Darwin's arguments against God

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[GodGunsGuts]

Darwin’s arguments against God

How Darwin rejected the doctrines of Christianity

by Russell Grigg

Charles Darwin

Charles Darwin grew up embracing the ‘intelligent design’ thinking of his day—William Paley’s renowned argument that the design of a watch implies there must have been an intelligent watchmaker, and so design in the universe implies there must have been an intelligent Creator.¹ Concerning this, Darwin wrote, ‘I do not think I hardly ever admired a book more than Paley’s “Natural Theology”.² I could almost formerly have said it by heart.’³

Nevertheless, Darwin spent most of the rest of his life attempting to explain design in nature without the need for any purpose or a guiding intelligence...

[Soothesayer]

How can you simply choose to believe? If that were possible then I would have believed years ago.

[Soothesayer]

Probably not, he was getting too old to overturn a theory like that.

[Soothesayer]

I have never seen hard data to support young Earth creationism, just ideas and accusations against evolution. No experiments, no tables, no calculations, nothing, nothing, nothing.

[sickoflibs]

You get the picture.

[Soothesayer]

Does he describe how a global flood would kill aquatic life?

[Soothesayer]

“EVEN IF more species are found- which isn’t likely concidering we have documented most known species kinds already- sorry, but your claim doesn’t wash”

Not even close to true. They are discovering many new species every year.

[Alter Kaker]

Except that the THEORY of evolution can’t explain the simplest and most obvious observations, like where is the river delta from all the silt that should be at the outlet of the Colorado river where it empties into the gulf of California after carving out the grand canyon for millions of years?

No, the theory of evolution can't explain that, but a first year geology student could.

The Colorado River originally flowed to the California coast and created the Monterrey submarine canyon. It changed course to the Sea of Cortez rather recently, thanks to the San Andreas fault.

You creationists are really remarkable. You spout off arrogantly on this kind of crap and yet never have any idea what you're talking about.

[Alter Kaker]

God, Nathan Zachary wrote: Except that the THEORY of evolution can’t explain the simplest and most obvious observations, like where is the river delta from all the silt that should be at the outlet of the Colorado river where it empties into the gulf of California after carving out the grand canyon for millions of years?

The Colorado River has a large delta. Where the heck to you people find this crap?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River_Delta

[gondramB]

>>If a person dies in their sin, without accepting the sacrifice Christ made for their sin as the only way to pay for their sin, they spend eternity in their sin. Darwin gave folks who loved their sin ammunition to fight Holy Spirit conviction and cover to continue in their fallen state.<<

Suppose that God did, in fact, oversee the development of humans from other life forms over a long time.

Would you similarly condemn those people who had suggested otherwise? Would you blame them for all believed as they do?

The truth is that God is big enough thata disagreement about something scientific should not interfere with faith or or cause anyone to go to hell unless their vision of God is too small.

[demshateGod]

except he said otherwise in his Word.

[demshateGod]

Nope and that’s how I know evolution is false.

[CottShop]

[[Not even close to true. They are discovering many new species every year.]]

Excuse me, I meant KINDS- Yep you’re right, there are many ‘species’ found, but very few KINDS- Aint microevolution great?

[Rummenigge]

I have given an answer right above. Been a bit quick with your stereotypic reflex ?

[Rummenigge]

... lol and was Maria really a virgin ?

This all reminds me o0n adiscussion between a persian emigrant that studied physics in the US and an Imam - the Imam claimed, the earth to be flat.

NOTHING convinced him - he had faith - maybe he wasn’t even stupid (ok a bit stupid) but he lived in a society whith strong social punishments for these strange western theories.

The pope recently declared that Darwin isn’t really in clash with the bible....

How can the old catholic church be more wise then the lutherian branch ?

[tacticalogic]

Nope and that’s how I know evolution is false.

How do you plan on convincing the scientists, and the people who write the science text books based on their work of that?

[demshateGod]

I don’t, I’m not a scientist, I’m an architect, what I think everyone should here is they’re sinners in need of salvation. Christ is their only hope for that. Others have done a good enough job disproving darwinist evolution or at least giving credence to Biblical Creation. I just come here to defend what they say and defend what the Bible says. If what Darwin says is true, men are NOT in need of salvation. I don’t see any reason to believe what Darwinists and eugenicist, atheist, metaphysicists say, over what the Bible says.

[Mind Freed]

It’s a case of having faith that there is a God. History has proved that Jesus did exist and that he was crucified. I have faith that Jesus did that to take our sins. I didn’t just choose one day to believe in God. I honestly feel that I have felt his spirit and agree with what the Bible says.

[Soothesayer]

A “Kind” could be many different things. The Bible says that God’s thoughts are not our thoughts. So how do we know he wasn’t referring to genetic lineages or something less obvious?

[Soothesayer]

Why does creationism need this wild global flood theory?

There was a tsunami 8,000 years ago in the Mediterranean. It was caused by a volcanic avalanche in Sicily. How do we know that this was not the “flood” pouring down on the land?

[tacticalogic]

The by your account the people who say that the objective of the creationists is simply to make science conform to their theology are right.