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Hoping Obama's place of birth truly was in Hawaii
The Victoria Advocate ^ | May 5, 2009 | Peter Aparicio

Posted on 05/06/2009 7:47:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I hope I am proven wrong.

I hope for the sake of our country that I and many other concerned citizens across the country are looked upon as well-intentioned but ultimately misguided individuals who chased a bad rumor based on lies and distortions.

The reason I hope to be thought wrong (although well-intentioned) is because the price of being right about the constitutional requirements to be president not being met by the current occupant of the Oval Office is too disturbing to be imagined.

If, in fact, Barack Obama does not meet the requirements set out by the U.S. Constitution in Article II, Section I, it would throw this country into a constitutional crisis. Vice President Joe Biden would, obviously, become President Biden. The harrowing part of this taking place is that every appointment made, every piece of legislation signed, and every executive order issued by Barack Obama could, and should, be considered invalid.

Full-moon time? I know, I know; I sound like a raving lunatic. So where do I draw my conclusions that this is even a valid issue to entertain?

Let's review what's been accepted as "fact" by the mainstream press and the vast majority of Americans: Barack Hussein Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Stanley Ann Dunham, 18, and Barack Obama Sr., 25.

Now let's look at some of the questions challenging these accepted "facts":

Concerned citizens across the United States since well before the November election have questioned Barack Obama's "natural born" qualification for the presidency. From sea to shining sea, at least 18 lawsuits with plaintiffs including a former presidential candidate, a former deputy attorney general, state legislators and retired and active duty members of the military, are attempting to compel him to verify his citizenship.

Candidate Obama's own Web site, fightthesmears.com, posted a "Certification of Live Birth," which, according to the Web site, proves that Obama is in fact a natural born U.S. citizen. What the Web site won't tell you, however, is that a "Certification of Live Birth" is not a birth certificate, and that at the time, the state of Hawaii allowed foreign-born children of U.S. citizens (Stanley Ann Dunham) to have their births registered with this document based on a statement of only one relative. The obvious question must be asked: If Obama has an original "long form" birth certificate issued on the day of his birth by the state of Hawaii, why would he also have a "Certification of Live Birth"? It would not be necessary. Critics have called upon President Obama to just give the state of Hawaii his permission to release his original "long form" birth certificate. The "long form" birth certificate would include all the pertinent information about his birth: name of the hospital, name and signature of the attending physician and a seal of the Hawaiian Health Department. This simple action by President Obama would immediately end all speculation about his citizenship and the reasons for the various lawsuits. Instead, President Obama is spending time and money hiring lawyers to fight these lawsuits. Why?

Why doesn't the mainstream press cover these lawsuits? I mean, in 2004, Dan Rather did a bang up job covering something a lot less important. Rather had "authentic" memos critical of President George W. Bush's Texas Air National Guard service record. Yet there are some legitimate questions about the constitutional eligibility of our president, and yet not one single major press outlet is covering it. Part of the reason is that this issue has supposedly settled by the independent authority on Obama's birth certificate, FactCheck.org. Yet on their Web site, FactCheck.org states:

"The document is a 'certification of birth,' also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response."

So the independent authority on this question has admitted that they have not seen the original long-form birth certificate. And the questions remain.

I sincerely hope that Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, in 1961 and therefore meets the constitutional requirements to be president. If not, our Constitution must be followed and procedures put in place for future elections wherein all candidates on the ballot must prove they meet the requirements set forth by the law of the land, the U.S. Constitution.

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Peter Aparicio is a resident of Victoria and a government teacher at Memorial High School.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: akaobama; bho2009; bho44; biden; birthcertificate; bo; certifigate; choomgang; colb; constitution; foreignborn; hawaii; illegitmate; kenya; obama; obamatruthfile; unconstitutional; usurper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Geeeeez, the thought of having Biden as President is enough to leave Obama alone.


21 posted on 05/06/2009 8:07:19 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (tagline under renovation, will return soon.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What “IF?” We ARE in a constitutional crisis. Which part of “Forgery” does Peter NOT understand?


22 posted on 05/06/2009 8:07:52 PM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think the reason Obama is hiding the birth certificate is that Obama is really a girl.

He's scrawny enough, he throws like a girl -- or wait, am I confusing him with John Kerry?

Cheers!

23 posted on 05/06/2009 8:09:45 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I sincerely hope that Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, in 1961 and therefore meets the constitutional requirements to be president.

If not we could demand the resignation of every judge who refused to allow these lawsuits any merit for refusing to abide by their oath to uphold the Constitution.
It would also mean that Barry would be asked to leave the White House and he would be afforded none of the perks of a former president.

Then again, Obama has said that he is a Christian...despite his refusal to personally help "the least of these" through his own donations to charity and his support for abortion at any time for any reason.... he wouldn't lie.
Of course any money he has spent over the $10.00 required to make a copy of his birth certificate available would illustrate his total disregard for "the least of these" who donated $1.00 and $2.00 to his campaign...

If President Obama lied to get into office, the truth will come out. The stain he will have left on the presidency may not.

24 posted on 05/06/2009 8:10:57 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: atomicweeder

The reason that Obama is hiding his birth certificate is that he is son of Frank Marshall Davis.
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Who is Frank Marshall Davis?

Some commie?


25 posted on 05/06/2009 8:11:17 PM PDT by unkus
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To: atomicweeder; Blado

Who the heck is Frank Marshall Davis?

I guess I am out of the loop. :D


26 posted on 05/06/2009 8:11:20 PM PDT by luvie (Zero is dumb as a rock (dangerously so))
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To: Secret Agent Man

Given that very conflict—between the potus and the military—do you think the CIA would do their best to produce the forgery the affirmative action potus figure would need to stop the conflict between orders and authority? I don’t even doubt it, given the specious video they produced to verify a lie to help sinkEmperor Clinton avoid dealing directly with terrorists who downed a 747 jet off the East Coast.


27 posted on 05/06/2009 8:12:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: unkus

GMTA?


28 posted on 05/06/2009 8:12:59 PM PDT by luvie (Zero is dumb as a rock (dangerously so))
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To: unkus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Marshall_Davis


29 posted on 05/06/2009 8:13:33 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Geeeeez, the thought of having Biden as President is enough to leave Obama alone.
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I’d take Biden over this evil imposter.


30 posted on 05/06/2009 8:13:44 PM PDT by unkus
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To: LUV W

Marshall is on top, Obama on bottom .....which one is the father......

31 posted on 05/06/2009 8:14:04 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I don’t think Biden automatically becomes the President. He serves as acting President if the existing President is found ineligible.

Then a new President is chosen.

From the 20th Amendment:

3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

I think the case may be made that if Zero was NEVER qualified to serve,it was as if the President did not qualify by the beginning of his appointed time to begin serving as President, and the Congress will have to determine how a new President will be deemed to be qualified to serve.


32 posted on 05/06/2009 8:14:58 PM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IMHO there is a 95% chance that his genuine Hawaii birth certificate is in a vault somewhere in Hawaii. By witholding it, Obama is making the Right go nuts, and get distracted from his dangerous policies and plan for socializing America.

Then Obama can point to the Right as wackos and nutjobs.

He may be evil, but he is not stupid.


33 posted on 05/06/2009 8:15:26 PM PDT by Cincinna (OBAMA "OH YES! I'M THE GREAT PRETENDER")
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To: penelopesire; BulletBobCo; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

~~ The subject won’t die ......... PING!


34 posted on 05/06/2009 8:17:11 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: The Brush

“Obama has said that he is a Christian”

IMHO he is not a Christian, he is an Atheist, raised by an Atheist Commie mother, and Atheist Commie grandparents.


35 posted on 05/06/2009 8:17:16 PM PDT by Cincinna (OBAMA "OH YES! I'M THE GREAT PRETENDER")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...it would throw this country into a constitutional crisis.
No it wouldn't, and her next statement proves it.

Vice President Joe Biden would, obviously, become President Biden. The harrowing part of this taking place is that every appointment made, every piece of legislation signed, and every executive order issued by Barack Obama could, and should, be considered invalid.
There ya go! You boot him, sweep thoroughly and start over with The Gaffe with my tag line following him and the Democrats into perpetual infamy.
I don't get where the "harrowing" part comes from.

36 posted on 05/06/2009 8:17:37 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Doogle

Actually, the language of the 20th Amendment places the burden of proof on the President elect: “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify . . . “


37 posted on 05/06/2009 8:17:43 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

School teachers are not smart!

Those that can do, those that can’t teach!!!!

Arrest and deport the illegal alien from Kenya!!!


38 posted on 05/06/2009 8:18:33 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: tioga

Wow. Got a point there!

Who put this 2+2 together?


39 posted on 05/06/2009 8:19:22 PM PDT by luvie (Zero is dumb as a rock (dangerously so))
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To: unkus

“The reason that Obama is hiding his birth certificate is that he is son of Frank Marshall Davis”

Frank Marshall Davis, his “mentor” was a Commie who took the nude pictures of Obama’s mother that have recently surfaced. She was 16 at the time.

If you look at videos of Obama speaking, he very much resembles Malcolm X.

Obama’s mother really got around, if you get my drift, and travelled in the same circles as Malcolm X....possible?


40 posted on 05/06/2009 8:20:44 PM PDT by Cincinna (OBAMA "OH YES! I'M THE GREAT PRETENDER")
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