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1 posted on 04/13/2009 12:00:38 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Just wait - we’ll hear yet that the shot pirates were treated unfairly because they were really just misunderstood victims of racism and Western capitalism.


2 posted on 04/13/2009 12:22:59 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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Gun Bans for Your Health

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3 posted on 04/13/2009 12:44:47 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
It is possible that the author has it precisely wrong in his estimation of what motivates Obama. In reaction to a Victor David Hanson piece I posted this reply which speculates that there might well be huge difference in the foreign policy of a liberal who thinks he has power and those who court a Jimmy Carter type foreign policy as a means of obtaining power as a result of its very fecklessness:

Victor Davis Hanson: Europeanizing Europe. They may have got more than they bargained for [Obama]

Friday, March 13, 2009 3:51:46 PM · 7 of 7

We conservatives are in danger of misunderstanding Barak Obama's foreign policy. The general assumption here is that he is likely to conduct foreign policy like Jimmy Carter. I think he is far more likely to wage war like Trotsky and conduct foreign policy like Stalin.

Barak Obama is not a Dean Acheson liberal. He is a dedicated Marxist power monger. Normal leftists of the kind described by Victor David Hanson at his cocktail party in France are simply soft on the international forces of the left for the very simple reason that they are sympathetic with those leftist goals. There are many leftists in Europe as well as in America who are, if not sympathetic, at least tolerant of aggressive Islamic fascism because it produces chaos which they instinctively know opens opportunities to exploit for the introduction of socialist one world government. They are smugly confident that they can deal with the Mohammedens after the chaos caused by their jihad opens the way for leftist world government.

But note, Barak Obama already has power and he is on the very brink of obtaining power of the kind enjoyed by the likes of Hugo Chavez. If one accepts that Barak Obama is a Manchurian Marxist, then it is inescapable that he seeks personal power unrestrained by democracy or human rights to do all the good that he alone sees must be done. Such a man calculates how to get the power he covets. American history has never offered a megalomaniac such a perfect storm to exploit to gain that power. Washington might have had it, but he was not a megalomaniac. Abraham Lincoln, with all his faults and with all his trampling on the Constitution, never lost his patriotism and never abandoned his fidelity to the principles of democracy. So in the midst of our tragic civil war, Lincoln preserved his essential humility. Franklin Roosevelt was never burdened by too much humility but he lacked the worldview, possessed for example by Adolf Hitler and, one speculates, Barak Obama, which drives a president to exploit a financial crisis and a world war to attain ultimate power. Roosevelt was a fixer first, an egomaniac, an elitist liberal, and a man who enjoyed manipulating the levers of power, almost as a hobby. He was certainly high-handed but he was not prone to be an autocrat.

Barak Obama certainly is obsessed with an ideology which propels him toward autocracy, a degree from Seoul Alinsky's School for Scoundrels provides him with the modus operandi , the financial crisis provides him with the opportunity, and the absence of political opposition makes it all possible.

Now if this is Obama's state of mind why would a man grasping for ultimate power tolerate a repugnant ideology, such as aggressive fundamentalist Islam, competing for that power?

Virtually all leftists in all of history have not been supine in the face of challenges to Leftism. Leftists care only about casualties in war when those wars are waged in defense of democracy or in opposition to Leftism. One need no better proof of this principle than the flip-flops of the American Communist party pivoting around the Hitler- Stalin pact. The left has been willing to extravagantly sacrifice the blood of its sons and daughters in defense of its own power or in the acquisition of that power. The historical examples are are numerous: the Russian Revolution after 1918 and the bloodbaths in its civil war against the White Russians; Stalin's murder of upwards of 10 million Kulaks in Ukraine to extend his authority there; the unbelievable casualties sustained by the Russian army in ultimately beating the Germans; the suicide attacks by the Communist Chinese in the Korean War mirroring the same suicide tactics Stalin resorted to against the Nazis; Mao's deliberately sacrificing his own troops against both Chiang Kai-shek and the Japanese to further his own power; the indifference of the authorities around Ho Chi Minh to the casualties sustained by the civilian population of North Vietnam, or to the astronomical casualties sustained at the front in pursuit of the conquest of the South; the bloodthirstiness of the Khmer Rouge in murdering 25 to 33% of their own people in Cambodia.

If Obama is in fact a committed Marxist but one who shrinks from violence in obtaining or preserving power, he will be exceptional among the breed. There are a few such as Gorbachev but his forbearance occurred in the context of a dead ideology. I believe that it is more likely than not that Obama would wage war against any threats to his power whether domestic or foreign. Obama has it within him to stun the left by his aggressiveness. In fact, I think we're seeing this already in his tardiness in withdrawing from Iraq and his doubling down on the war in Afghanistan. His objection to Iraq occurred before he had power. His diplomatic overtures in the Middle East primarily endanger Israel, not his own power.

Of course, this projection of bellicosity by Obama makes for the ultimate irony especially for the European left described so vividly by Victor David Hanson because an ideologue like Barak Obama is far, far more likely to pitch the world into war than a civilized Christian like George Bush ever was. George Bush, contrary to all fulminations of leftist crazies like Naomi Wolf alleging fascism in his soul, has proved as willing as Cincinnatus or George Washington to walk away from power.

I cannot imagine Barak Obama doing the same.


4 posted on 04/13/2009 1:21:31 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: neverdem
He got it right for the rescue, but he is getting it wrong for bringing the one pirate here...for trial. Hope they read him his Miranda.

Dump his butt in Kenya and let them take care of him.

8 posted on 04/13/2009 4:55:20 AM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: neverdem; calcowgirl; fieldmarshaldj; KDD; dools007; djsherin; ken21; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ..
RE :”Obama reacted the way a US president should, by letting the Navy and FBI act. In this single moment, Obama became Obushma. Because that's how George W. Bush would have acted. That's how the British Navy would have acted in its heyday. It's how freedom of the seas has been protected for two centuries..... In the end it's the conservative principles that count, because those principles help us to survive and be a healthy nation in the real world.

I don't think this message is going to sell, that everything Obama does right is what GWB would have done, conservatism. That makes TARP1 and the stimulus package right. I know this is the Hannity/Levin message but it sounds lame after the past two years of GWB/Pelosi socialism.

In fact it's problematic politically because Obama is not acting as bad as was predicted by talk radio on military related actions.

9 posted on 04/13/2009 5:09:49 AM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: neverdem

I’m famous!!!! Wait.........how does the author know so much about me? Hmmm..............


14 posted on 04/13/2009 6:15:45 AM PDT by Obushma (Obama=Bush 3rd Term!)
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To: neverdem
OK, conservatives, here's a plan.

I’ll pass on this plan. Comparing the pos usurper currently residing in the people’s house to President George W. Bush, makes my skin crawl. That thing is not fit to kiss President Bush’s arse. Praising and slobbering all over him for common sense and the most basic principle of the presidency, protecting American citizens, is absurd.

Also, according to some non-enemedia reports and the presser held after the rescue, the Commander did not need a permission slip from the people’s house in order to save the hostage. It is only in the after the fact fawning enemedia we hear reports of the "heroic" leadership from the usurper. That in and of itself should be a clue. The “imminent danger“ caveat was the key to the stand off. Captain Phillips was in imminent danger the moment the pirates were permitted to board the ship.

According to Blackfive:
The standing authority gave them clearance to engage the pirates if the life of the captain was in imminent danger. The on scene commander deemed this to be true and gave the order to fire.
This was not a rescue attempt ordered by National Command Authority i.e. the President. It was a reaction by the on scene commander under standard authority to safeguard the life of a hostage.

And from the presser:
Navy Seals and other officers opened fire on three pirates when a Navy commander made a split-second decision that an American hostage's life was in danger...
Gortney said the White House had given "very clear guidance and authority" that if any time the commander Capt. Phillips' life was in danger to take action to make sure it was not...

16 posted on 04/13/2009 7:06:11 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: neverdem
That's the power of media, to tell the public narrative, to be the Greek Chorus in the drama of state. The New Media can do it at least as well as the decrepit old ones.

A newspaper is not just for reporting news, it's to get people mad enough to do something about it.
Name the author of that quote.

18 posted on 04/13/2009 7:37:45 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: neverdem
We've got the biggest ally in the world, called Reality.

God's Natural Laws are not friendly to liberalism.

19 posted on 04/13/2009 7:38:43 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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(Remember, Jimmy is still totally enraged by his defeat by Ronald Reagan in 1980. If Obama is defeated in 2012 he'll keep the Left on the broil for years to come, trying to make a comeback. Hillary and every other ambitious Democrat will fight him. It could easily shatter the Democrats for decades to come.)

Poor conclusion based on history. The Dems have NEVER tolerated a loser, and have chucked them under the bus every time. You get one chance. Johnson didn't even try to run, Humphrey lost and never got even close to a second chance, ditto McGovern, Mondale, Gore and Kerry.

Obama will end up just like Carter, not even his own party will take him seriously.

27 posted on 04/13/2009 9:08:16 AM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: neverdem

When he says “conservatives” lost the primary election to John McCain, has anyone ever calculated how many Democrat crossover votes in open primaries went to McCain?

That is, a LOT of Democrats didn’t care who won the Democrat primary, because all the candidates were leftists. So they felt free to instead bias the *open* Republican primaries against conservative candidates by voting for McCain.

So for the first election ever, Democrats nominated Obama *and* McCain, effectively locking the Republicans out of the election entirely.

If *anything* elected Obama, it was John McCain. Because there was *no* alternative to a liberal candidate.

And that just wasn’t fair.

Yes, a lot of Republicans crossed over as well, because they truly hated and feared Hillary Clinton. But in the final analysis, just voting for the lesser of two evils, you still end up voting for evil.


32 posted on 04/13/2009 10:44:45 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Thanks neverdem for this topic, and thanks Ernest and martin for these: here's a little autopatting of my back:
To: Talisker

Someone up there said, its not filled with air, so popping it won’t work. Overturning it would work. So would sniper bullets.

188 posted on 04/11/2009 8:17:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)


46 posted on 04/13/2009 2:09:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: neverdem
I heard this morning some crap about getting at the "root causes" of piracy and some bs about sending American aid to the "underpriviledged" area, presumably on the grounds that once they have enough gitas to buy cold soft drinks and color TVs they'll have no incentive to rove the seas in search of prey.

What a pantload, eh?

Given the situation there was no other outcome to this scenario. The U.S. Navy and the U.S. Marine Corps made their bones fighting piracy.

The fraudulent administration had no choice.

If Zero gives any money to these 17th century bucaneers he'll lose (or loose, as some Freepers like to say) whatever small piece of goodwill he gained from the resue effort.

97 posted on 04/14/2009 9:25:17 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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