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7 Major "Missing Links" Since Darwin
National Geographic ^ | March 2009 | Zina Deretsky, National Science Foundation

Posted on 03/01/2009 5:30:40 AM PST by Salman

For the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's birth (February 12, 2009), National Geographic News asked leading scientists for their picks of the most important fossils that show evolution in action ...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: anniversary; answersingenesis; creationism; crevo; darwin; evolution; fossilrecord; icrdotorg; junkscience; oldearthspeculation; piltdownman; religionofatheism; scientists
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To: Salman; chuck_the_tv_out

Projecting much? God doesn’t think like you do, you know.


101 posted on 03/01/2009 12:11:12 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Salman

“vengeful demon who tortures people because their ancestors sought knowledge”

friend, the True God is not like this “allah”. The True God is good and just, not capricious. The Bible says “He is the same yesterday, today, and forever”, this means he can be trusted, like a Good Father, not like a drunken stepfather, who you expect to come home and beat you. Our society is suffering troubles now, because we have wandered from the right path, but I pray people will return to God, in Jesus’ name.

There is a story in the Bible about a man who returned to God. God welcomed him with open arms, even though he had been very far from God for a long time. http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Luke+15:11-32


102 posted on 03/01/2009 12:39:05 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
here's a pygmy:

You know that's not a human skeleton, right?

103 posted on 03/01/2009 2:25:17 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Max_850
if Evolution did happen, why is it still not happening? Why don’t we see any half-ape/half-man creatures somewhere on earth or in any time of our recorded history?

There are a few ways to answer that question. One is that we are apes ourselves, so the idea of a "half-ape/half-man" is meaningless. You might as well ask why there isn't a half-orangutan/half-chimp.

Another is that evolution doesn't say that one species should turn into another contemporary species. Rather, one species diverges and gives rise to two, either or both of which might continue to evolve from that point. So way back there there was one common ancestor of humans and, say, chimpanzees; but both chimps and humans have continued to evolve since then (and there's no reason to expect them to evolve in the same direction). They are the tips of the twigs of the continuously growing tree or bush of life, and you won't get a 'half-one/half-the other" any more than you'd get a bud that was half on one twig and half on another.

Another is that there were other intermediate species around, but we either outcompeted them or killed them off. For whatever reason, for about 40,000 years this planet has only had room for one Homo species.

104 posted on 03/01/2009 2:39:28 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Clearly confusing the true and living God with that imposter named allah.

Allah is simply an alias for Satan, who does qualify as a vengeful demon.


105 posted on 03/01/2009 2:45:17 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; chuck_the_tv_out

In the Bible EVERY TIME an angel visited someone the FIRST thing the angel did was to make sure that they were unafraid and then the fear was gone.

According to Muhammad’s story in the Koran, when he was visited by an “angel” he stayed cowering in a cave with fear for days afterward. I have little doubt that Muhammad was visited by an “angel”, but it was an angel of Satan.


106 posted on 03/01/2009 2:48:29 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; Max_850
Another is that there were other intermediate species around, but we either outcompeted them or killed them off. For whatever reason, for about 40,000 years this planet has only had room for one Homo species.

Yeah, but plenty of room for a variety of primates which humans didn't outcompete or kill off.

I don't know what evos smoke that makes them come up with the reasons for why things happened or didn't happen, but reading those excuses (justifications) to prop up their theory is always good for a laugh.

107 posted on 03/01/2009 2:49:19 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DevNet

So if I just now happen to find something that I’m interested in and want to comment on, it’s bad form to reply to it even though I never knew of its existence before?

Right.....

That excuse won’t wash. You’ll have to find a better one for why the evos never responded much to it. It was certainly posted at a time of active crevo debates and enough of them saw it who did post an odd comment or two. If one sees it, they all see it.

I stand by the comment; it was virtually ignored by FR evos because it didn’t provide adequate material to mock and ridicule creationists, even though a couple gave it the old college try. Threads that don’t allow for one-size-fits-all creationist stereotyping never get much evo participation.


108 posted on 03/01/2009 3:02:58 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Yeah, but plenty of room for a variety of primates which humans didn't outcompete or kill off.

Right. Is that hard to understand or something?

I don't know what evos smoke that makes them come up with the reasons for why things happened or didn't happen, but reading those excuses (justifications) to prop up their theory is always good for a laugh.

Typically incisive, well-reasoned, science-based response. You didn't disappoint me.

109 posted on 03/01/2009 3:06:43 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: bert

etc.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

110 posted on 03/01/2009 3:21:05 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
Typically incisive, well-reasoned, science-based response. You didn't disappoint me.

The type of wild speculations evos come up with to prop up their theory don't deserve a serious response. Evo excuses are just grasping at straws.

111 posted on 03/01/2009 3:49:57 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
The type of wild speculations evos come up with to prop up their theory don't deserve a serious response.

Where was the wild speculation? There used to be homo neanderthalensis, homo sapiens idaltu, and possibly homo floresiensis. Now there aren't. I implied that homo sapiens sapiens outcompeted them or killed them off. What's your explanation for what happened to them?

Or is it their very existence that you're waving away as "wild speculation"?

112 posted on 03/01/2009 4:18:39 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

“possibly homo floresiensis”

“Where was the wild speculation?”

Speculation is at the heart of evolution, it is the totality of it’s so-called “proof”. What would evolutionist theory be if the words possible, if, maybe etc wasn’t at the core of your “proof”? That’s all evolutionist theory is - it is not, and I repeat not, science.


113 posted on 03/01/2009 4:49:23 PM PST by gscc
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

I don’t doubt that there are skeletons labels as such creatures.

What is wild speculation is what happened to them.


114 posted on 03/01/2009 5:37:14 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: gscc; Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
Speculation is at the heart of evolution, it is the totality of it’s so-called “proof”.

Speculation is what evos engage in when they line up a bunch of fossils and decide that one *evolved* from another based on similar physiology.

115 posted on 03/01/2009 5:39:04 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: gscc
That’s all evolutionist theory is - it is not, and I repeat not, science.

Thanks, but I'd already noticed that this topic had brought out the fingers-in-the-ears, hands-over-the-eyes school of creationist criticism. But just out of curiosity, what's missing from the theory of evolution that would make it a science ("systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation"), and why should we take your word for it over the thousands of people working in labs and in the field and writing articles for journals who think they're doing science?

116 posted on 03/01/2009 6:11:46 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: metmom
What is wild speculation is what happened to them.

You still haven't said why it's wild, nor have you offered your own explanation for what happened to them.

Speculation is what evos engage in when they line up a bunch of fossils and decide that one *evolved* from another based on similar physiology.

Typically disingenuous response. You've been reading these threads long enough to know there's more to it than that.

117 posted on 03/01/2009 6:16:44 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

“why should we take your word for it over the thousands of people working in labs and in the field and writing articles for journals who think they’re doing science?”

I suppose history will treat these “scientists” the same way they treat those who thought the world was flat, thought the sun revolved around the earth and thought mankind caused global warming.


118 posted on 03/01/2009 6:20:11 PM PST by gscc
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To: GodGunsGuts

The transition from fish to walking fish supposedly occurred during the carboniferous age i.e. when there were swarms of 3” wingspan insects flying around. Any idea what a swarm of insects like that would do to some stupid lungfish which was flopping around in the mud trying to learn to walk??


119 posted on 03/01/2009 6:56:52 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: gscc
I suppose history will treat these “scientists” the same way they treat those who thought the world was flat, thought the sun revolved around the earth and thought mankind caused global warming.

Hmm, who was it who figured out the world wasn't flat (and how big around it was) and that the earth went around the sun? Oh right, scientists.

And who's providing the data to challenge anthropogenic global warming? Oh right, scientists again.

Really, the argument that scientists were wrong once so they must be wrong about [fill in what you don't like] is about as lame as they come.

120 posted on 03/01/2009 7:38:07 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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