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House passes bill taxing AIG and other bonuses (HR 1586: Tax 90% over $250,000)
Breitbart - Associated Press ^ | March 18, 2009 | STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

Posted on 03/19/2009 12:10:57 PM PDT by ConservativeMind

Acting with lightning speed, the Democratic-led House has approved a bill to slap punishing taxes on big employee bonuses from firms bailed out by taxpayers.

The vote was 328-93.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; aig; congress; democratcongress; democrats; dodd; economy
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To: flintsilver7
The more Democrats lash out, the more they are obviously guilty of the crime they are pretending to fight against.

They are covering the other blunders as well, like the billions given overseas. They are mum on that, hoping we don't notice. This is setting a precedent to go in and break private contracts, no matter if it's a corporation or an individual, like you and me.

41 posted on 03/19/2009 12:24:51 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Fellow Traveler
Tax payer money should not be laundered through insolvent companies and then given to politicians.

Why not? The politicians are already using AIG to launder bail-out money (taxpayer provided) which is then funneled to foreign banks. Yes, we are bailing out the world.

I believe the "outrage" the politicians are expressing is due, in no small part, to them wanting to keep the American public from learning that we are sending taxpayer dollars to bail out foreign banks.

42 posted on 03/19/2009 12:25:18 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: FrogMom

Or just any amount over $250,000 per year?

And that won’t be the end, either.


43 posted on 03/19/2009 12:25:32 PM PDT by keats5
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To: Callahan

“How long before that 90% tax gets applied to ANY bonus the Obama-bots deem to “large”?”

Or salary? Or inheritance? Or gift?


44 posted on 03/19/2009 12:25:40 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: ConservativeMind

boy, this has got to be the best reason for hiding your assets


45 posted on 03/19/2009 12:27:15 PM PDT by sfvgto (Dear Congress, my name is Jimmie....gimmie, gimmie, gimmie)
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To: ConservativeMind

Next DC idea by libs?

“Tax Rush Limbaugh for the windfall of lies he tells about our new loved president. How dare he want P Obama to fail? How about a 90% tax of radio talk show hosts that make over a certain $$$ and have over so many stations. He is profiting on Obama’s misfortunes”


46 posted on 03/19/2009 12:27:39 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RINOs : "We stand for nothing but we're not as bad as Pelosi !")
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To: ConservativeMind

This is clearly within the enumerated powers in the Constitution, where? This is only the first of the enemy’s lists. Back in the USSA


47 posted on 03/19/2009 12:27:41 PM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Liberals vote in lock step. Conservatives split their votes because we haven’t had areal conservative run in a w3hile. Notice I didn’t use the word “repoblican”. That’s completely different from “conservative”.


48 posted on 03/19/2009 12:28:41 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I Hate All Politicians, Republicans Included.)
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To: dead

I don’t think they do.


49 posted on 03/19/2009 12:28:56 PM PDT by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: scooby321

They came after the jews and I did nothing. They came after the Blacks and I did nothing. They came after and there was no one left to protect me.

+++ ++++++++ +++++ ++++++ ++++

Nailed it.

This is unconstitutional. I’m not a fan of bail out companies giving bonuses but we MUST MUST MUST defend our consititution.


50 posted on 03/19/2009 12:29:13 PM PDT by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation !)
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To: LibertarianLiz

I’m not sure, but I definitely have heard from multiple sources that they were part of the problem. It doesn’t make sense to me, but I do suppose it’s possible.


51 posted on 03/19/2009 12:30:13 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: Glenn
There is no crime alleged.

It doesn't require a crime ...

"Bills of attainder, ex post facto laws, and laws impairing the obligations of contracts, are contrary to the first principles of the social compact, and to every principle of sound legislation. ... The sober people of America are weary of the fluctuating policy which has directed the public councils. They have seen with regret and indignation that sudden changes and legislative interferences, in cases affecting personal rights, become jobs in the hands of enterprising and influential speculators, and snares to the more-industrious and less-informed part of the community." James Madison, Federalist Number 44, 1788.

52 posted on 03/19/2009 12:30:45 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Clinton was our first black President ... Obama is our first French President.)
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To: ConservativeMind

You hit it right on the head, this is VERY dangerous. Targeting individuals for specific tax rates is further proof of the insanity of this congress and administration.

I’m sure this will be challenged in the courts. It’ll be interesting to watch how this plays out.


53 posted on 03/19/2009 12:31:36 PM PDT by maddog55 (Socialism is communism with fewer re-education camps.)
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To: pabianice

I agree this was true until the 16th amendment came along. I think they are using that as the umbrella.

The law which the 16th amendment is based on was found unconstitutional several times before it was made explicitly part of the constitution.


54 posted on 03/19/2009 12:31:42 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: EBH
B. Frank called those retention bonuses...extortion payments today.

The fact that Barney Frank is still in charge of his committee is an outrage. He was the primary mover and shaker for all the bad loans to begin with.

I have often told people who doubt the bias of the media, that the worst bias is not the obvious stuff that they write (which is bad), but the stuff that they (the all knowing, all seeing editors) decide NOT to tell you.

That Barney Frank's role in Fannie & Freddie's problems in the housing/financial market has not received the scrutiny it deserves, is proof positive of this.

55 posted on 03/19/2009 12:32:35 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: ConservativeMind

“This is very wrong. They are targeting specific individuals, after the fact, for something lawfully given.”

I disagree... Tax laws are almost always retroactive. Just because something is lawfully given doesn’t mean it cant be lawfully taxed. People who effectively bankrupted the company should not be compensated for it at the taxpayer’s expense.


56 posted on 03/19/2009 12:33:59 PM PDT by babygene (It seems that stupidity is the most abundant element in the universe)
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To: SeaDragon

Ping


57 posted on 03/19/2009 12:34:26 PM PDT by RikaStrom (Bitter? Who me? Nah, I'm just clinging to my guns!)
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To: Big_Monkey
I agree with you, but I would add:

The damage being done to "contract law" by this and the "cram-down" bill, that would allow judges to change the terms of a mortgage contract; is going to make everyone sorry. The rule of law in the form of contracts is a strong and necessary piece of doing business in America. I don't think anyone has really thought about what this is doing to contract law.

58 posted on 03/19/2009 12:36:20 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: pabianice

Applies only to criminal, not civil. Aren’t smokers targeted along with other groups with taxes?


59 posted on 03/19/2009 12:37:15 PM PDT by babygene (It seems that stupidity is the most abundant element in the universe)
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To: ConservativeMind
EX POST FACTO?

If there is anything left of respect for the Constitution, this will be thrown out of court.

60 posted on 03/19/2009 12:37:34 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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