomer retirees will be dependent on government, except for those who have moved their investments off shore.And if those folks are not careful, the feds will eventually come after them too, just as they have in the Swiss Bank " secret account" fiasco.

If you move funds offshore, make sure to continue to pay taxes as long as you are a US resident, which in many , many cases, will not last long, as many move out of the USA to follow their off shore funds into retirement elsewhere.It is a choice between freedom and dependence, poverty and richness, health into old age, versus triage of the elderly.

Soon America may awaken to having had enough of hope and change, wealth redistribution, but the MSM prevents that avenue, and will until its too late.

Only when MSM advertising revenue dries up, will they realize their folly. Rupert Murdock is already shaking like a dog sh!tt!ng razor blades, yet refuses to have FOX tell the truth. By then Obama will have Censorship laws in place.

47 posted on 02/27/2009 8:24:29 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: FlashBack

Democrats are excellent liars.


48 posted on 02/27/2009 8:28:15 AM PST by Dustbunny (Remember - Amer-ican still ends in - ican.)
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To: Calpernia
I don’t remember a terroristic event.

THe whole Obama administration is a terrorist event.

49 posted on 02/27/2009 8:38:49 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

bump that


50 posted on 02/27/2009 8:42:09 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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