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Obama creates infighting at Notre Dame
Star Tribune ^ | April 11, 2009 | Dirk JOHNSON,

Posted on 04/12/2009 2:03:59 PM PDT by NYer

SOUTH BEND, IND.

As church bells pealed, Claire Gillen, a Notre Dame freshman, stood on the stone steps of the Basilica of the Sacred Heart, accusing this fabled Roman Catholic institution of sin and sacrilege.

"It's a scandal," said Gillen, voicing outrage over the university's invitation to President Obama, a supporter of abortion rights, to deliver the commencement address here on May 17.

Some alumni have called the campus, saying they have thrown away their Fighting Irish sweatshirts in disgust. The local bishop, John D'Arcy, has vowed to boycott the graduation ceremony. A visiting high school senior, Halley Chavey, who said she was thrilled just weeks ago to be accepted for admission, said she might reject the offer because the university is hosting "the most pro-abortion president we've ever had."

But for all the high-pitched indignation, the talk among students and faculty on this gothic campus of towering oaks and sculpted saints seems to reveal a strikingly upbeat mood about Obama's visit.

"Most of us are like, 'Wow, the president of the United States is coming,'" said Brett Ensor, a Texas native who belongs to the Knights of Columbus, opposes abortion and voted for the Republican candidate, Sen. John McCain. "What college wouldn't want Obama to come? This is a tremendous honor for us."

Threatened protests of the president's visit -- some conservative groups on campus have promised to stage demonstrations -- have left liberal students, like Max Young, cringing over the portrayal of Notre Dame as insulated and narrow-minded.

"If you can't speak openly at Notre Dame, who's going to want to come here?" said Young, a supporter of abortion rights, who noted that Catholic teaching endorses many of Obama's views, especially when it comes to aiding the poor and immigrants. "President Obama is one of us. He's on our side."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: bhoabortion; ndu; obama
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1 posted on 04/12/2009 2:03:59 PM PDT by NYer
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About 97 percent of seniors who have sent letters to the school newspaper, The Observer, support Obama as the commencement speaker, said the editor, Jenn Metz. Letters from alumni, however, have overwhelming opposed his appearance.

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2 posted on 04/12/2009 2:05:43 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

“About 97 percent of seniors who have sent letters to the school newspaper, The Observer, support Obama as the commencement speaker, said the editor, Jenn Metz. Letters from alumni, however, have overwhelming opposed his appearance.”

Once again proving most college students are stupid.


3 posted on 04/12/2009 2:07:29 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

Good. There needs to be more infighting with the real educated Christians and the posers that use the Christian Institutions for the spread of their propaganda.


4 posted on 04/12/2009 2:07:59 PM PDT by tobyhill ("Hope and Change" is so overrated!)
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To: NYer
"Most of us are like, 'Wow, the president of the United States is coming,'" said Brett Ensor, a Texas native who belongs to the Knights of Columbus, opposes abortion and voted for the Republican candidate, Sen. John McCain. "What college wouldn't want Obama to come? This is a tremendous honor for us."

Uh, huh.

5 posted on 04/12/2009 2:22:08 PM PDT by scott7278 (Obama, Klaatu barada nikto!)
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To: NYer
Obama is unquestionably the most divisive political figure of our time.
6 posted on 04/12/2009 2:22:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Bow? What bow? I didn't bow.)
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To: NYer
Threatened protests of the president's visit -- some conservative groups on campus have promised to stage demonstrations -- have left liberal students, like Max Young, cringing over the portrayal of Notre Dame as insulated and narrow-minded.

"If you can't speak openly at Notre Dame, who's going to want to come here?" said Young, a supporter of abortion rights, who noted that Catholic teaching endorses many of Obama's views, especially when it comes to aiding the poor and immigrants. "President Obama is one of us. He's on our side."

Max seems to have glommed onto Cardinal Bernadin's 'Seamless Garment' notion, which has screwed up the Catholic Church in America for over 25 years. That's the only way a Catholic would think he could possibly be pro-abortion, and still be a good Catholic, because he also supports the poor and the immigrants. Oh, and I'm guessing he's also against the death penalty and the Iraq War.

7 posted on 04/12/2009 2:26:50 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: vladimir998

bump


8 posted on 04/12/2009 2:27:22 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: NYer

“President Obama is one of us. He’s on our side.”

That’s only because you’re already born...


9 posted on 04/12/2009 2:28:29 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Max Young...cringes over the portrayal of Notre Dame as "insulated and narrow-minded."

Yeah, opposing the killing of unborn children first through fourth trimester is "insulated and narrow minded." How pathetic, Max.

10 posted on 04/12/2009 2:29:23 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: NYer
It seems like Barry is actually helping the Catholic Church!

Consider the following questions:

Exactly what does it mean to be Catholic? More specifically, what does the Catholic Church teach? And why?

Can I accept the Catholic Church's teachings I like and reject the ones I dislike? If so, how many and which ones?

Do I have to do my best to obey the key doctrines of Catholicism? All of them or only a few? How much disobedience is permissible?

Does disbelief and disobedience carry any consequences for me? In this life? In the afterlife?

These questions are essential! And in my opiinion, the more they are discussed and debated, the better!
11 posted on 04/12/2009 2:30:21 PM PDT by Zakeet (Thou Shalt Not Steal -- Unless thou art the government)
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To: NYer

I think you will find that younger Catholics, those who are college age now, and especially those who went to public schools before NDU are sympathetic to Obama. Their indictrination was 12 years in the making.


12 posted on 04/12/2009 2:32:03 PM PDT by EDINVA ( A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: Zakeet

Yes, those are great questions. However, when Barry shows up and they give him awards and honors and lavish him with praise and 97% of the kids cheer for him, the bottom-line answer to all of those questions will be that Notre Dame (and, by implication, the American Catholic Church) no longer really cares about the evil of abortion.


13 posted on 04/12/2009 2:38:10 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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I wonder if he actually said that. If he did I’d have to guess he has multiple personalities.


14 posted on 04/12/2009 2:42:07 PM PDT by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: vladimir998
Once again proving most college students are stupid.

No ... it only proves they are still immature in their life experience and thought development.

15 posted on 04/12/2009 2:47:26 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

No reason he shouldn’t divide Notre Dame the same way he divided America. As for the 97% figure, that just indicates the left is louder...something that 40 years of their tantrums has made painfully clear.


16 posted on 04/12/2009 2:48:02 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: BenLurkin
Obama is unquestionably the most divisive political figure of our time.

That has to be the statement of the day!

17 posted on 04/12/2009 2:48:40 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: EDINVA

I absoluely agree! This is one of the reasons why I now use the Baltimore Catechism to instruct my religious education students.


18 posted on 04/12/2009 2:52:46 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

This is not a popularity contest. It’s Spiritual Warfare.

“Anybody who has used or advocates using a contraceptive knows when life begins.”


19 posted on 04/12/2009 2:53:54 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Constitution & Bill of Rights stand as a whole. Remove any part & nullify the whole.)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

The only good thing about 0 is him helping people by opening their eyes
and are rethinking or drifting toward God, that’s for sure.


20 posted on 04/12/2009 3:14:10 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Welcome to 0bama's America... Be afraid, be very afraid)
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