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Recriminations after NYC jet flyover photo op
AP ^ | 4/28/09 | ULA ILNYTZKY and SARA KUGLER

Posted on 04/28/2009 3:28:35 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy

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To: never4get
"Well, the buck never stops at the Obama desk....another one thrown under the Obama bus, another fall guy, all because Mr. O.....

"did not know of the elaborate plans for the photos. "When he found out, he was absolutely furious,"

David Watkins, pick up on the red courtesy phone...

101 posted on 04/28/2009 5:29:08 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: utahagen

“Why was a TARP bank told about this, while Mayor Bloomberg was not?”

My best guess is Geitner knew about it and happened to mention it in passing to some other admistration official.
And it may be possible (slightly) that someone stopped to think “hmmm...how might this look to my buddies in NYC early in the morning on a nice sunny day?”
And that person might have been the ONLY one in DC to have the common sense to send a headsup to his/her friends so they wouldn’t have heart attack on their way to work.


102 posted on 04/28/2009 5:31:18 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Upstate NY Guy
The FAA notified the New York Police Department of the flyover..... It had a classified footnote that said,"Information in this document shall not be released to the public or the media." A very strange event. Many questions need to be answered.

If it was cool pictures they wanted why not just photoshop it? Why do they need these pictures?

103 posted on 04/28/2009 5:31:56 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Thermalseeker
Lets assume for a minute that it was, as they say, a "photo op". Why in the world would they do an unannounced photo op flight resulting in numerous buildings in NY and NJ to be evacuated when millions of pictures of the Statue of Liberty exist and millions of picture of Air Force One exist and any two of which could easily be photoshopped together to create the desired image?

Hollywood has to jump through a ton of hoops and get permits up the wazoo to be able to film a few minutes of footage for an upcoming movie. Everyone needs to be informed of what's going on - the municipal, state, and any other relevant authorities. In addition, private businesses near the site must be notified. Yet the clueless schmuck heading this administration can do what he pleases.

104 posted on 04/28/2009 5:32:32 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obamanation: an imploding administration headed by a clueless schmuck, with McCain as his Kowakian)
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To: Daisyjane69

“I hope, when election time comes, that some clever GOP media types find a way to use this video. Perhaps as an example of how “tone deaf” some libs are with respect to our national security. It’s a disgrace.”

And considering the amount of damage O is about to inflict on all of us over the next 3 years it would be nice if they used that footage to label him for exactly what he is...a terrorist.


105 posted on 04/28/2009 5:32:52 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: anoldafvet
You can, but the idiots in NY won't. No matter how many bonehead stunts Odouchewad pulls like this, my guess is he wins NY by 20+ points in 2012. Liberals are that stupid. That and the welfare addicts and illegal immigrants who vote ‘Rat for one reason only: free money.
106 posted on 04/28/2009 5:42:51 AM PDT by chimera
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To: Upstate NY Guy
Instead, it turned into a public relations nightmare that led to recriminations from the president and mayor

From the president.....isn't his team the ones who are responsible......is the teleprompter guy the one who ordered this? Just asking!!!!

107 posted on 04/28/2009 5:43:25 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
Instead, it turned into a public relations nightmare that led to recriminations from the president and mayor

From the president.....isn't his team the ones who are responsible......is the teleprompter guy the one who ordered this? Just asking!!!!

108 posted on 04/28/2009 5:44:27 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Alberta's Child
I can remember a low fly-by of military aircraft along the Hudson River a couple of years ago during Fleet Week in New York City. Every news outlet within 250 miles of Manhattan carried advance stories in the days leading up to it describing what was going to happen -- specifically to avoid any chance of chaos/panic that could have resulted among New Yorkers after 9/11.

Meanwhile, I read in an Aircraft Owners and Pilot's Association news brief this morning that a private pilot flying from Maine to North Carolina to visit his granddaughter was forced to land by two Air Force F-16's after nicking the prohibited airspace near DC when his GPS malfunctioned....

109 posted on 04/28/2009 5:47:35 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem - Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: COBOL2Java
Photographers (plural) aboard the F-16 took pictures? Um, how many people can sit in an F-16?

Two max...times two F-16s...four max. They may have hung a camera pod also. I've hung them to get airshow video...

110 posted on 04/28/2009 5:53:39 AM PDT by TankerKC (01/20/09 = 09/10/01)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

How much were we paying for this picture?


111 posted on 04/28/2009 5:57:48 AM PDT by joshhiggins
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
In my humble opinion, their memories are not that vivid and needed a good shaking-up...

You'd be surprised...every time a flurry of fire trucks race by or a helicopter flies overhead, people run to the window scared thinking of 9/11. When we had that steam explosion last summer, we were terrified and that's all anyone talked about.
112 posted on 04/28/2009 5:59:04 AM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Finally! Bill Hemmer just asked—WHO WAS ON BOARD???


113 posted on 04/28/2009 6:11:16 AM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

“The photo op was combined with a training exercise to save money, according to another administration official who also spoke on condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to speak publicly about the behind-the-scenes discussions about the flight....”

Who is buying this convenient leak?!


114 posted on 04/28/2009 6:14:38 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Liz
GUESS WHO Louis E Caldera. Born: 1-Apr-1956. Birthplace: El Paso, TX. Race or Ethnicity: Hispanic

My wife was born two years earlier, in Arizona, with a Hispanic ethnicity. Care to insult her as well because of her ethnicity?

It's OK, she's used to it, she's dealt with the occasional bigot her entire life.

115 posted on 04/28/2009 6:17:08 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Liz
Race or Ethnicity: Hispanic

Irrelevant. You should be embarrassed for posting this.

116 posted on 04/28/2009 6:21:00 AM PDT by TankerKC (01/20/09 = 09/10/01)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

It’s called “Photoshop”, look into it!


117 posted on 04/28/2009 6:22:27 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Scotswife
What you assert would make sense if we weren't talking about the top guy at a TARP bank. These guys are OWNED by Obama these days. In whatever era would credit card companies be dutifully filing into the White House to hear the president lecture them about the types of credit cards they should be issuing? Perhaps the White House intended the TARP CEOs to alert only their security teams about the plane, but the way this info was comminicated made it very clear this was not by-the-way info. The email was detailed as to the time of the planned flyover, where the plane would go, and the purpose (i.e., P.R.). CEOs of banks parse every word they communicate in email because the media almost always get their hands on the emails within minutes.
118 posted on 04/28/2009 6:23:15 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: A.A. Cunningham
BS

BS that several "expert" Freepers are posting.

119 posted on 04/28/2009 6:27:02 AM PDT by TankerKC (01/20/09 = 09/10/01)
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To: utahagen

well clearly you know more about it than I do.


120 posted on 04/28/2009 6:28:14 AM PDT by Scotswife
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