Local Confederate Veterans' Group Can’t March in Ohio Parade

The Morehead News ^ | May 22, 2009 | staff

[kellynla]

The Morehead chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans have been denied a request to march in the Ironton Lawrence County Memorial Day Parade.

The 5th Kentucky Infantry Camp #2122 received a letter from Arthur J. Pierson, parade grand marshal, rejecting the group’s request to participate in the parade, without giving any reasons why.

“Your parade request for SCV, 5th Kentucky Infantry camp #2122 Morehead, KY, has been considered and NOT APPROVED,” the letter stated.

The 5th Kentucky wanted to march with a color guard that would feature two Confederate flags – the Kentucky Confederate flag and the Confederate battle flag – and two motorcycles.

The group wanted to march to memorialize the service of Confederate veterans, many of whose descendants live in the tri-state.

It seems the flags were the reason for the camp’s exclusion.

Pierson said later that it would not be right to fly the Confederate flag when there is only one flag – the United States flag. He also said he was concerned about the group wearing the Confederate uniform and other memorabilia.

Memorial Day traces its roots back to the post-Civil War era, in 1868, when General John A. Logan, Commander of this nation’s army, declared that “a day be set aside to honor those men killed in the Civil War.” Originally it was called “Decoration Day,” and as the years passed, its scope was expanded to include all military veterans. Darrell Crawford of Morehead, Adjutant of the 5th Kentucky Infantry Camp 2122, said his group will be marching in Morehead’s Memorial Day parade where they are appreciated by local veterans and citizens of the city and county.

The group marched in last year’s parade.

"It was an honor to get to march in front of the veterans that were at the old courthouse as we fired a volley in their honor and for veterans past,” Crawford said. “When the veterans saluted, tears rolled down my face. That means something of these fine men who served our country. They knew that the Confederate flag was an American flag as well, as some of their ancestors were Confederate-Americans.”

[real_patriotic_american]

Confederate veterans can’t march in a parade, but a Kenyan born Democrat named Obama can serve as President?

Why is Obama spending an enormous amount of legal fees in keeping his birth certificate hidden?

[kellynla]

“Why is Obama spending an enormous amount of legal fees in keeping his birth certificate hidden?”

Because Hussein is as phoney as a three-dollar-bill!

[rustbucket]

Here's the reaction of the southern citizens to the Yankees' entrance into Red Clay, Georgia as recorded in the history of the 96th Illinois Infantry Regiment by Charles Partridge:

We've had this conversation before. Here's the Google map of Red Clay: Map of greater Red Clay

On the other hand, Vicksburg, Mississippi, didn't celebrate the Fourth of July until World War II. [Source: Time Magazine article from 1945]

As I've mentioned before on these threads, my Georgia inlaws despised Yankees long after the war in Georgia. I wonder if Yankee thievery like the following admission by Union Captain George Whitfield Pepper might have played a role [Source, Personal Recollections of Sherman's Campaigns: In Georgia and the Carolinas, by George Whitfield Pepper, published by Hugh Dunne of Zanesville, Ohio, in 1866]:

There are hundreds of these mounted men with the column and they go everywhere. Some of them are loaded down with silverware, gold coin, and other valuables. I hazard nothing in saying that three-fifths (in value) of the personal property of the country we passed through was taken.

[lentulusgracchus]

.....from its very inception been physically attacked and invaded by the largest army on the continent in the world.

There, fixed 'er up a little.

Lincoln commanded a million bayonets. Nobody in Europe, not even the czar of Russia, had an army that large.

[lentulusgracchus]

Right, I saw the reference to town and county, but still have no idea what state it took place in. Could have been Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, or Illinois. West Virginia, maybe, or even Tennessee. There's a reference to a Kentucky SCV group -- but that's it.

Heck, it could have been in Michigan.

[kellynla]

Kentucky

[TexConfederate1861]

Ever since Obalama Ding Dong was elected, I fly the Bonnie Blue Flag!

[TexConfederate1861]

Tell me something I DON’T know....:)

[TexConfederate1861]

You just don’t get it. Confederate Soldiers were Americans too. After the war, Union & Confederate Veterans marched together hand in hand.

What a MORON!

[TexConfederate1861]

Brother, you are knocking but there is NOBODY HOME! :)

[awake-n-angry]

“Confederate Soldiers were Americans too. After the war, Union & Confederate Veterans marched together hand in hand.”
___________________

Two weeks ago, in a mental health treatment facility in Iraq, an AMERICAN soldier killed 5 AMERICAN soldiers. According to your model, both the murderer and the murdered should be equally revered.

Every time a 19th century confederate traitor loaded and aimed his weapon, his intenet was the same of any al Queada scum in the 21st century- to kill a brave and patriotic American who was defending the United States of America.

The outcome of the war is indicative of who God favored. I always side with the Almighty and the United States of America. All else can be damned.

[stainlessbanner]

Dixie List ping...still catching up

[Colonel Kangaroo]

"There are hundreds of these mounted men with the column and they go everywhere. Some of them are loaded down with silverware, gold coin, and other valuables. I hazard nothing in saying that three-fifths (in value) of the personal property of the country we passed through was taken."

But there were also many of these type of criminals also operating in the wake of Confederate forces. I've read much of similar Confederate atrocities associated with the passage of Wheeler's cavalry. But the problem with the Confederate civil oppression that I've been studying is that it was done under what passed for normal peaceful community life and was unrelated to military movements. For instance, the military requirements of the CSA did not need the existence of Captain Brown's systematic extortion of Unionists in the Cleveland Tennessee region.

[Colonel Kangaroo]

Now y’all know I make an effort to differentiate between the noble Confederate soldiers and the idiot stay at home politicians and secessionist chickenhawks who misused and destroyed much of who and what was best of old Dixie in behalf of their selfish interest in what was worst about old Dixie.

[Colonel Kangaroo]

Certainly there were variation across the South, but there is ample proof of widespread regions of real pro-Union sentiment A more high profile example is the heroes’ welcome received by Burnside as liberators of Knoxville. It depended on local and regional sentiment. I’ve read a midwestern Union soldier’s account of the the marked contrast in citizen sentiment after crossing the Cumberland Plateau. Widespread Southern hostility was replaced by a welcome feeling of being at home among appreciative friends. A lot of southern people believed they had much more in common with the midwestern Yankee farmer/soldiers than they did with the under-worked members of the decayed aristocracy who ran the Confederacy.

[JamesP81]

As only a small percentage of the men and boys fighting for the South owned any slaves or had any use for them, I don’t see how offering them slaves as a bribe would work.

Most soldiers in the confederate army had no slaves or any land that one could work. They had no interest in continuing the institution of slavery and had nothing to do with why they were fighting. Most of them were fighting because there was an invading army attacking their towns. Slavery or not, most of them were determined to do their best to force the invader to a halt. Anybody would.

[NavyCanDo]

Exactly right.

Any time one of these Civil War threads pop up there are vultures educated by guilt trip the PC police lying in wait to post their anti-Sothern rant. I don't see their names on other subjects, but post a Civil War topic and here they come like clockwork.

They ignore the fact that when the South fired on Fort Sumter, beginning the war, there were eight slave states in the Union and only seven in the Confederacy. And The odds were greatly against the Confederate soldier even owning any slaves. And everyone in Gray were fuming that slave-owners in Delaware, Maryland, Missouri and Kentucky, the slave holding states that remained in the Union were allowed to keep their slaves. The Confederate soldiers who did not own slaves were fighting against a proportion of Union Army soldiers who had not been asked to give theirs up.

[Clint Williams]

Welcome to the Rule of Man.

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

[NavyCanDo]

The 1860 census determined that there were fewer than 385,000 individuals who owned slaves. That would amount to only 1.4 percent of whites in the country or 4.8 percent of southern whites owning one or more slaves. There is no way that the continuance of slavery was the reason so many young boys left the non-slave family farm to join up with the army.

[AuntB]

“The 1860 census determined that there were fewer than 385,000 individuals who owned slaves. That would amount to only 1.4 percent of whites in the country or 4.8 percent of southern whites owning one or more slaves. There is no way that the continuance of slavery was the reason so many young boys left the non-slave family farm to join up with the army.”

Bears repeating!