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"if the President elect shall have failed to qualify”
3-21-09 | Uncle Sham

Posted on 03/21/2009 9:58:28 AM PDT by Uncle Sham

The twentieth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution contains what might be the key to unlocking the mystery of Barrack Obama’s long-form birth certificate. It reads as follows:

”1. The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.

2. The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.

3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

4. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.

5. Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October following the ratification of this article.

6. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission.”

The portion in bold stating “or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify” in section three is particularly interesting in that it plainly seems to infer that a “qualification” of some sort must be made in order to serve as President. This is further enforced with the passage at the end of section three where it plainly states "until a President or Vice President shall have qualified." Certainly, one cannot argue that it does not require a qualification process for one to “qualify”. To infer that the lack of a “specified” qualification process means that stated eligibility “qualifications” for the office of president can be ignored is fallacious. The wording of this passage in the twentieth amendment clearly infers that a qualification is required, regardless of how this is done. There is only one set of qualifications listed anywhere in the Constitution that are not health related and they are listed in Article two, section one.

” No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

To satisfy meeting the requirement of the twentieth amendment to “qualify”, a president elect must present evidence that he meets it’s requirements for eligibility to serve. This means that a proper birth certificate HAD to be presented by the president elect in order to serve as president. If this was done, where is that certificate and to whom was it presented? If this was done, why would we not have the right to verify and inspect it under the freedom of information act?

If it was NOT done, then under the provisions of the twentieth amendment, Barrack Obama has “failed to qualify” and should not be serving as president of the United States of America.


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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: Aroostok Republican

Welcome to FR!

The twin problems are that Hawai’i will issue a Hawaiian birth certificate to a foreign born child, and no one who is not in the 0bama camp has seen a paper copy of the certification of birth posted on the Daily KOS and FactCheck web sights.

It gets much more complicated than that, with all kinds of information indicating something isn’t right, but the fact that 0bama won’t release a copy of his true long form birth certificate is the core of the problem.

Reasonable people find it very suspicious that in order to avoid releasing a form that would cost ~$20 to get in hand, hundreds of thousands (some say over a million) dollars have been spent on legal fees.


22 posted on 03/21/2009 10:23:01 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 61 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Aroostok Republican

You ask lots of questions don’t you. Too bad the one you really should be asking isn’t one of them. Why can’t we see Obama’s proof of “qualifications” to serve as OUR President?


23 posted on 03/21/2009 10:23:28 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

This qualification would only be relevent if the USA government paid any attention to the Constitution. It should be obvious to anyone with a brain that they do not.


24 posted on 03/21/2009 10:23:53 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Helotes
"Unfortunately, only those who have standing to challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama may bring an action. However, anyone who brings an action seeking to challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama, ipso facto, does not have standing to bring such an action. "

Your comment is a bit vague, but as I recall only those who have "standing" can actually see the birth certificate, i.e. spouse, relative, etc.

However, I don't think bringing an action against commiebama to force him to prove his eligibility requires such standing; it should be that any American citizen can demand that their pres_ent must prove his eligibility.

But as another poster said, he had to prove it to someone at some time, and if that person passed him with a phony document we would never know it with all this secrecy.

If people are getting P.O.'d at his policies now, think how we'd all feel if we later found out he was totally ineligible to be pres_ent in the first place.

I think his rise to power was an elaborate plan, and that book - "Dreams of my Father" was smokescreen to dilute the suspicion of his nationality/citizenship status, thereby qualifying him as Teleprompter Reader in Chief.
25 posted on 03/21/2009 10:24:25 AM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity (bailout) we receive...think about it.)
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To: Uncle Sham

BTTT


27 posted on 03/21/2009 10:26:11 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Blogger

The birth issue is important because it could make many of his executive orders null and void.

If his allegiance is not to this country, it affects his decision making. In fact it already has. He seems to look more favorably on the terrorists who have tried to harm our country than the people he is supposed to be representing. He is intentionally doing things to hurt our economy and our national safety.

I personally do not think he is a natural born citizen. If he were, he would have shown the original birth certificate by now.Eric Holder was right. We are a nation of cowards. If we weren’t, we would demand proof of the birth certificate.


28 posted on 03/21/2009 10:26:33 AM PDT by packman
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To: McGruff

The long form states his mother is a virgin. He considers that its not yet time to reveal his divine paternity.


30 posted on 03/21/2009 10:27:47 AM PDT by dr huer
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To: Aroostok Republican

His not being a natural citizen is a very real issue. If he is not; he should step down.


32 posted on 03/21/2009 10:29:47 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: mkjessup

Indeed! All Hawaii said was, “Yup! He was born!”, and that’s about it. Foreign-born babies could have received a valid statement that says “Yup! I was born!”, but simply being born does not qualify one to hold the Office of the President.


33 posted on 03/21/2009 10:30:29 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Aroostok Republican

It may be the only legal means to get him out of office.


34 posted on 03/21/2009 10:31:12 AM PDT by packman
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To: Uncle Sham
"To satisfy meeting the requirement of the twentieth amendment to “qualify”, a president elect must present evidence that he meets it’s requirements for eligibility to serve. This means that a proper birth certificate HAD to be presented by the president elect in order to serve as president. If this was done, where is that certificate and to whom was it presented?"

Have you contacted any election official in Louisiana to determine how Barack Obama got on the ballot as a presidential candidate? Is it as simple as checking a box on a form that asks if you're a natural born citizen, or is there a process and qualifying paperwork required?

36 posted on 03/21/2009 10:34:10 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: Aroostok Republican

There is a difference between a birth certificate and a certificate of live birth (COLB). And yes, Hawaii did for a period of time issue birth certificates to those born outside of their state, but I’m not one who studies these things. Perhaps someone else can point you out to the threads that go into this into detail or would care to explain.


37 posted on 03/21/2009 10:34:25 AM PDT by JavaJumpy
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Comment #39 Removed by Moderator

To: Aroostok Republican
I am asking a genuine question here, not trying to pick a fight.

You are VERY late to the debate and have missed virtually ALL the explications and explanations that 99% of the folks on this board are already familiar with, such as the fact that one did NOT need to be born in Hawaii in 1961 to be issued a Hawaiian COLB.

Don't believe it? Well, you had better believe it, because it is a fact. Check it out. Proper searches right here on Free Republic will give you all the references you need to educate yourself on the subject.

40 posted on 03/21/2009 10:35:41 AM PDT by John Valentine
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