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1 dead in Illinois Church Shooting
Yahoo & AP ^ | 3/8/09 | JIM SUHR

Posted on 03/08/2009 10:38:10 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta

MARYVILLE, Ill. – Illinois state police say a man has shot a pastor to death and injured others at an church during a service in the community of Maryville.

Illinois Master Trooper Ralph Timmins says the man walked down the aisle during the early Sunday service at First Baptist Church in Maryville.

He said the man exchanged words with pastor Fred Winters and then pulled out a .45-caliber handgun.

Timmins said the man fatally shot Winters once before the gun jammed, then pulled out a knife and wounded himself.

Churchgoers tried to subdue the attacker and two of them suffered minor injuries.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; churchshooting; fredwinters; maryville; sedlacek
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1 posted on 03/08/2009 10:38:10 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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Fred Winters, Senior Pastor Of First Baptist Church in Maryville, has been killed.

2 posted on 03/08/2009 10:41:44 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

picture of perp?


3 posted on 03/08/2009 10:42:11 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Illinois is still a no-issue state, right? (As opposed to may-issue or shall-issue.)


4 posted on 03/08/2009 10:42:18 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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A prayer service will be held tonight at 6:00pm, March 8, 2009, at Metro Community Chuch in Edwardsville, IL.


5 posted on 03/08/2009 10:42:32 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Muzzie?


6 posted on 03/08/2009 10:42:49 AM PDT by Senormechanico
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Motive ?


7 posted on 03/08/2009 10:43:16 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: squarebarb

The gunman is unknown yet...


8 posted on 03/08/2009 10:43:55 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Very sad. The earlier stories said that members of the congregation knifed him. This story makes more sense.

He leaves a wife and two lovely daughters.


9 posted on 03/08/2009 10:44:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

There’s a photo of the Pastor and his family at

http://www.fbmaryville.org/aboutus/welcome.cfm

but the website now seems to be down. Maybe too many people trying to visit it.

God rest his soul.


10 posted on 03/08/2009 10:48:16 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Pulled out a knife and wounded himself, after the gun jammed?

Intended murder-suicide. Not described as a member of the church, and I’m very certain he would have been identified as such, had he been.

Either the shooter was completely delusional, or it was personal.


11 posted on 03/08/2009 10:48:35 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: coloradan

We’ve come to the point in this country where churches need security...


12 posted on 03/08/2009 10:48:56 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Cicero

I couldn’t get on that website either...


13 posted on 03/08/2009 10:49:43 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

RIP.


14 posted on 03/08/2009 10:53:28 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
We’ve come to the point in this country where churches need security...

The media and the schools have done all they can to make Christianity responsible for everything evil in our country.

15 posted on 03/08/2009 10:54:27 AM PDT by Taxbilly
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
I.....
I'm......
Speechless........

Prayers up...

16 posted on 03/08/2009 10:54:37 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: RegulatorCountry
Either the shooter was completely delusional, or it was personal.

A woman in the next county to me walked into her church and killed the secretary because she thought the minister and congregation paid too much attention to the woman. She was completely delusional and is serving a life sentence.

17 posted on 03/08/2009 10:55:40 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

We’ve come to the point in this country where
you’ll have to carry every where you go...
...including church.


18 posted on 03/08/2009 10:58:52 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Communism is Socialism with a gun to your head.)
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To: Markos33

“Master Trooper Ralph Timmins says the man walked down the aisle during the service, exchanged words with the pastor, then drew a .45-caliber handgun and fired.”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-03-08-church-shooting_N.htm


19 posted on 03/08/2009 11:00:35 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: squarebarb

Agreed.


20 posted on 03/08/2009 11:03:14 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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