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ABC News: Juarez, Mexico under the equivalent of Martial Law
google video ^ | March 8, 2009 | ABC News, Channel 7, El Paso, TX

Posted on 03/08/2009 6:15:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Mexican military forces take over police duty in Juarez, Mexico to combat drug cartel violence. Death count expected to increase.

(Excerpt) Read more at video.google.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; border; drugcartel; drugwarconsequences; mexico; refugees; thankprohibition; warnextdoor; wod
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To: Jim Robinson

Fisnish the fence, build a wall and deport illegals.


21 posted on 03/08/2009 6:31:09 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: OCC

It has been ongoing for a few days now. Some other info/videos of the troops:

http://www.kvia.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=3502916&h1=Soldiers%20arrive%20in%20Juarez%3B%20new%20PD%20chief%20likely%20to%20be%20military&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=115167&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&rnd=426851

http://www.kvia.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=3501627&h1=RAW%20VIDEO%3A%203%2C000%20more%20Mexican%20Army%20troops%20arrive%20in%20Juarez%20%28Courtesy%20ABCNewsOne%29&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=130200&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&rnd=81449263

CNN Story fromn a couple days ago:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/03/06/mexico.troops/index.html

Texas makes emergency plans in case violence spills over from Mexico
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2201954/posts


22 posted on 03/08/2009 6:31:53 PM PDT by deport
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To: Jim Robinson
IO disagree that deploying the military necessarily means an increasem in violence.

The ABC analysis ignores the difference between a police department dealing with a crime wave and a military force dealing with an insurrection.

Police are constrained to use minimum necessary force and to treat each perpetrator as an individual suspect. While the police are investigating and arresting individual criminals, the crime wave continues beyond their control

Once the decision has been made that it is no longer just a crime wave and that it has to be treate as an insurrection then military doctrine supplants police doctrime. That means that instead of using minimum necessary force, maximum available force is brought to bear.

Military doctrine has a clearer distinction between force and violence. Maximizing the early application of force has as its main purpose the suppression of violence.

In other words, if the deployed military is competent, there is an inverse relationship between force and violence.

23 posted on 03/08/2009 6:34:13 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Jim Robinson

(shakes head)

Meanwhile our dunce parties, flits around as if campaigning, talks to the next ones on terror lists.


24 posted on 03/08/2009 6:36:29 PM PDT by AliVeritas (And while the rest of the nation was still sleepin', they'll be bidding America goodbye.)
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To: hattend

LOL, were you at Clovis?


25 posted on 03/08/2009 6:37:57 PM PDT by AliVeritas (And while the rest of the nation was still sleepin', they'll be bidding America goodbye.)
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To: Jim Robinson

26 posted on 03/08/2009 6:38:28 PM PDT by Bobalu (McCain has been proven to be the rino flop I always thought he was.)
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To: bcsco; holdonnow; SoCalPol; HonestConservative; sono; Clint N. Suhks; tiredoflaundry; defconw; ...

ping


27 posted on 03/08/2009 6:39:33 PM PDT by AliVeritas (And while the rest of the nation was still sleepin', they'll be bidding America goodbye.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Since Vicente Fox is such a fun guy, why not give him a gun and badge so that he can go into Juarez to clean up the mess that he started???????? Politicians are not much different in Mexico than they are here!


28 posted on 03/08/2009 6:40:21 PM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: Clive

“In other words, if the deployed military is competent...”

Doomed.


29 posted on 03/08/2009 6:41:35 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Moose Burger

I have seen their military...they are NOT comparable to our guys patrolling in Bagdad.

Hell, I have even seen their military on our side of the border riding about in jeeps and acting as fools.


30 posted on 03/08/2009 6:44:33 PM PDT by Bobalu (McCain has been proven to be the rino flop I always thought he was.)
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To: shezza

>Who knows good guy from bad guy in that incestuous relationship?

Hey, at least the Mexican government is HONEST about its corruption; unlike here where it’s “if you get caught”.


31 posted on 03/08/2009 6:45:54 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Old Sarge
Any rumblings at Fort Bliss/El Paso?

Yeah, Obama will order US troops to escort illegal aliens to safety in US

32 posted on 03/08/2009 6:48:00 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (CPA, MBA needs a job - referrals welcome)
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To: AliVeritas
Old New for us in San Diego north of Tijuana, MX May 2008 Tijuana Solders in trucks 2008 official and military TJ 2008 rescuing in gun battle Members of a kidnappers gang are shown to the media with their sized guns after being arrested by Mexican Army in Tijuana 12/8/08 11/08 Fed Police SD – TJ border
33 posted on 03/08/2009 6:52:17 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin - Jindal 2012)
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To: Old Sarge

The streets in Juarez used to be full of soldiers from Ft Bliss....not any more....you don’t see any of them there any more. And all the night spots are boarded up...lack of customers I suppose.


34 posted on 03/08/2009 6:52:33 PM PDT by Bobalu (McCain has been proven to be the rino flop I always thought he was.)
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To: Bobalu

Good Luck!


35 posted on 03/08/2009 6:52:34 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: Bobalu
U.S.-trained forces reportedly helping Mexican cartels (link to Free Republic thread)

Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau

May 14, 2008

WASHINGTON — As many as 200 U.S.-trained Mexican security personnel have defected to drug cartels to carry out killings on both sides of the border and as far north as Dallas, Rep. Ted Poe, R-Humble, told Congress on Wednesday.

-snip-

The renegade members of Mexico's elite counter-narcotics teams trained at Fort Benning, Ga., have switched sides, contributing to a wave of violence that has claimed some 6,000 victims over the past 30 months, including prominent law enforcement leaders, the Houston-area Republican told the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

-snip-

36 posted on 03/08/2009 6:52:34 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: SoCalPol

i never got used to seeing children in conflict zones...


37 posted on 03/08/2009 6:57:58 PM PDT by wardaddy (I've known black people over 50 years, raised with them and by them.. Obama ain't BLACK, HE"S RED!)
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The decapitations have been going on just south of San Diego for a long time and last week several more.

Old News

Nine headless bodies found
Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:59pm EST

TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Nine decapitated bodies were discovered on Sunday in the Mexican border city of Tijuana, a hot spot in an increasingly gruesome war between drug cartels.

The bodies, along with their removed heads, had been left in a vacant lot beside a factory, witnesses and police told reporters.

Mexico is facing spiraling drug violence, especially along its border with the United States. Cities like Tijuana, south of San Diego, are seeing horrendous levels of crime, with bodies set on fire, cut up and dumped in acid and strung over highways.

Beheadings, kidnappings and daylight shootings have become common as vicious drug cartels fight over smuggling routes into the United States.

President Felipe Calderon has sent some 40,000 troops and federal police across Mexico to try to stop the killings. But despite major drug seizures and arrests, the killings continue.


38 posted on 03/08/2009 6:58:02 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin - Jindal 2012)
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To: wardaddy

A recent battle in the streets had many young school kids running in Tijuana.

Because this is south of Calif. it doesn’t count because Calif. doesn’t count in most people’s world


39 posted on 03/08/2009 7:00:56 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin - Jindal 2012)
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To: Ken H

I’m a nite owl...up to the wee hours most nights.

I live on a small ranch in New Mexico....just outside the El Paso county limits. A few nights ago I was out back sittin in the yard while the dog did his business....I heard something that sounded like a 2-cycle moped up in the air to the west....ran in the house and got this huge spotlight and pointed it in the direction of the sound...it was a dark colored ultralight zipping along about 500ft above the ground. It’s illegal to fly an ultralight in the dark.....so something interesting was going on. The thing continued east till it went out of sight.


40 posted on 03/08/2009 7:02:56 PM PDT by Bobalu (McCain has been proven to be the rino flop I always thought he was.)
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