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A Human Language Gene Changes the Sound of Mouse Squeaks
NY Times ^ | 5/28/09 | Nicholas Wade

Posted on 05/29/2009 12:24:46 AM PDT by LibWhacker

People have a deep desire to communicate with animals, as is evident from the way they converse with their dogs, enjoy myths about talking animals or devote lifetimes to teaching chimpanzees how to speak. A delicate, if tiny, step has now been taken toward the real thing: the creation of a mouse with a human gene for language.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: citymouse; countrymouse; creation; dna; evolution; gene; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; human; language; mickeymouse; moose; mouse; mtdna; talkingmouse

1 posted on 05/29/2009 12:24:47 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

O’no Then we will really know what a DemoRat thinks.. They will ask to vote.. and unionize..


2 posted on 05/29/2009 12:43:09 AM PDT by primatreat ( Enjoy! the Big "0" while you can...)
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To: LibWhacker

I kinda like that my dog couldn’t talk to me. Besides, body language was enough for him. Go fishing, we just sat there and enjoyed each other’s company. If I was sad, he knew it and tried to help. If I was happy or excited, he knew that too. My sister’s cat is the same way with her(not a cat person myself though). There is something to be said about the silence of animals. Its almost an understanding.


3 posted on 05/29/2009 1:36:41 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: LibWhacker

The experiment has been declared a success, if a limited success; the mouse vocabulary consists of only two words, repeated in infinite strings: “Food! Sex! Food! Sex! Sex! Food!” etc.


4 posted on 05/29/2009 1:48:45 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: LibWhacker
“People shouldn’t think of this as the one language gene but as part of a broader cascade of genes,” he said. “It would have been truly spectacular if they had wound up with a talking mouse.”

Not nearly as spectacular if the mouse had said: "Get this damn thing out of me you fools, can't you see I'm a mouse. Now shut the hell up and get me some cheese..."

5 posted on 05/29/2009 2:01:41 AM PDT by csense
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To: LibWhacker

We already have rats with the gene for double talk.


6 posted on 05/29/2009 2:03:20 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: LibWhacker

My cat already talks to me. And has me pretty well trained. I talk to he but she ignors me.


7 posted on 05/29/2009 2:07:53 AM PDT by BigCinBigD ('When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,')
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To: csense

Can you imagine instead of hearing mice squeaking inside the walls we had to listen to them complaining about us?


8 posted on 05/29/2009 2:31:21 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Then we could literally say the walls are crawling with liberals.

Yikes! I shudder to think...

9 posted on 05/29/2009 2:40:14 AM PDT by csense
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
"Allan Wilson had always been described to me in superlatives, such as 'one of the real geniuses in science,' or 'the most arrogant guy I know...' [H]e apologized for putting me off so long and bluntly explained that the reason he had done so was that he did not trust me... 'The anthropological perspective on evolution is no longer valid; it has been overthrown. And yet the science writers who insist on talking to me come drenched in an anthropological perspective, and there is really no point in talking to them... It is paralytic. It prevents you from asking certain questions, and it forces you to ask others. The whole discipline invites you not to investigate.'

...A few months before my visit, Wilson had announced at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science... that the Neandertals were replaced because they could not speak... suggesting that a particular gene for language might have been carried in the mitochondria themselves. Since invading males would have been more likely to mate with resident females than the other way around, the offspring of sexual contact between the two groups would be 'linguistically deaf-mute,' like their Neandertal mothers. Thus disadvantaged, these 'village idiots' would face the same fate as the mothers: extinction. Only the language-endowed African lineage would continue. The language gene idea, and especially the unfortunate term 'village idiots,' elicited hoots of derision from the anti-Eve camp, and gave no joy to Wilson's colleagues."
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10 posted on 05/29/2009 6:15:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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11 posted on 05/29/2009 6:15:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: LibWhacker

Wow.

I remember seeing a PBS special about the family, and how they isolated the gene, think it was a NOVA.

I’d like to see what happens if they put it in dogs...


12 posted on 05/29/2009 6:35:15 AM PDT by djf (Man up!! Don't be a FReeloader!! Make a donation today!)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Can you imagine instead of hearing mice squeaking inside the walls we had to listen to them complaining about us?

Not to mention the domestic disputes.

13 posted on 05/29/2009 6:37:45 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: djf
I’d like to see what happens if they put it in dogs...

"Throw the ball. Throw the ball. Oh BOY, he's gonna throw the ball. C'MON THROW THE BALL!"

"Throw the ball again. Throw the ball. C'MON!"

"Where's my water?"

14 posted on 05/29/2009 6:39:56 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Only if they give me the gene that lets them lick their own balls.


15 posted on 05/29/2009 6:59:51 AM PDT by Natufian (The mesolithic wasn't so bad, was it?)
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To: Jack Hammer; Lazamataz
The experiment has been declared a success, if a limited success; the mouse vocabulary consists of only two words, repeated in infinite strings: “Food! Sex! Food! Sex! Sex! Food!” etc.

Hmmm. Sounds like Laz...

16 posted on 05/29/2009 8:03:13 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 130 of our national holiday from reality.)
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17 posted on 05/29/2009 8:10:06 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 130 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: LibWhacker; SunkenCiv

Ha Ha, Pluto. Bad Dog! Get down off of Minnie!


18 posted on 05/29/2009 9:45:49 AM PDT by wildbill ( The reason you're so jealous is that the voices talk only to me.)
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To: LibWhacker

Are their tongues able to master language, physically I mean. I read once the animal tongue is not able to form words.

If they can this will put a whole new meaning to the ‘exterminator’ business.


19 posted on 05/29/2009 11:49:12 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: LibWhacker
Oh my! I just had a major flash back to a movie I sat and watched (X 100) with my daughter when she was little, The Secret of NIMH. Everyone else attacking conservatives, now socialist dictatorial rats demanding more cheese! AAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
20 posted on 05/30/2009 7:07:18 PM PDT by forest153 ("There's a snake in my boot!")
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