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Editorial: You did it! Uh, so what now?
Sacramento Bee ^ | 5/20/9 | Editor

Posted on 05/20/2009 10:42:07 AM PDT by SmithL

Good morning, California voters. Do you feel better, now that you've gotten that out of your system?

You wanted to show the state's politicians just how mad you are at them. And you did. Boy, did you ever.

Proposition 1A with its taxes and its spending limit? Too much of one and not enough of the other, you said (or was it the other way around), and voted it down. Never mind that the taxes go into efffect anyway. You showed 'em.

Proposition 1B? That was a tougher call.

Proposition 1C? No way. You like the lottery just like it is. And all they were going to do with that extra $5 billion was spend it.

Propositions 1D and 1E? Forget it. You had already voted to put money into preschool and mental health programs. You're not taking it out now.

And 1F? Heck, yeah! Let's not pay our legislators if they can't pass a budget on time. So what if it likely won't have any effect, or that this year they actually passed a budget months earlier than they needed to? That's not the point.

The point is that you're sick and tired of all this political mumbo-jumbo. So you showed those politicians who's in charge. You. You're now officially in charge – of a state that will be something like $25 billion in the hole for the fiscal year beginning July 1.

So, now that you've put those irksome politicians in their place, maybe it's time to think about this: Since you're in charge, exactly what do you intend

...That sounds a lot like work, you say? Sorry, no whining allowed. You asked for this job. Now you've got it, so get on it. Oh, and remember. The entire nation is watching to see how you do now that you're in charge.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calinitiatives; goldenstate; specialelection; taxandspend; yourtaxdollarsatwork
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The tax-loving Sac-O-Bee demonstrates its contempt for California voters.
1 posted on 05/20/2009 10:42:07 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Libs hate Americans. That’s just the way it is.


3 posted on 05/20/2009 10:45:07 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: drew

Sorry, meant that to be edited! Looks like I botched it! I’m sure it will be stricken from the record. Sorry admin!


4 posted on 05/20/2009 10:45:36 AM PDT by drew
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To: SmithL

Yes California voters and while your at it perhaps you all should cancel your subscriptions to the SacBee if anyone still has one.


5 posted on 05/20/2009 10:45:37 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: SmithL
What now Sac-O- Bee? How about cutting state salaries and pensions by 10% accross the board?

Then, we can go after the illegals.

See Sac-O-Bee? Problem solved.

6 posted on 05/20/2009 10:45:57 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: SmithL

There is little hope that CA can cut the spending fast enough to keep up with the declining tax revenues. With car sales down by nearly 50%..and that is a big earner of sales tax and no capital gains tax coming in..they are in a world of trouble.
They will be headed to DC looking for another hand out.


7 posted on 05/20/2009 10:46:17 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Nachum

“Kinfolk said you better move away from there
Said California is no place for you to be
So I loaded up the truck and I moved from Beverly
Going back to the hills we are
Fishing holes and Country and Western Stars”


8 posted on 05/20/2009 10:46:24 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: SmithL

I hope they go bankrupt. smug little twerps....


9 posted on 05/20/2009 10:46:46 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: ozzymandus
Libs hate Americans. That’s just the way it is.

Post of the YEAR contender.

10 posted on 05/20/2009 10:47:05 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: drew

while I’m sure it will be edited also...I agree with the sentiment :o)


11 posted on 05/20/2009 10:47:12 AM PDT by Troublemaker
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To: drew

I don’t want to get into a p!$$!ng match with you, but ... is the B correct?


12 posted on 05/20/2009 10:47:30 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SmithL

What would you expect from the Excremento Bee?


13 posted on 05/20/2009 10:47:36 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: SmithL

LOL


14 posted on 05/20/2009 10:48:13 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama /Pelosi/Bush Theme : "A dollar borrowed or printed is a dollar earned!")
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To: drew

It’s still there as of this posting time...


15 posted on 05/20/2009 10:48:13 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: SmithL

>The tax-loving Sac-O-Bee demonstrates its contempt for California voters.

Well, don’t our Political Overlords do the same?


16 posted on 05/20/2009 10:49:50 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Drango

Okay, I’ll take the challenge.

First cut head count 10% across the board. With 330,000 employees, I think 33,000 are dead weight. Assume burdened cost of $100,000 per employee. There is 33,000,000,000 in annual savings. just do it.
Stop spending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


17 posted on 05/20/2009 10:50:04 AM PDT by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: drew

As I taught my daughter as she was growing up, if it is on the tip of your tongue it is in danger of falling out when you open your mouth.

I forgive you this time, though.


18 posted on 05/20/2009 10:50:26 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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Hey Clymers--let us vote on throwing the State into bankruptcy and voiding all of the union contracts. Oh, and vote on drug testing for welfare recipients. Oh, how about no social services and welfare for illegals? Oh, can we have another 'fit' and vote on requiring voter ID?

FU Sac Bee. *spit*

19 posted on 05/20/2009 10:50:35 AM PDT by eureka! (Elections have consequences, boy howdy. *sigh*)
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To: SmithL
...and they think they're objective...
20 posted on 05/20/2009 10:50:47 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you haven't purged you company of 0bama supporters, you are part of the problem.)
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To: SmithL

This last line from the article CLEARLY states the problem:

“You asked for this job. Now you’ve got it, so get on it. Oh, and remember. The entire nation is watching to see how you do now that you’re in charge.”

You see, government has forgotten who is the employer. WE THE PEOPLE are. Until they see and understand that, I have a feeling that revolution is a-”brewing” (as in TEA PARTIES)!


21 posted on 05/20/2009 10:50:57 AM PDT by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation !)
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Good job at masking...lol.


22 posted on 05/20/2009 10:51:42 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: SmithL
Elections have consequences....

As long as we allow the ethnic group "Deadbeat-Americans"'s vote to count as much as productive Americans, America will continue the downhill slide to Zimbabwe status.

Just the simple act of requiring a potential voter to show a picture ID and a current tax return showing that some amount of tax was paid would be a positive step in the right direction.

23 posted on 05/20/2009 10:51:43 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: calcowgirl

Califoria people childish for voting down taxes (editor not me) ping!


24 posted on 05/20/2009 10:52:14 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama /Pelosi/Bush Theme : "A dollar borrowed or printed is a dollar earned!")
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To: SmithL

You could do just a little editing to this article and have it apply perfectly to every one of those Americans who voted for ‘change’ last November.


25 posted on 05/20/2009 10:52:56 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: SmithL

The Voters in California DID their job.

Their NO votes were a rebuke to California politicians for those politicians trying to pass the buck to them, instead of them, the politicians, making the hard decisions they were elected to do.

The very purpose of the propositions was an attempt by the political class to help them avoid having to themselves take the hard decisions they are supposed to take, as is their responsibility to the offices they were elected to.

California’s voters should now vote out-of-office EVERY incumbent elected official in the state - reject the entire political class, en mass.


26 posted on 05/20/2009 10:53:08 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: SmithL
Another day another Bee employee tantrum. Cute.

These are the best and brightest Bee brains who opined within hours of 9/11/2001 that we shared the blame for the attacks. We do not try to "understand" the rest of the world and the attacks delivered that message.

Within weeks of 9/11 the publisher of the Bee was booed off the stage at a local university because of her outbursts against President Bush and Att. Gen. Ashcroft. She condemned them in defense of suspected terrorists.

1960s Alinsky street rabble and their ideological issue do not like dissent now that they feeeeeeeeel that they are the "Establishment."

27 posted on 05/20/2009 10:53:43 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Good morning, California voters. Do you feel better, now that you've gotten that out of your system?

Reminds me of Peter Jennings' retort that "America threw a temper tantrum" when they voted the GOP into control of Congress in 1994.

28 posted on 05/20/2009 10:54:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: SmithL
So, now that you've put those irksome politicians in their place, maybe it's time to think about this: Since you're in charge, exactly what do you intend

We always were in charge. We had just delegated some authority to some worthless politicians and are now letting them know that their propositions are not acceptable.

What we want is a reduction in government spending, and no we do not mean letting the criminals out of prison and firing the policemen.

29 posted on 05/20/2009 10:54:48 AM PDT by oldbrowser (This is not an administration, it's a crime syndicate.)
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To: B.O. Plenty
To 'them' having paid Payroll Tax (i.e., Social Security and Medicaid) that IS 'paying taxes'....regardless, that they receive more than they paid in Payroll taxe back from taxes they NEVER paid but had "Earned Income Credits"

It is going to be one big sight to see when the Government can't screw real workers out of their money anymore. The leeches will whine bloody murder - lib MSM will hawk their plights to high heaven. And, then, there will be rioting, the likes of which never seen.

30 posted on 05/20/2009 10:56:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SmithL

The people generated propositions passed such as Prop 13, prop 87, prop 8.
Legislative sponsored props are what has increased the costs to the state. The chicken poop legislators know they can’t get these spending measures passed, so push it off as propositions. They twist words, mislead, and lie, but hey, all’s fair. Reap what you sow.
State employees earn more than they are worth and retire on golden nests. Civil servants earning more than private sector doesn’t work. Time to come back to reality.


31 posted on 05/20/2009 10:57:10 AM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: SmithL

What is the age of this “editor”? 10 years or less? God, how infantile. But then, “it” is a Liberal. So, no surprise.


32 posted on 05/20/2009 10:58:40 AM PDT by kromike
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To: B.O. Plenty

Just the simple act of requiring a potential voter to show a picture ID and a current tax return showing that some amount of tax was paid would be a positive step in the right direction.

You bet!!!!


33 posted on 05/20/2009 10:58:46 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: RobinOfKingston

Meant to say “intercourse the Sacramento Bee!”


34 posted on 05/20/2009 11:00:11 AM PDT by drew
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To: SmithL

sounds like the Suck Bee is suffering its last gasps.


35 posted on 05/20/2009 11:00:21 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: SmithL
Editorial: You did it! Uh, so what now?

How about we close down the Sacramento Bee for starters?

36 posted on 05/20/2009 11:01:16 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: oldbrowser

In the last 10 years, the CA budget has grown from $69 B to $145 B. More than double in 10 years.

When the Gov explains why, he’ll know the answer.


37 posted on 05/20/2009 11:02:50 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: SmithL

I’ve found that calling your customers a bunch of poopie heads is not the best way to get them to purchase your product.


38 posted on 05/20/2009 11:03:11 AM PDT by Hazwaste (Liberals love the average American the same way that foxes love the average chicken.)
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To: ozzymandus

Apparently this particular newspaper didn’t get the message.

Amazing condescension.


39 posted on 05/20/2009 11:03:38 AM PDT by wolf24 ("Reality is putting The Onion out of business...")
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To: SmithL

Hey Sac-O-Bee!....are you to chicken shit to list the author of your cute editorial?.....

“Uh, so what now? I’ll tell you what now you arrogant asshat!....It’s people like you and your attitude that got California into this damn mess! People like you wanted everything: more spending for education, more spending for the environment, more spending for illegal immigrant health benefits, no oil drilling off the coast, on and on and on!
Go straight to hell! It’s your fault! don’t you dare come to me and say now what? The monkey wrench has been thrown into YOUR totally out of control Sacramento political machine! Like a drug addict with no more cocaine you’ll have to go thru the withdrawal program like the rest of us! Whould you like some cheese with that whine? DEAL WITH IT....NO MORE!


40 posted on 05/20/2009 11:04:00 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: knarf

I don’t think it’s a bad idea to ask “now what?” I do think the delivery and contempt for the voters deomonstrated in the article is odious. These are the type of people who think it’s OK for judges to reverse the will of the voters. Having said all that, it is a pertinent question; the voters are just sick of having the onus fall on them.


41 posted on 05/20/2009 11:04:02 AM PDT by drew
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To: windcliff
You asked for this job. Now you've got it, so get on it.
Awesome! Just give me the budget & a red pen & I'll take care of it in about an hour!
42 posted on 05/20/2009 11:04:41 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (The black man is keeping me down!)
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To: oldbrowser
and no we do not mean letting the criminals out of prison and firing the policemen.

Except that's what will happen.

43 posted on 05/20/2009 11:05:58 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: SmithL
Maybe those silly voters should cancel their subscriptions and advertising in the Sac Bee.

Then we'll see who laughs last.

44 posted on 05/20/2009 11:07:00 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

It’s always essential services - fire protection, police, roads, etc,

that statists threaten to cut if they aren’t given more of our money.

It’s never their salaries or staff that will have to do without. We simply MUST keep the 3rd executive assistant wine steward on staff while we threaten to cut fire protection by half.


45 posted on 05/20/2009 11:07:35 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: SmithL

Best Reply So Far from The Comments Section:

Posted by “Hulk_Smash”

Hulk smash keyboard so overjoyed! Hulk throw morning coffee at screen so mad at Bee Editors. Hulk use big boy word like, “Petulant.” Hulk treat Bee editors like puppy...”Bad puppy. Only go on paper...OH!!! Bee did when printed editorial!” Bee headline: “Voters Reject Props -— Women, Children Hardest Hit!” Same tired diatribe. Hulk know big words today! Hulk proud of self!


46 posted on 05/20/2009 11:10:42 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: SmithL

Yep, because taxing and spending is working so well for ya.


47 posted on 05/20/2009 11:11:53 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

That’s GOOD...

someone needs to invite him over here.


48 posted on 05/20/2009 11:12:21 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: SmithL

Now the link to that editorial is offline. I wonder if they couldn’t take the reader’s comments, which is what I went looking for.


49 posted on 05/20/2009 11:12:38 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Earth: It's not your mother, it's just a big rock.)
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To: pacpam
The chicken poop legislators know they can’t get these spending measures passed, so push it off as propositions. They twist words, mislead, and lie, but hey, all’s fair. Reap what you sow. State employees earn more than they are worth and retire on golden nests. Civil servants earning more than private sector doesn’t work. Time to come back to reality.

Thanks, you saved me the trouble of writing it. The only other thing I'd mention is that public employee unions are the principal budget-busters and absolutely must be brought to heel -- but of course they're the Democrat base, along with trial lawyers.

The voters have brought some of this upon themselves by stupidly approving huge bond obligations and carved-in-stone increases for education and other spending, etc. in the past. But those measures have been misleadingly promoted as you say. When voters have tried to limit spending on illegals, etc., were overruled by the courts or politicians. Time to get out the pitchforks.

50 posted on 05/20/2009 11:17:13 AM PDT by Bernard Marx ("Civilizations die by suicide, not from murder" Toynbee)
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