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Rick Warren Disavows Support for Prop. 8
Onenewsnow.com ^ | April 8, 2009 | Jim Brown

Posted on 04/08/2009 3:21:28 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta

California mega-church pastor and author of The Purpose Driven Life Rick Warren says he apologized to his homosexual friends for making comments in support of California's Proposition 8, and now claims he "never once even gave an endorsement" of the marriage amendment.

Pastor Rick WarrenMonday night on CNN's Larry King Live, Pastor Rick Warren apologized for his support of Prop. 8, California's voter-approved marriage protection amendment, saying he has "never been and never will be" an "anti-gay or anti-gay marriage activist."

"During the whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement, never -- never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop. 8 was going," Warren told the CNN audience on Monday. "The week before the -- the vote, somebody in my church said, 'Pastor Rick, what -- what do you think about this?' And I sent a note to my own members that said, I actually believe that marriage is -- really should be defined, that that definition should be -- say between a man and a woman."

However, just two weeks before the November 4 Prop. 8 vote, Pastor Warren issued a clear endorsement of the marriage amendment while speaking to church members. "We support Proposition 8 -- and if you believe what the Bible says about marriage, you need to support Proposition 8," he said.

The following is a complete transcript of Warren's comments just weeks before the Prop. 8 election:

"The election's coming just in a couple of weeks, and I hope you're praying about your vote. One of the propositions, of course, that I want to mention is Proposition 8, which is the proposition that had to be instituted because the courts threw out the will of the people. And a court of four guys actually voted to change a definition of marriage that has been going for 5,000 years.

"Now let me say this really clearly: we support Proposition 8 -- and if you believe what the Bible says about marriage, you need to support Proposition 8. I never support a candidate, but on moral issues I come out very clear.

"This is one thing, friends, that all politicians tend to agree on. Both Barack Obama and John McCain, I flat-out asked both of them: what is your definition of marriage? And they both said the same thing -- it is the traditional, historic, universal definition of marriage: one man and one woman, for life. And every culture for 5,000 years, and every religion for 5,000 years, has said the definition of marriage is between one man and a woman.

"Now here's an interesting thing. There are about two percent of Americans [who] are homosexual or gay/lesbian people. We should not let two percent of the population determine to change a definition of marriage that has been supported by every single culture and every single religion for 5,000 years.

"This is not even just a Christian issue -- it's a humanitarian and human issue that God created marriage for the purpose of family, love, and procreation.

"So I urge you to support Proposition 8, and pass that word on. I'm going to be sending out a note to pastors on what I believe about this. But everybody knows what I believe about it. They heard me at the Civil Forum when I asked both Obama and McCain on their views."

During his CNN interview on Monday, Warren expressed regret for backing Prop. 8. "There were a number of things that were put out. I wrote to all my gay friends -- the leaders that I knew -- and actually apologized to them. That never got out," he admitted.

Additionally, Pastor Warren said he did not want to comment on or criticize the Iowa Supreme Court's decision last week to legalize same-sex "marriage" because it was "not his agenda."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: pastor; prop8; proposition8; rickwarren; saddleback; samesexmarriage; sin
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To: Son-Joshua

You can’t claim Jesus and then dance on the fence.


41 posted on 04/08/2009 4:31:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Terriergal; wendelmyer

ping


42 posted on 04/08/2009 4:34:33 PM PDT by Blogger (It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. - Ben Franklin)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Rick: choose one.

God or Manna

43 posted on 04/08/2009 4:43:05 PM PDT by Popman (One useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three is a Congress - John Adams)
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To: who knows what evil?
A false prophet...

And an APOSTATE! What Rick Warren says means NOTHING - if God says it's wrong and the Bible says it's wrong, then IT'S WRONG!!!

44 posted on 04/08/2009 5:03:11 PM PDT by Florida native
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Where have the men with courage and conviction gone? All we have left are frauds and wimps.


45 posted on 04/08/2009 5:10:12 PM PDT by Conan the Conservative (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the hippies.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

warren lost all my respect when he played soft ball interviewing Hillary (pro - baby killer) he let the ‘above my pay scale “ comment go for obamas answer to when life begins.

seems warren is too freindly with baby killer. now this gay thing. I dont like him one bit, damn liberal he is.


46 posted on 04/08/2009 5:24:58 PM PDT by dhm914
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I am thrilled that I resisted many urges by well-meaning Christian friends to read his crappy book.

Someone must have some pictures of him in a “wide stance”.

Mrs. AV


47 posted on 04/08/2009 5:39:49 PM PDT by Atomic Vomit (Vim Toot!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
So what kind of photos of Rick Warren are in someones collection to bring this on...
48 posted on 04/08/2009 5:46:02 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Sick SOB.


49 posted on 04/08/2009 5:54:44 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Star Traveler
Here's a pretty good prayer song
50 posted on 04/08/2009 7:56:51 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: yongin
Then what is Rick Warren’s agenda?

Mammon.

51 posted on 04/08/2009 8:24:55 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Ann Archy
NEVER trust a man that wears a goattee like his....he looks dirty and he SEEMS to be a PHONY.

Seems?

52 posted on 04/08/2009 8:27:26 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Who is Rick Warren? A pastor or a politician? Sounds like he's the latter. A true Man Of God does not ditch deeply held beliefs when they become politically incorrect. Warren did just that - I guess Christianity can be thrown out of the window to remain "relevant."

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

53 posted on 04/08/2009 8:33:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Rick Warren Disavows Support for Prop. 8

Did he do it three times?

54 posted on 04/08/2009 8:39:13 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

"So I urge you to support Proposition 8, and pass that word on. I'm going to be sending out a note to pastors on what I believe about this. But everybody knows what I believe about it. They heard me at the Civil Forum when I asked both Obama and McCain on their views."

During his CNN interview on Monday, Warren expressed regret for backing Prop. 8. "There were a number of things that were put out. I wrote to all my gay friends -- the leaders that I knew -- and actually apologized to them. That never got out," he admitted.

..he's all over the map. His whole ministry has been based on marketing--not offending the potential customer...

55 posted on 04/09/2009 7:35:50 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

A pox on Rick Warren’s house. He’s a Pharisee—sold out to Caesar and a son of the devil. May any honest believers left in his church get out.


56 posted on 04/09/2009 7:47:56 AM PDT by farmer18th (If you preach "too big to let fail," you're also preaching "too small to let succeed.")
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To: Blogger

He must be more careful, his true colors are showing.


57 posted on 04/12/2009 5:59:25 PM PDT by wendelmyer
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