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Plant Evolution: Where’s the Root? ("Lack of data...shielded behind hope")
CEH ^ | April 16, 2009

Posted on 04/18/2009 1:43:54 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Plant Evolution: Where’s the Root?

April 16, 2009 — To Darwin, the origin of flowering plants was an “abominable mystery.” Recently, some entries on Science magazine’s blog Origins have claimed the mystery has been solved, at least partially, and a full solution is near at hand. Here is a great test case for evolution. Angiosperms comprise a huge, diverse population of organisms. There should be an ample fossil record, and many genes to decipher. Let’s see if the optimistic claims are rooted in evidence...

(Excerpt) Read more at creationsafaris.com ...


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1 posted on 04/18/2009 1:43:54 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Finny; vladimir998; Coyoteman; allmendream; LeGrande; GunRunner; cacoethes_resipisco; ...

ping!


2 posted on 04/18/2009 1:44:29 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Defunded? Great idea! Time for separation of science and state!


3 posted on 04/18/2009 1:53:27 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Third Parties are for the weak, fearful, and ineffectual among us.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Amen to that, brother!


4 posted on 04/18/2009 1:57:12 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Not to be argumentative, but I have bred plants through generations to conform to my environment.


5 posted on 04/18/2009 2:02:34 PM PDT by allmost
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To: GodGunsGuts

That is stunning, especially when you consider Mendel’s work. It’s the biggest cover-up in science, I bet.


6 posted on 04/18/2009 2:02:53 PM PDT by gusopol3
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7 posted on 04/18/2009 2:03:27 PM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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8 posted on 04/18/2009 2:05:20 PM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: Riodacat

Your cartoon has it all wrong. It now appears that bacteria can partially direct their own mutations to become antibiotic resistant. This, of course, is much better explained by intelligent design, since the neo-Darwinian creation myth is driven by RANDOM MUTATIONS.


9 posted on 04/18/2009 2:10:26 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmost

Sounds like you plants have been intelligently designed to rapidly conform to your wishes :o)


10 posted on 04/18/2009 2:12:07 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Keep up the good work. Maybe one day you will convince one individual that science sucks and creationism clucks.


11 posted on 04/18/2009 2:13:13 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (I don't trust Obama with my country. Do you?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Yes, as a matter of fact, they were...


12 posted on 04/18/2009 2:17:48 PM PDT by allmost
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no, bad science sux, God’s creation and the obvious evidence, doesnt....


13 posted on 04/18/2009 2:18:20 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Jeff Gordon

Hmmm....my unofficial creation ping list keeps growing every week. And BTW, evolution is not a hard-science, it is a materialist/atheistic inference about the unobservable, unrepeatable past. Neither is creation a hard-science. But I must say, it is much better supported by the physical evidence than Darwood’s fanciful creation myth (which is in the process of crumbling under the massive weight of scientific falsification, even while creation science grows stronger and stronger!).


14 posted on 04/18/2009 2:20:19 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
materialist/atheistic inference about the unobservable, unrepeatable past

it's also (Primarily) been one heckuva political/ cultural tool.

15 posted on 04/18/2009 3:30:36 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Riodacat

ROFLMAO!

As for this in the article: “There should be an ample fossil record”
... of plants? Dont they decompose fairly readily?
If they can extract the DNA out of a lump of coal I’d be mighty impressed.


16 posted on 04/18/2009 8:46:05 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


17 posted on 04/18/2009 8:47:42 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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[[Not to be argumentative, but I have bred plants through generations to conform to my environment.]]

Ah- but hte quesiton is, have they sprouted wings and evovled eyes?


18 posted on 04/19/2009 7:14:29 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: GodGunsGuts

[[But I must say, it is much better supported by the physical evidence than Darwood’s fanciful creation myth (which is in the process of crumbling under the massive weight of scientific falsification, even while creation science grows stronger and stronger!).]]

Yep- and the crumbling in your other thread Bears repeating here:

“Phylogenetic reconstruction using the complete genome sequence not only failed to recover the correct evolutionary history because of these convergent changes, but the true history was rejected as being a significantly inferior fit to the data.”

In hte meantime, We’ll just have to endure al lthe silly accusations against Creation Science and ID while the Church of Darwin implodes from within quietly in the backgraound, apparently unnoticed by those hwo support it


19 posted on 04/19/2009 7:19:50 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Shhhhh....I think cartoons like that do far more harm to darwinism than anything I can think of...


20 posted on 04/19/2009 7:35:01 AM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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