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Natural Born is Not Ambiguous
Stupidica ^ | 3/24/2009 | Uncredited

Posted on 03/25/2009 4:19:49 AM PDT by AJMCQ

The words “natural born” are depicted in fact. The word “Citizenship” relates to a legal status. “Citizen” when used alone is defined within the US constitution in Amendment XIV to describe what persons would fall into the category of US Citizenship. There also are several points of reference describing US citizenship including USC Title 8 and precedent setting cases (US v. Wong Kim Ark and Perkins v Elg). Meanwhile there are no laws or precedents existing to describe those who may or may not be a “natural born Citizen”. This is most likely because “natural born citizen” is not a legal status. It is a statement of fact. The other reason is because this unique qualification only applies to the President of the United States. To the best of my knowledge, there are no other distinctions between a “citizen” (natural, native, naturalized, or other) and a natural born Citizen. The qualifier “natural born” means that one’s “Citizenship” is absent of ambiguity – meaning both of your parents were US citizens & you were born on US soil. According to the writings of the framers of the constitution, this qualifier was put in to avoid any loyalties to any other country and at the time in particular, England. Provisions were put in to allow those who were Citizens at the time of the signing to become President.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; birtherrebirth; birthers; eligibility; naturalborn; usurper
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This is not going to go away Mr. Soetoro.
1 posted on 03/25/2009 4:19:49 AM PDT by AJMCQ
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To: AJMCQ
this unique qualification only applies to the President of the United States.

I believe it also applies to the Vice President.

But doesn't the Constitution have a clause about having a fax of a copy of a newspaper birth announcement?

2 posted on 03/25/2009 4:24:09 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Hey, Snopes said there’s nothing to all this/sarc

LOL


3 posted on 03/25/2009 4:31:16 AM PDT by Freedom_Fighter_2001 (When money is no object - it's your money they're talking about)
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To: AJMCQ

Are you sure about both the parents?


4 posted on 03/25/2009 4:34:29 AM PDT by bgill
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To: AJMCQ

By this definition neither candidate was a natural born citizen. Nor is Bobby Jindal.


5 posted on 03/25/2009 4:40:42 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Freedom_Fighter_2001

Well it’s been “Twittered to death”.


6 posted on 03/25/2009 4:42:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: AJMCQ

People should pay attention to this COLB issue. It might be the only way to get rid of him. However, if Sheriff Joe takes over, he’d probably have a stroke in the first week from the excitement. Then someone would most likely choke Nancy in her sleep. Followed by Hillary. She’s actually looking pretty good right now.


7 posted on 03/25/2009 4:43:39 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: bgill
I guess you are saying that we are stuck with this imbecile.
8 posted on 03/25/2009 4:44:47 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: Izzy Dunne
I believe it also applies to the Vice President.

Interesting. Henry Kissinger was Secretary of State, so he would normally be in the line of succession to be President.

But Kissinger was foreign born.

9 posted on 03/25/2009 4:51:22 AM PDT by syriacus (Who else but a sociopath attempts gallows humor in front of his victims?)
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To: DooDahhhh

No, the real bc should do it. However, there’s lots of $$$$ being used to keep it sealed so until the Supremes stop throwing the case in the trash we are stuck with him.


10 posted on 03/25/2009 4:53:04 AM PDT by bgill
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To: null and void; LucyT

PING


11 posted on 03/25/2009 5:00:57 AM PDT by stockpirate (April 15 join the tax revolt tea parties.)
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To: syriacus
I'm no scholar, but I wondered about that, as well.

The Twelfth Amendment says no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Article II.1.5 says No Person except a natural born Citizen [...] shall be eligible to the Office of President;

Sounds like Kissinger would NOT have been eligible.

12 posted on 03/25/2009 5:03:02 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: stockpirate

and bump!


13 posted on 03/25/2009 5:13:57 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Thank for doing the research Izzy Dunne.


14 posted on 03/25/2009 5:16:07 AM PDT by syriacus (Who else but a sociopath attempts gallows humor in front of his victims?)
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To: AJMCQ; dennisw; Jeremiah Jr
Basically what we are dealing with here is the seed of Satan, wherever it was spawned. Zero has no records, no history, no name. Here's all you need to know...


15 posted on 03/25/2009 5:17:38 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: CanaGuy
Joe Biden is an idiot, but at least he's OUR idiot - natural born. At least I don't get the impression he is out to intentionally destroy this Country. To him it would be just a by-product.

Let 0dumbo go back to Kenya or Indonesia or wherever.

16 posted on 03/25/2009 5:25:42 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Just your average Whitey clinging to my guns and religion! FUBO Kenyan Usurper- baby killing muslim)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

If Obama is found ineligible, then Biden is ineligible too.

If the Obama electoral ticket was invalid then Biden is no more President than I am.


17 posted on 03/25/2009 5:38:01 AM PDT by agere_contra (So ... where's the birth certificate?)
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To: syriacus
But Kissinger was foreign born.

Which means he would have been passed over in the line of succession had it ever gotten that far. After the President pro tem of the Senate would have come the Secretary of the Treasury.

18 posted on 03/25/2009 5:43:09 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: agere_contra
If the Obama electoral ticket was invalid then Biden is no more President than I am.

The ticket would not be invalidated. Obama may be found ineligible but Biden is. Should that happen then Biden would be president. Just as if Obama had died or been impeached.

19 posted on 03/25/2009 5:44:41 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: AJMCQ

Its not going anywhere.
If, today, someone PROVED Obama was born in Kenya, was a citizen of Indonesia, etc., by tomorrow Congress would passed something to enable Obama to be President.
And most of the idiot ‘Pubbies would have voted for it.


20 posted on 03/25/2009 6:24:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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