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PajamasMedia: Klavan on the Culture ^ | March 31, 2009 | Andrew Klavan

Posted on 04/10/2009 12:14:51 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla

My first video commentary is now available:

See it here


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: andrewklavan; klavan; rino; tactics; teaparty
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To: meandog; Avoiding_Sulla
A “Klavan” is where KKK members hang out...no thanks!

That would be klaven.

21 posted on 04/10/2009 3:29:37 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: papasmurf
Isn’t, or wasn’t, he a writer at LA Times?

He recently wrote an editorial that was published by the LA Times but I am not sure if he is on staff. The article was challenging people who hate Rush to actually listen to him before they made up their minds.

22 posted on 04/10/2009 4:00:38 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: NTHockey
Why are politicians allowed to speak at our protests on April 15? They are the problem and now they want to steal some of the limelight.

The Tax Day Tea Party I am involved with has asked ALL politicians to stay away. We are just trying to get people excited about the Founding Fathers and the principles on which this country was founded. The problem with including any politicians...well...it gets political. You and I probably don't agree on who the best GOP leader is. In 2008 I supported Romney on FR on got all kinds of names thrown at me. My conservative credentials were questioned, etc. Right now I just want to start at ground zero: The Bail-Out was immoral. The current Budget is Immoral. I want to go back to the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. You would not believe how full of crap things get when ever the wanna-bees around the politicians get involved. There are some absolutely HORRIBLE people who hang around politicians. Parasites.

23 posted on 04/10/2009 4:07:42 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Zevonismymuse

I could not agree with you more. Romney was not my cup of tea (pun intended), but hey, you are entitled to your opinion. That’s what made America great.

Today, politicians and their toadies are only interested in two things: 1)reelection and 2)image. Principles and ethics are about 98-99 on the list.


24 posted on 04/10/2009 7:24:56 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: meandog

A “Klavan” is where KKK members hang out...no thanks!

Gotta call Bravo Sierra on the above.

What you meant was “klavern”, not klavan.

A 1960’s song was titled “Is there a Klavern in your town?”.

It had a line about some of the members “Got so much cash, now, by Gum, we’re rich white trash”.

Needless to say, Sen. Byrd is not amused.

Pity.


25 posted on 04/10/2009 9:07:22 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Klavan : “ ... listen to the people they don’t want you to listen to. And whatever you do, don’t shut up.”

Excellent advice!


26 posted on 04/10/2009 9:51:39 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: All

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Klavan

Andrew Klavan (born 1954 in New York City) is an American author and screenwriter of “tough-guy” mysteries and psychological thrillers. Two of Klavan’s books have been adapted into motion pictures: True Crime (1999) and Don’t Say A Word (2001). He has been nominated for the Edgar Award four times and has won twice. Playwright and novelist Laurence Klavan is his brother.[1]

Early life

Klavan’s father was Gene Klavan, a New York disk jockey and one-half of the radio show “Klavan and Finch.”

(snip)

Political philosophy

Identifying himself as a political conservative, Klavan has expressed the view that “rightists” are the victims of discrimination in Hollywood.[3] In July 2008 he likened George W. Bush to Batman in The Dark Knight, starting with their public vilification.[4] Klavan compared “left-wing” realistic films and “conservative” fantasy films as genres that comment explicitly or metaphorically on martial values.


27 posted on 04/10/2009 9:56:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Message to conservatives at Tea Parties and all other functions: Do not allow “liberals” (in whatever disguise they show up in) shut you up.

Mother of all pings!

28 posted on 04/10/2009 10:52:31 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: NTHockey
Principles and ethics are about 98-99 on the list.

And that is a list of 100!

29 posted on 04/11/2009 8:01:51 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
A reply I often use in our local newspaper forum when their argument (as it often does) boils down to "shut up."

No, I won't shut up, but thanks for asking!
30 posted on 04/11/2009 9:39:35 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: SoldierDad
I have one thing to say to this idiot - STFU&GTH

I'm guessing you didn't watch the video?

31 posted on 04/11/2009 4:35:12 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for filling in the blanks. (again! :))


32 posted on 04/11/2009 8:21:57 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

You’re welcome. But I must confess it was done out of self protection. I followed your link, posted my first comment about liking the video, and then started to read posts that talked about the KKK. My stomach dropped (”Egads! did I just compliment a Wht Suprmcst?) LOL. I was happy to read his biography and find that those posts were bogus.


33 posted on 04/11/2009 8:24:29 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

You think YOU were unsettled? I posted it! LOL.

I didn’t bother checking because he’s a regular at pjmedia and they’d be even more embarrassed, so I figured he was okay.

Still, I was a bit deflated even though I suspected the first poster was simply ruffing a sophomoric pun from the near homophone of Klavan’s name. Take note of my question to him at number 13.

Whether or not the doubt invoked by this “joke” was intentional or not, I think how you and I (and who knows how many others) is exactly the effect disruptors aim to create. There is always a chance that it indeed was a defensive measure by a resident establishmentarian type looking to diminish his Klavan’s apt message.

In reality, I think, it demonstrates the kind of self-inflicted “shut up” establishment types have counted upon for years. I think it is time for a change in our responses. You made it easier to do so. So thanks again for making the facts clear.


34 posted on 04/11/2009 8:49:00 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: calcowgirl

I think how you and I (and who knows how many others) were affected....


35 posted on 04/11/2009 8:50:33 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
You think YOU were unsettled? I posted it! LOL.

LOL! Good point!

Whether or not the doubt invoked by this “joke” was intentional or not, I think how you and I (and who knows how many others) is exactly the effect disruptors aim to create.... In reality, I think, it demonstrates the kind of self-inflicted “shut up” establishment types have counted upon for years. I think it is time for a change in our responses.

Yup! I agree.

So thanks again for making the facts clear.

No problem! Just doin't my part. I always enjoy your posts. :-)

P.S.... I am now reminded that I had some history to study and didn't get back to that (re: screenname). So many things to do, so little time!

36 posted on 04/11/2009 9:01:51 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: lonestar; calcowgirl; grandpa jones; Carry_Okie; papasmurf; Zevonismymuse
I should have found this answer to "who is Andrew Klavan?" last week, but better late than never. :)

Several of you had bits and pieces of the picture, so I have pinged you to fill you in on the rest.

From http://pajamasmedia.com/andrewklavan/2009/02/18/welcome/


37 posted on 04/17/2009 10:14:30 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
We must fight them in the movies, we must fight them in the novels, we must fight them in the music videos. We must never surrender!

This is key. We have to beat them at their own game. Your school teachers were wrong when they told you, "This is not a popularity contest!" Everything is a popularity contest. We need to be cool and likable. We need to lead the fun parade, and we can do it while adhering to our core values and principles.

I heard Andrew Klavan speak a few weeks ago and he is an excellent example of someone who is cool and conservative. I ordered Empire of Lies because I am voting with my dollars. I engage in commerce with people who are good for America and I withhold dollars from anti-America types. I have always done this but I am doing it with increased gusto and encouraging my less intense friends to do the same.

Being Cool at the SB Tax Protest

38 posted on 04/18/2009 6:59:48 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Zevonismymuse

great video!


39 posted on 04/19/2009 10:56:42 AM PDT by grandpa jones (obama must be exhausted...having to tote that giant brain of his around all the time)
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