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Obama’s Ersatz Capitalism (Bank Bailout Plan Means Taxpayers Lose - MUST READ)
NYT ^ | 4/1/2009 | Joseph Stiglitz

Posted on 04/01/2009 9:08:59 AM PDT by mojito

THE Obama administration’s $500 billion or more proposal to deal with America’s ailing banks has been described by some in the financial markets as a win-win-win proposal. Actually, it is a win-win-lose proposal: the banks win, investors win — and taxpayers lose.

Treasury hopes to get us out of the mess by replicating the flawed system that the private sector used to bring the world crashing down, with a proposal marked by overleveraging in the public sector, excessive complexity, poor incentives and a lack of transparency.

Let’s take a moment to remember what caused this mess in the first place. Banks got themselves, and our economy, into trouble by overleveraging — that is, using relatively little capital of their own, they borrowed heavily to buy extremely risky real estate assets. In the process, they used overly complex instruments like collateralized debt obligations....

The government plan in effect involves insuring almost all losses. Since the private investors are spared most losses, then they primarily “value” their potential gains. This is exactly the same as being given an option.

Consider an asset that has a 50-50 chance of being worth either zero or $200 in a year’s time. The verage “value” of the asset is $100. Ignoring interest, this is what the asset would sell for in a competitive market. It is what the asset is “worth.” Under the plan by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, the government would provide about 92 percent of the money to buy the asset but would stand to receive only 50 percent of any gains, and would absorb almost all of the losses. Some partnership!

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: bankbailout; geithner; obama; ppip
A clear and concise discussion of the bank bailout plan.

If the NYT is running this, the plan must actually be scaring some people in the Dem establishment.

1 posted on 04/01/2009 9:09:00 AM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Time to start considering a new nationality, I’m afraid.


2 posted on 04/01/2009 9:10:24 AM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: mojito

“Actually, it is a win-win-lose proposal: the banks win, investors win — and taxpayers lose.”

I don’t know how he figures this—taxpayers ARE investors!


3 posted on 04/01/2009 9:20:01 AM PDT by GWMcClintock ("When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Ps. 11:3)
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To: mojito

Stiglitz is a liberal as is Krugman. They both are trashing the obama/geithner plan because they know it will not work, has been put together by the same Goldman Sachs crowd that started the mess. They know if/when the public finds out that Wall St has paid off the Dems even more than the Republicans, the libs will have hell to pay.


4 posted on 04/01/2009 9:22:52 AM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: milwguy

the obama/geithner plan protects the interest of banks over the interest of tax payers. IF government subsidies or bail out banks, thats not capitalism, thats socialism


5 posted on 04/01/2009 9:38:03 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: prismsinc

nowhere to run.....nowhere to hide....


6 posted on 04/01/2009 9:41:37 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: mojito

Obama should have taken economics at Columbia.


7 posted on 04/01/2009 11:00:16 AM PDT by rmlew ( The SAVE and GIVE acts are institutioning Corvee. Where's the outtrage!)
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To: mojito

We’re screwed.


8 posted on 04/01/2009 12:21:12 PM PDT by happygrl (BORG: Barack 0bama Resistance Group: we will not be assimilated)
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To: mojito

As long as congressional and senate pension plans are safe... that’s all that really matters! /sarc


9 posted on 04/01/2009 1:22:16 PM PDT by PsyOp (Put government in charge of tire pressure, and we'll soon have a shortage of air. - PsyOp.)
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To: mojito

We, in this country, have the habit of making the same people rich over and over at taxpayer expense. Usually it comes in the form of sports stadiums and useless clover-leafs.

Obama is merely expanding the practice.


10 posted on 04/01/2009 1:24:33 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: rmlew

What was his major?


11 posted on 04/01/2009 3:47:29 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Political Science with a focus on international relations.


12 posted on 04/01/2009 11:59:51 PM PDT by rmlew ( The SAVE and GIVE acts are institutioning Corvee. Where's the outtrage!)
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To: rmlew

Thank you. That’s pretty good timimg too! My guess was Political Science, but I should have made it known.


13 posted on 04/02/2009 12:25:48 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

thanks neverdem.

Class War in America
The American Thinker | April 01, 2009 | Richard Baehr
Posted on 04/01/2009 3:24:01 AM PDT by Scanian
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2219630/posts


14 posted on 04/02/2009 3:00:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: 4rcane
the obama/geithner plan protects the interest of banks over the interest of tax payers.

Actually, it's mainly protecting the interests of the banks' creditors at shareholder expense.

15 posted on 04/02/2009 4:49:29 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: GWMcClintock
I don’t know how he figures this—taxpayers ARE investors!

What he means is that it's protecting, at the expense of taxpayers, the people who invested in the banks before the crisis. He doesn't go into this much detail, but it's primarily the bondholders who are getting bailed out.

16 posted on 04/02/2009 4:51:41 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: mojito
"If the NYT is running this, the plan must actually be scaring some people in the Dem establishment."

It should be scaring the piss out of all of them. (it sure does me) You have to go to Zimbabwe to find the kind of inflation this represents.

17 posted on 04/02/2009 4:55:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: anniegetyourgun
"nowhere to run.....nowhere to hide...."

I ran and hid in gold about two years ago. I should have run sooner.

18 posted on 04/02/2009 4:57:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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