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Does Dark Energy Really Exist?: Or does Earth occupy a very unusual place in the universe? (LOL!)
Scientific American ^ | March 2009 | Timothy Clifton and Pedro G. Ferreira

Posted on 03/29/2009 6:32:33 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Does Dark Energy Really Exist?

Or does Earth occupy a very unusual place in the universe?

Scientific American, March 2009

By Timothy Clifton and Pedro G. Ferreira

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Most of us are very familiar with the idea that our planet is nothing more than a tiny speck orbiting a typical star, somewhere near the edge of an otherwise unnoteworthy galaxy. In the midst of a universe populated by billions of galaxies that stretch out to our cosmic horizon, we are led to believe that there is nothing special or unique about our location. But what is the evidence for this cosmic humility? And how would we be able to tell if we were in a special place? Astronomers typically gloss over these questions, assuming our own typicality sufficiently obvious to warrant no further discussion. To entertain the notion that we may, in fact, have a special location in the universe is, for many, unthinkable. Nevertheless, that is exactly what some small groups of physicists around the world have recently been considering...

(Excerpt) Read more at sciam.com ...


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1 posted on 03/29/2009 6:32:34 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Finny; vladimir998; Coyoteman; allmendream; LeGrande; GunRunner; cacoethes_resipisco; ...
Just like the Evos have been forced to cut down Darwin's "tree of life" and declare that "Darwin Was Wrong"...

...the same thing is happening in the field of Evo-Cosmology. Needless to say, God-honoring creation scientists have been predicting this outcome on both fronts for some time now. For God's creation, which is sustained by His holy Word, resists evo-materialist explanations. As such, sooner or later, their vain man-centered descriptions of His wondrous creation will be forced to bow to His WORD:

Isaiah 55:8 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD. 9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts. 10 “For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven, And do not return there without watering the earth And making it bear and sprout, And furnishing seed to the sower and bread to the eater; 11 So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.

The Scientific American article above is of course just the beginning. As can be readily seen from the article, the evo-cosmologists are still committed to finding ways to paper-over the special home that God has created for us. But rest assured, the more they find out about our cosmic neigborhood, the more they will be forced to declare that we do indeed live in a very, very special place. It doesn't matter where the natural mind turns, in the end every aspect of creation sings HIS praises, so that when that final day comes, even those who specialize in cosmology will be without excuse:

"For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse."--Romans 1:20

If you are interested in finding a God-honoring cosmology, you might want to start here.

2 posted on 03/29/2009 6:33:14 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

In before the evo maniacs


3 posted on 03/29/2009 6:34:57 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Jim Robinson; P-Marlowe; Tailgunner Joe; Gordon Greene

Thought you guys might be interested. All the best—GGG


4 posted on 03/29/2009 6:35:09 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: valkyry1

Proof that creationists truly are the fittest! :o)


5 posted on 03/29/2009 6:37:06 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Have a blessed day!


6 posted on 03/29/2009 6:37:29 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; All

“Or does Earth occupy a very unusual place in the universe?”

Yes, Earth does occupy a very special place in the universe. If you’re curious, there is a DVD called, “The Priviledged Planet”

According to this DVD, Earth’s placement is unique and just a few degrees here or there, and we would look like Mars instead. It’s jaw-dropping to watch this video and realize how blessed we are.

I have always believed that God made planet Earth on purpose for humans to live, and it’s placement in the universe was no accident.


7 posted on 03/29/2009 6:42:25 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: CyberAnt

Amen sister! Always glad to meet new people on board the HMS Creation. All the best—GGG


8 posted on 03/29/2009 6:44:25 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I like this one...

http://www.privilegedplanet.com/


9 posted on 03/29/2009 6:44:41 PM PDT by ryan71 (TERM LIMITS!!!!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

*Quark*. Excuse me.

Srsly, tho. When (or if) I get to heaven......I have sooooooooo many questions to ask Him...and, quite frankly, I’m looking VERY forward to it.


10 posted on 03/29/2009 6:46:50 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Evolution happens. Every educated, conservative Freeper knows that. Mr. Darwin was correct.
11 posted on 03/29/2009 6:47:29 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: ryan71

I have own and have the book. Dr. Gonzalez was denied tenure for daring to think what the Evos have deemed “unthinkable”! Makes the blood boil...


12 posted on 03/29/2009 6:48:27 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

btt


13 posted on 03/29/2009 6:49:00 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: ExtremeUnction
Apparently you missed #2:

Even the Evos are abandoning the HMS Beagle.

14 posted on 03/29/2009 6:49:57 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: DallasMike

Thought you might be interested.

All the best—GGG


15 posted on 03/29/2009 6:51:04 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

But remember, atheists got the way they are because they have a kind of intelligence that elevates them above a whole lot of really dumb people.

Atheists are so smart they don’t even need to use their brains.


16 posted on 03/29/2009 6:51:57 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberals have neither the creativity nor the confidence to understand the truth of conservatism)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Of course dark matter exists, even though we can’t detect it in any way, we know it exists because if it doesn’t then that means that the scientists are wrong and we know that never happens.


17 posted on 03/29/2009 6:52:30 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: GodGunsGuts

With faith, no reach is too far.


18 posted on 03/29/2009 6:52:51 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Nevertheless, that is exactly what some small groups of physicists around the world have recently been considering...

There you go again, quoting real scientists.

19 posted on 03/29/2009 6:52:56 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

LOL...You had me going there for a second!


20 posted on 03/29/2009 6:53:23 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Sith lightning


21 posted on 03/29/2009 7:22:01 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Your’re not being fair to dark matter. Dark matter is like a cleaning deposit on a rental apartment. A deposit exists because it’s made but once made it cannot ever be seen.

Supposedly it has some effect on what is owed at the end of the rental but so far no one has been able to detect just what this effect is or how it works.

The truly scientific explanation is that the deposit helps to “keep our rents competitive” but how a rent called a deposit does this is beyond the understanding of the average layman.

So when anyone talks about dark matter just think of your last cleaning deposit.

And to the question of whether the earth occupies a special place: Just recall how the landlord treated you to get you to move in, not the eviction notice when you were three days late with the rent.


22 posted on 03/29/2009 7:23:38 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: CyberAnt
According to this DVD, Earth’s placement is unique and just a few degrees here or there, and we would look like Mars instead. It’s jaw-dropping to watch this video and realize how blessed we are.

The conundrum is that if it was a few dgrees here or there we wouldn't even know.

23 posted on 03/29/2009 7:27:28 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If Liberals would pay their taxes, there would be no deficit..)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Does Dark Energy Really Exist?

You bet your sweet patootie it does. It's alive and well in the White House.

24 posted on 03/29/2009 7:30:48 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Now that’s a good one!


25 posted on 03/29/2009 7:33:43 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
In the midst of a universe populated by billions of galaxies that stretch out to our cosmic horizon, we are led to believe that there is nothing special or unique about our location. But what is the evidence for this cosmic humility? And how would we be able to tell if we were in a special place?

Observations, study, research, and more observations, repeating this process millions of times over many years. Technological advances assist in substantiating theories based on those observations, research and study.

26 posted on 03/29/2009 7:33:47 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: GodGunsGuts
If the third human on earth did NOT come from the first two.. then it would take a very creative science fiction to explain him/her..

Science fiction MUST be very logical...
Reality need not be so logical.. (nothing to prove)..

27 posted on 03/29/2009 7:35:13 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: count-your-change

Please come down from the mountain and help me understand what a cleaning deposit has to do with dark matter!


28 posted on 03/29/2009 7:45:06 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: hosepipe

Perhaps the first, second and third all evolved independently. How’s that for science fiction!


29 posted on 03/29/2009 7:49:51 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Sorry, GGG. I’m not as qualified in astrophysics to argue any of the points in this article. Rain check?


30 posted on 03/29/2009 8:01:32 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To: FormerRep

OK, but as soon as it stops raining, I expect answers!


31 posted on 03/29/2009 8:03:10 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Can you add me to your ping list?

Here is a terrific website on creation topics:

http://www.creationsafaris.com/crev200903.htm


32 posted on 03/29/2009 8:03:40 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

You’re in...and welcome to the HMS Creation! And you are quite correct, I post articles from Creation Safaris/CEH on a regular basis. Indeed, if you ever post an article from there, be sure to ping me and I’ll ping it to the list. All the best—GGG


33 posted on 03/29/2009 8:18:21 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; TenthAmendmentChampion
You’re in...and welcome to the HMS Creation!

There's a reason I never asked to be on the ping list. I look at them occasionally, but soon a certain group will pile on and spew nasty personal attacks under the guise of intellectualism.

Here's a hint for them. If you're right, you can afford to be gracious; if you're wrong, you can't afford not to be gracious.

34 posted on 03/29/2009 8:27:23 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: GodGunsGuts

Earth-centered bump! :o)


35 posted on 03/29/2009 8:28:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: ExtremeUnction

I am an educated conservative FReeper. I believe Darwin was correct about evolution in about the same way Ptolemy was correct about astronomy. He got a few of the largest details generally right, and that’s about it.


36 posted on 03/29/2009 8:39:43 PM PDT by behzinlea
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house of cards wobbles a little more......


37 posted on 03/29/2009 8:40:54 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: GodGunsGuts

I have no idea but it seemed like a good comment and if you’re going get picky about relevance of comments to the article there is going to be very little commentary.

Of course I didn’t see much connection of dark matter with the special place earth occupies either but then I’m not a writer for S A.

From The Mountain, Cheers!


38 posted on 03/29/2009 8:48:00 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

A direct quote from paragraph 3:

A giant void strikes most cosmologists.


39 posted on 03/29/2009 9:10:40 PM PDT by Colinsky
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To: Colinsky

A direct quote from Psalm 14:1:

. . . There is no God.


40 posted on 03/29/2009 10:11:55 PM PDT by slimemold
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To: Grizzled Bear
==a certain group will pile on and spew nasty personal attacks under the guise of intellectualism.

Even if this only happens once, it will all be worth it :o)


41 posted on 03/29/2009 10:22:20 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
[ Perhaps the first, second and third all evolved independently. How’s that for science fiction! ]

Thats quite a Yarn...

42 posted on 03/29/2009 10:24:23 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

Perhaps that’s why the Evos always get so tangled up :o)


43 posted on 03/29/2009 10:26:19 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: slimemold

“. . . There is no God.”

I assume that you’re being sarcastic rather than obtuse. And that you know the quote from Psalms regards what:

“The fool hath said in his heart...”


44 posted on 03/29/2009 10:32:55 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I thought this was the new phrase to discuss ACORN and the White house now...
45 posted on 03/29/2009 10:36:22 PM PDT by surfer
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To: GodGunsGuts
I was bored the other day, so the mutant dogfish finally got what he had coming.


46 posted on 03/29/2009 10:38:11 PM PDT by Fichori (The only bailout I'm interested in is the one where the entire Democrat party leaves the county)
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To: ExtremeUnction
“Evolution happens. Every educated, conservative Freeper knows that. Mr. Darwin was correct.”
Just because you ‘know’ something, does not automatically make it true.

47 posted on 03/29/2009 10:42:38 PM PDT by Fichori (The only bailout I'm interested in is the one where the entire Democrat party leaves the county)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


48 posted on 03/29/2009 11:00:00 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: CyberAnt
I have always believed that God made planet Earth on purpose for humans to live, and it’s placement in the universe was no accident.

Humans evolved on Earth, they are adapted to its environment. It will naturally seem that Earth was made for them, when in fact they were made (adapted) for the Earth.

Anyway, not all of Earth is suitable for humans. The seas are not suitable, underground is not suitable, only the land surface is. And some land is too cold, some is too hot. Like other species, humans occupy the niche they are evolved for.

Finally, even though humans evolved on Earth and are fit to live in it, it is not true to say that Earth is a particularly pleasant place to be. Certainly it could be much better. God might have created a world without mosquitoes or other biting insects, without diseases and parasites, with more edible plants, a milder climate, and fewer predators. The fact that all of these hazards exist, that life is in fact a "Darwinian struggle" rather than a Garden of Eden, shows that no benevolent God created Earth - rather Earth evolved species in competition with one another, of which humans are one.

49 posted on 03/30/2009 3:30:09 AM PDT by tvdog12345
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To: GodGunsGuts

Y’know, bearing false witness is a sin. You’ve repeatedly put that graphic of the cover of New Scientist in your posts and linked it to the idea that it refers to a fundamental undermining of evolutionary theory by new thinking in science.

The following from inside the magazine states:

“As we celebrate the 200th anniversary of Darwin’s birth, we await a third revolution that will see biology changed and strengthened. None of this should give succour to creationists, whose blinkered universe is doubtless already buzzing with the news that “New Scientist has announced Darwin was wrong”. Expect to find excerpts ripped out of context and presented as evidence that biologists are deserting the theory of evolution en masse. They are not.”

I think they were talking about people like you.


50 posted on 03/30/2009 3:39:47 AM PDT by Natufian (The mesolithic wasn't so bad, was it?)
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