Posted on 03/16/2009 10:08:22 AM PDT by pissant
Southern California attorney Orly Taitz has emerged as a constitutional heroine in the fight to establish – albeit late – whether Barack Obama is even legally eligible to serve as president of the United States.
On Friday, she took the bold step of presenting Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts with a WND petition of some 330,000 names calling on all controlling legal authorities to do just that.
And she did it before 800 people at the University of Idaho where he was speaking.
I have to tell you, this lady is rapidly becoming one of my heroes.
This question of eligibility is quite a story – or, should I say, non-story.
Anyone who dares mention it is now demeaned as a "birther."
I'll accept the title, if a "birther" is anyone who believes the Constitution really means what it plainly says about the president needing to be a "natural born citizen."
The insults won't stop me or WND from covering this issue as we have throughout the campaign and since the election. It's not going away – not until we see the complete birth certificate instead of the certification of live birth, and get some answers to questions of obviously growing concern to millions of Americans.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
Works for me. He can be a prison wife to his heros
The link tells me nothing. What point is it supposed to be making?
Well, it was pretty much automatic. He didn't have to request anything.
And you know granny does not speak swahili?
According to Wikipedia, among other sources, she speaks Luo. A few words in English. A few words in Swahili. Not enough to conduct an interview in.
Your alibis for your hero are thin gruel, ace.
Thicker than your evidence to the contrary.
Oh I see. Then show me his registration as a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies. Surely the brits kept better records than the Kenyans. You can’t produce squat.
Yes, its my habit to rely on Wikipedia for information on Obama. What’s next? FactCheck?
Nor can you it seems.
How do you know he failed to renounce his U.S. citizenship?
Are there any records from say Occidental or Columbia which would verify your statement and show him as a US citizen student?
I can produce links to LEGAL affadvits regarding Berg’s case. A tape of the conversation w/ granny. An affidavit regarding the BS address the papers gave for Ear’s HI birth announcement. Voluminous evidence of COLB forgery. More than voluminous instances of Obama lying through his marxist teeth.
You Obama cheerleaders are taking the word of one rancid lying commie. Be proud, sucker.
Have you read the transcript of the complete conversation, or only the part that Berg includes in his filings? Because if that's what you're hanging on to as the smoking gun, you've got problems.
MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was gonna go by and see where he was born.(two male voices in background in foreign language speaking at the same time. Mrs. Obama or another woman in background.)
VOICE (background): It was Hawaii.
VOICE OF MRS. OBAMA OR ANOTHER WOMAN (background): Hawaii.
BROTHER TOM (background): Hawaii, yeah?
VOICE OF MRS. OBAMA OR ANOTHER WOMAN (background): Yeah.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (background): Yes.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (to McRae): Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii.
MCRAE: OK.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: Yeah, in 1960 this was Hawaii, where his father, his father was also marrying there. This was Hawaii.
MCRAE: OK.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: Yeah.
MCRAE: Was, was, was Mrs. Obama, was sh--was she present? Was, was Mrs. Obama, see I thought you said she was present. Was she, was, was she, was she able to see him being, being born in, in Hawaii?
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: (pause, silence) Hoh? (pause) Uh, yeah would you please pronounce?
MCRAE: OK I’m sorry. I, I thought she said she was present when he was born. I was—
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (sounding exasperated): No, no! The, the woman was not present. She was uh not, a what--you see, she was here in Kenya, and Obama was born in America. That is, that’s obvious.
MCRAE: OK.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: Because, because the grandmother was married here in Kenya, and Obama was born in America, oh yeah, so his son, the little Obama, was marrying, was marrying, in America, in United States.
MCRAE: Oh, OK, fine. I mean, I--I just, I misunderstood what she was saying. I thought you said she was present when he was born.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: No, not present there. The present with me here was tonight. Not present so she can leave. No she was here in Kenya while he, uh, her son, the little Obama, was marrying in America. And, uh, he be present if it--
WOMAN'S VOICE (background): It was in Hawaii.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: --was in America there, why are they for, they go, they go, they go to some place, then the present isn't here sir, he was born there in America.
MCRAE: OK. Well tell, tell her I would like to come by and see her when I am there in December. I would love to, uh, meet her personally and pray with her.
Your citing Wikipedia?
Swahili is the national language of Kenya. It is an African language that unifies and spoken by almost 100 percent of the Kenya population. Even the illiterate of Kenyans know some basic Swahili.
http://www.kenya-information-guide.com/kenya-language.html
Yes, it’s always better to believe the retards that twist this to protect Obama than the affidavit of the guy who translated the conversation.
11/2/2008
Philip J. Berg V. Obama et al.; Affidavit of Reverend Shuhubia
Affidavit of Reverend Shuhubia
I, Kweli Shuhubia am over the age of eighteen (18) and not a party to the within action. If called to do so, I could and would competently testify under oath as follows:
I am an ordained minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ and a native evangelist and translator for the Anabaptist church in Kenya. I am the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptists Conference held each year in Africa, working with the American bishops sitting upon the Continental Presbytery of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa. I am fluent in Swahili and in English. I am a former teacher in Kenya, and travel extensively in the ministries of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa throughout Kenya, Uganda and the Sudan.
It is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the United States Presidential candidate, was born in Mombasa Kenya. Senator Obama’s grandmother still resides in the village of Alego-Kogello, approximately 37 miles from Kisumu City. On October 16, 2008, I went to interview Ms. Sarah Obama at her home. Ms. Obama’s home was flooded with people who were celebrating Senator Obama’s success story. Ms. Obama’s home was heavily guarded by Kenya Police. Prior to the interview with Ms. Obama, I took pictures of Ms. Obama, her grandson who was present and other family members.
During my interview of Sarah Obama, I called Bishop Ron McRae in the United States from my mobile number. I advised Bishop McRae that I was present with Ms. Obmaa in her home, and wished for him to speak with her. Bishop McRae informed me he would call me right back, to avoid the international costs on my personal mobile phone. Bishop McRae subsequently called me back; Bishop McRae requested permission to electronically record his telephone conversation with Ms. Obama, to which I agreed.
Due to bad telephone connections Bishop McRae had to call me back three (3) times, before we were able to continue our conversation. The telephone interview conducted by Bishop McRae was conducted on loud speaker (speaker phone). During the interview conversation, one of Ms. Obama’s grandsons and myself acted as Swahili translators, and as Bishop McRae talked to and questioned Ms. Obama, we would translate what Bishop McRae said to Ms. Obama in Swahili, and then we would translate her Swahili responses to Bishop McRae in English. Ms. Obama can fluently speak Swahili in her native dialect, but cannot read or write.
Bishop McRae asked Ms. Obama specifically, “Were you present when your grandson Barack Obama was born in Kenya” This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she specifically replied “Yes”. It appeared Ms. Obama’s relatives and her grandson, handling the translating, had obviously been versed to counter such facts with purported information from American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii. Despite this, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States. When Mrs. Obama’s grandson attempted to counter his grandmother’s clear responses to the question, verifying the birth of Senator Obama in Kenya, Bishop McRae asked her grandson how she could be present at Barack Obama’s birth if the Senator was born in Hawaii, but the grandson would not answer the question, instead he repeatedly tried to insert that “No, No, No he was born in the United States!” But during the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she was indeed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya. A copy of the tape transcript is attached hereto as Exhibit “A”.
I left Kisumu City and traveled to Mombasa, Kenya. I interviewed personnel at the hospital to which Senator Obama was born in Kenya. I then had meetings with the Provincial Civil Registrar. I learned there were records of Ann Dunham giving birth to Barrack Hussein Obama, III in Mombasa, Kenya on August 4, 1961. I spoke directly with an Official, the Principal Registrar, who openly confirmed the birthing records of Senator Barack H. Obama, JR. and his mother were present, however, the file on Barach H. Obama, Jr. was classified and profiled. The Official explained Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. birth in Kenya is top secret. I was further instructed to go to the Attorney General’s Office and to the Minister in Charge to immigration if I wanted further information.
The above related facts are true and verifiable to the best of my personal knowledge before God Almighty, whose I am and whom I serve.
I declare under the penalty of perjury of the laws of the United States, that the foregoing is true and correct.
Signed,
Kweli Shuhubia
Why does Berg excerpt the transcript instead of presenting the whole thing?
Why do you think such a registration would exist?
what is even more humorous is people who attack ones who just want the Kenyan to show his BC yet you have zero proof he WAS born here. Always asking proof from us. I think quite a bit of proof has been shown. So now its your turn. Show the proof. Can’t? I thought so...
Just the FACT Obama’s father is NOT a natural born is enough to disqualifying him. I never will understand the deaf and dumb who cant see what is in front of them.
Because there is no evidence to indicate that he ever did. The burden of proof is on those who wish to claim he renounced it.
You mean this Kweli Shuhubia in Mr. McCraes’s Affidavit:
NOTATION: Mr. Shuhudia called me first on October 16th at 10:33a.m. and advised that he was with Sarah Hussein Obama and that she wanted to speak with me, but the connection was lost. He called me right back at 10:35a.m. and he informed me that there were several hundred people present, celebrating Obama’s success. I questioned him about the format of the phone call and conversation with Ms. Obama, and then informed him that I would call him right back, so it would not cost him international charges for the call. I called back at 10:40a.m. and public music and voices could be heard that were gathered around Kweli Shuhudia. I then spoke with him and requested that they utilize the speaker phone so everyone could hear. The speaker phone with its
open microphone was utilized with Mr. Kweli Shuhudia, Mr. Vitalis Akech Ogombe assisting in the translation work and Ms. Sarah Hussein, along with several hundred people including policeman present and listening to the open conversation between the four of us for approximately 15 minutes. A third unknown party can be heard periodically
interjecting both Swahili and English words in the public discussion and conversation between the four of us. At times the room noise from other peoples’ voices makes some
of the swahili difficult to hear, and towards the end of the converstaion several men’s voices are heard that are not identified.
From AT&T Monthly Statement of Calls:
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Transcript:
Two Rings:
Kweli Shuhudia: Hello? [Back ground music]
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae 2
Ron McRae: Brother Kweli? [music] Brother Kweli? This is Brother McRae.
Kweli Shuhudia: Yes.
Ron McRae: Okay. How are you today?
Kweli Shuhudia: Now. We are okay. How are you?
Ron McRae: I’m doing very well. You said you are there with, uh, Barack Obama’s grandmother?
Kweli Shuhudia: Yes. I am just in the home now. She is right here. We’re, we’re waiting to talk in a uh long conversation. And [unitelligible] a good family and she is ready to talk.
Ron McRae: Good. She’s not there at the present?
Kweli Shuhudia: Yes. She’s here right now.
Ron McRae: Okay. Is it possible to speak to her?
Kweli Shuhudia: Yes. It is possible. I ah, along with her and her family, uh, you and me.
Ron McRae: Uh, is it possible for you to put her on the speaker phone and translate for me?
Kweli Shuhudia: Yes! Yes! I will do that.
Ron McRae: Okay.
Kweli Shuhudia: Yes?
Ron McRae: Okay.
Kweli Shuhudia: Yes. Go ahead [he then speaks to her in Swahili]
Sarah Obama: [Replies to him in Swahili]
Ron McRae: Ms. Obama?
Kweli Shuhudia: Yes go ahead.
Ron McRae: Mrs. Obama, my name is bishop Ron McRae.
Kweli Shuhudia: Ametaja bishop Ron McRae, Ron McRae. Go ahead.
Ron McRae: I am, I am the bishop of the Anabaptists Churches of North America.
Kweli Shuhudia: Yeye niaskofu Anabaptists makaisa.
Sarah Obama: Shikamooo! [Hello, good day].
Mr. Ogombe: Are you speaking English and , and we will tell her in Luo. Okay?
Ron McRae: Now give me that again. Explain it to me again.
Ogombe: It is welcome. She is very grateful for your interest.
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae 3
Ron McRae: Okay. Thank you! Tell her I count it a great honor to speak to here since her son Barack Obama is running for President of the United States.
Ogombe: Eh makasema yuko kiuu mgomba Obama kwa mwenyekiti America. Yah, she
says she is very helpful for got to you to please pray for Obama. She is asking you to pray
for him. For Obama.
Ron McRae: Yes Sir. Uh…Ms. Obama, you can rest assured that I am praying for your son, for your grandson.
Ogombe: Yes. It is helpful also towards it is beginning to help.
Ron McRae: Okay.
Sarah Obama: [unitelligible from Ms. Obama because of room noise].
Ogombe: She says she is covet your prayers for he [unintelligible] her son.
Ron McRae: Okay. And tell her that I will be coming there in December and I would like to come by and meet with her and pray with her.
Ogombe: Yes. Ye atakuwa mwezi Desemba.
Kweli Shuhudia: In December. He will come in December and he wants to come and talk
with you.
Sarah Obama: [unitelligible]
Ogombe: Oh she says you’re so encourage her. Your coming in December so you can talk together with her.
Ron McRae: Amen. I am so thankful. Could I ask her, uh, about his, uh, his actual
birthplace? I would like to see hi actual birthplace when I, when I come to Kenya in
December. Uh, was she present when he was, was she present when he was born in
Kenya?
Ogombe to Sarah Obama: Alikuma zalima Obama [unintelligible].
Kweli Shuhudia: He is asking her, he wants to know something was ah she present when
he was born?
Ogombe: Yes. She says, “Yes she was! She was present when Obama was born.”
Ron McRae: Okay.
Yeah, that one. She doesn’t speak Swahili.
Cause if he wasn’t a citizen of UK&C then he wouldn’t have been conferred Kenyan citizenship as the Obama kneepadders claim he was.
You Berg & Keyes kneepadders have a serious logic problem.
Until 1863, he was a citizen of the UK & C by virtue of his father being a British subject. He did not have to register with any authority to gain that citizenship. It was automatic, just like his receiving Kenyan citizenship in 1863.
And you have zero evidence he wasn't.
I think quite a bit of proof has been shown.
Where? Claims that the ambassador said something he didn't? Claims of interviews given in a language that the woman didn't speak? Claims that he used a foreign passport to travel to Pakistan because a travel ban that didn't exist? That's your idea of proof?
Just the FACT Obama’s father is NOT a natural born is enough to disqualifying him.
No it is not.
What?? You mean you BELIEVE this conversation took place. You mean she actually said yes, she was present at Obama’s birth. You mean McCrae and Shuhubia are real people doing real research? Heavens to betsy, what next? You might even admit that Factcheck has never seen Obama’s Birth Certificate?
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