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WorldNetDaily.com ^ | May 22, 2009 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 05/23/2009 3:31:25 AM PDT by Man50D

A San Diego pastor and his wife claim they were interrogated by a county official and warned they will face escalating fines if they continue to hold Bible studies in their home.

The couple, whose names are being withheld until a demand letter can be filed on their behalf, told their attorney a county government employee knocked on their door on Good Friday, asking a litany of questions about their Tuesday night Bible studies, which are attended by approximately 15 people.

"Do you have a regular weekly meeting in your home? Do you sing? Do you say 'amen'?" the official reportedly asked. "Do you say, 'Praise the Lord'?"

The pastor's wife answered yes.

She says she was then told, however, that she must stop holding "religious assemblies" until she and her husband obtain a Major Use Permit from the county, a permit that often involves traffic and environmental studies, compliance with parking and sidewalk regulations and costs that top tens of thousands of dollars.

And if they fail to pay for the MUP, the county official reportedly warned, the couple will be charged escalating fines beginning at $100, then $200, $500, $1000, "and then it will get ugly."

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KEYWORDS: bible; biblestudy; freedom; liberty; lipng; lping; pastor; sandiego; zoning
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To: Man50D
"Do you have a regular weekly meeting in your home? Do you sing? Do you say 'amen'?" the official reportedly asked. "Do you say, 'Praise the Lord'?"

Do you have a warrant? No? Then f**k off.

21 posted on 05/23/2009 4:45:42 AM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: Man50D
And if they fail to pay for the MUP, the county official reportedly warned, the couple will be charged escalating fines beginning at $100, then $200, $500, $1000, "and then it will get ugly."

He has no idea how "ugly" it will get--for him. He has made a huge mistake by persecuting this couple. We take care of our own, as he will very soon find out as he's looking at classified ads for a new job.

22 posted on 05/23/2009 4:47:15 AM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: Man50D
"Wherever two or three of ye shall gather in My name..."

There will be charges filed apparently.

23 posted on 05/23/2009 4:56:53 AM PDT by muir_redwoods ( Hey, remember the last head of state who dictated the design of automobiles?)
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To: WFTR
We have Bible study at our home every Tuesday night....
...3 or 4 cars max, and 2 cars can get in the driveway.

It lasts 2 hours max.

Our church calls them 'small groups' and there are at least 6 throughout the community during the week.....it's an extension of bringing our members together & knowing them better---but it is not exclusive and our neighbors know they would be welcome to attend.

No one can hear us from the street --we are quiet & show respect to our neighbors.

We own our home, we have lived here 8 years and our neighbors like us and know about the Bible study.

But I can see someone moving into the neighborhood who is anti-Bible study and doing something exactly like this.

I will take this story seriously because we are in a new era of fear & retaliation, it seems.

But we will hold our Bible study (Lord willing) as long as we can.

24 posted on 05/23/2009 4:57:10 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Man50D

When was the right to peaceful assembly revoked? Did I miss something?


25 posted on 05/23/2009 5:04:57 AM PDT by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue. http://www.thekingsmen.us/)
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To: WKB; Salvation; NYer; Vision; greyfoxx39; Sopater; wagglebee; Gabz; bamahead

ping


26 posted on 05/23/2009 5:12:35 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: AppyPappy
I smell a homeowners association

The article names a "government official". If it were a HOA, the only recourse is civil, not criminal.

But, a complaint from a neighbor can call for swift government action.

If you don't like somebody, just say you "think you saw" kiddy porn on their computer... it's a perfectly anonymous thing which is probably repeated daily!


27 posted on 05/23/2009 5:14:37 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist.- Arth. C. Clarke's shortest story)
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To: Man50D

They’ll need a lot of luck to stop people from worshiping in homes. Nobody has been able to stop it in 2000 years, no matter what kind of force they bring.


28 posted on 05/23/2009 5:14:39 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Truly Constitutional money isn't just backed by gold and silver- it IS gold and silver.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Amen. Accompanied by the business end of a shotgun to punctuate the sentiment.


29 posted on 05/23/2009 5:51:07 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting. Thanks to every poster. BTTT!


30 posted on 05/23/2009 6:21:12 AM PDT by PGalt
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31 posted on 05/23/2009 6:51:23 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Wife of D
I don’t know if the whole story is being being told in this article.

Wing Nut Daily has a tendency to conveniently omit certain details.

32 posted on 05/23/2009 6:56:12 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Man50D

Well, I guess a thursday night Tupperware party will be out of the question!


33 posted on 05/23/2009 7:08:00 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: AppyPappy
I know several people who consider the street in front of their house to be their property.

I'm not selfish enough to think that the street in front of my house is my property, but I do like to think I should get first dibs on parking there. I also don't like the idea of anyone I don't know parking in front of my house. You never know what they're up to. Of course, I live in a quiet neighborhood where someone parking in front of your house is not a typical thing.

34 posted on 05/23/2009 7:13:44 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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To: Man50D

If this same couple had weekly parties for wife swapping, dope smoking or other activities not church related would there be a need for a MUP???


35 posted on 05/23/2009 7:15:30 AM PDT by The Great RJ (chain.)
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To: Wife of D
I don’t think we’re that far along where the gestapo are shutting down churches.

Yesterday evening I was talking to some people who recently moved into our neighborhood from CA. They left the San Fran area when their daughter came home from school last year and she had been told not to mention the word God in class. The mom is now homeschooling her kids.

36 posted on 05/23/2009 7:52:56 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It took almost 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for "The Failure" BO to tear it down.)
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To: Man50D

intrep


37 posted on 05/23/2009 9:29:31 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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To: Man50D

Call the bible meetings GAY ORGIES and your rights will be protected 100%.


38 posted on 05/23/2009 10:13:05 AM PDT by yazoo (Conservatives believe what they see. Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: WVKayaker

Photo of You WVKayaker?


39 posted on 05/23/2009 11:31:12 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Man50D

Looks like the First Amendment will have to be supported by the Second.


40 posted on 05/23/2009 11:34:25 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (Washington couldnt tell a lie. Clinton couldnt tell the truth. Bawny Fwank cant tell the difference.)
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