Posted on 05/31/2009 9:35:48 AM PDT by Kansas58
Kansas Abortionist George Tiller was shot today as he was going to Church.
(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...
If empathy is a sought-after trait in a Supreme Court justice, it should also be appropriate for a potential juror.
Make that a jury of two for nullification.
There are way too many bad posts here.
I couldn’t agree with you more.
My first speculation was along those lines. Somebody's wife, girlfriend or daughter suffered serious emotional damage post-abortion. Non-random murder is usually over something personal.
It's less likely (but certainly quite possible) the shooter didn't have a personal attachment, and was acting "on principle." (scare quotes for obvious reasons, I'm sure honest readers understand the sort of person meant to be described by that phrase).
Amen. Well stated.
Sebelius Unfit For HHS Post - Facts About Her Connections To The Abortion Cartel
Thanks
It was pure luck -—
Went on my email, noticed a “breaking news” item from the Wichita Eagle.
I ignore 99% of them.
Not this time!
I shuddered and knew it was big.
And it was.
Funny you should say that.
I wouldn’t put it past this administration to stage an event like this to advance their agenda.
I wonder if they will at least close down his abortion mills for a few days “In Memoriam”?
Only if we let it. Whenever a pro-lifer hears the movement condemned because of the actions of this one person, they need to be clear that the pro-life movement condemns murder, period.
This was not done by, condoned, or sanctioned by the pro-life movement, it was done by an individual.
I will certainly condemn this horrible murder.
But I cannot mourn it.
Take your condescending victimhood somewhere else.
Blackpaint the pro-life movement as terrorist. Gun control. Making a martyr out of Tiller. Covering for Sebelius and Sotomayor. The list goes on.
The feds will spend our tax dollars to fortify and guard them.
Thank you for posting all the way from THAILAND with this pearl of wisdom.
The real man bites dog story here is that Tiller was on his way to church!
“Just saw this on Fox News. Wow. This will not help the pro-life cause.”
What if we framed the debate the way KOS and the Democrat-worshipping media would?
Say it’s not “Murder”, but a “Very-late term Abortion”. Would that make them feel better???
Don’t mischaracterize the movement you purport to understand. It’s the pro-innocent-life movement.
Tiller didn’t qualify.
++++++++++++++
Would you suggest we gun down vigilante style all those who violate God’s laws? Come on, you KNOW this was wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Wrong morally, wrong tactics, wrong for the pro-innocent life movement.
There are MUCH better ways to achieve a much greater impact. The person that did this was stupid and would have much better served the movement by supporting the removal of Tiller’s license and stronger pro-life laws, locally and eventually nationally.
We are a nation of laws - unless we’re prepared to spit upon the Constitution and the Scriptures (do we know what the Torah is??) and I don’t think any of us in the pro innocent life movement is going to advocate that.
Are you?
They see him as a hero? Hey, even Hitler had people justifying what he did. You can create your own world and justify anything. They have done that with the murder of the most innocent and see nothing wrong with it.
You could start a thread citing Tiller’s many accomplishments. You know...sort of as an antidote to this one.
Wasn’t really trying to be very sneaky, eh? Makes me wonder if he’ll be found alive.
Exactly, it was done by a MURDERER who has no more respect for the sanctity of human life than Tiller did.
And the Irgun were terrorists for hitting the King David hotel. Right?
He goes to this church because they support abortion:
From the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America’s website:
http://www.elca.org/What-We-Believe/New-or-Returning-to-Church/Dig-Deeper/Abortion.aspx
Abortion (Lutheran view)
The ELCA Social Statement on Abortion , adopted by the 1991 Churchwide Assembly, acknowledges the issue’s complexity, noting that it “evokes strong and varied convictions about ... human life and responsibility, freedom and limits.” The statement also offers useful guidance: “A developing life in the womb does not have an absolute right to be born, nor does a pregnant woman have an absolute right to terminate a pregnancy. The concern for both the life of the woman and the developing life in her womb expresses a common commitment to life.”
A last resort
“The strong Christian presumption is to preserve and protect life,” the statement says. “Abortion ought to be an option only of last resort. Therefore, as a church we seek to reduce the need to turn to abortion. ...We also deplore the circumstances that lead a woman to consider abortion as the best option available to her.”
The statement adds: “The church recognizes that there can be sound reasons for ending a pregnancy through induced abortion.” These are the threat to a woman’s physical life; when pregnancy has resulted from rape, incest or sexual violence; and fetal abnormalities incompatible with life.
Basic faith convictions undergird the ELCA statement. Created in God’s image, we see all of life as a mysterious, awesome gift. As a community of forgiven sinners, Christians are free to make just and caring choices. In fact, the statement says, “we have both the freedom and the obligation to engage in serious deliberation on moral matters.” A compassionate community, praying and standing with those in struggle, is called neither to judge nor justify but to support people making difficult moral decisions.
The Lutheran | August 2000 | Since You Asked
By Norma and Burton Everist
This was a post-birth abortion!
Then we have to make the case that this killer is no more representative of the pro-life movement as a whole than Theodore Kascynsky (killed 3, injured 23) was representative of all environmentalists or Al Gore supporters.
I had the same thought.
Perhaps, but it is good for the babies he was planning to murder this week..
I am personally opposed to the murder of a lower than scum abortionist.
But..............
Although this may prove to be a little bit of a quandary for those liberals who are swift to attach hypocrisy to every Christian. They can't defend their abortion stance and call Tiller a hypocrite for going to church at the same time. If they try to defend Tiller as a good Christian then they can't point the "hypocrite" finger at Christians any more.
Somebody earlier on this thread said that the church (Reformed Lutheran?) was pro-abortion. He probably searched for a church until he found one that suited his needs. He obviously wasn't interested in rethinking his life's work.
That's why I'm not posting.
Whoever did this is as bad as Tiller. There is no excuse for this. I hope they catch the SOB and try him. Whoever did it deserves due process that’s more than Tiller and the killer ever gave anyone.
I think he have been a trainer.
Tiller’s “specialty” was late-term abortions of babies who were capable of living outside the womb. It is very difficult to sympathize with someone who does that, though I will certainly pray for his soul. I have not seen a single comment on this thread supporting the murderer.
The true tragedy is in the lost lives of those unborn children at the hand of Tiller.
While I won't celebrate, diminish or glorify his death in any way, Tiller's murder is not tragic.
You have mental problems.
Mods, this freak has been told to stay away from me, since he's made physical threats against me and my family in the past.
I have no earthly idea why you let him come back the first time.
I am really glad they issued a statement.
WE JUST LOST FOR FOREVER. THE OTHER SIDE WAS WON. THIS IS THE EVENT THAT THE DEMS AND OTHER LEFTISTS WILL NEED TO FULFILL THEIR AGENDA...
“actually, the fear this strikes may thwart some babykillers”
Yup...that’s exactly what happened the last time some abortionists were taken out. Many “doctors” left this field of endeavor and the clinics were bellyaching that they couldn’t find anyone to do hit-jobs on babies.
+++++++++++++++
Do we respect the Constitution and rule of law or not? We can’t have it both ways - and I’m as PROLIFE as they come!! Bad for the movement. A setback today. We need to fight this battle in society.
And it’s a shame as for the first time since 1995, more people ID’d themselves as pro-life than pro-choice...why are we going to toss away decades of dedicated work, for some craziness like this? We’ve got to think of the greatest good for the most unborn. I know that what Tiller did was heinous.
#244
Not yet ;-)
Maine isn't a hotspot for storms of any sort. We do get some of that AAR (antropogenic acid rain), but the warming parts hasn't manifested.
As to the ELCA's position on abortion, I was quite taken aback. I grew up LCMS, and had no idea that the ELCA was so radically different. Not a happy thing to learn, but I'd rather know it than not.
Exactly.
“This was a post-birth abortion!”
The left couldn’t POSSIBLY cry out about very-late term abortion, could they??
IMAGINE THE OUTCRY?
Well stated.
Are you French?
Indeed. You talk great smack on the internet from the safety of your own home. Let us know when you take the perp walk for "Standing up for aborted children".
Good find.
I think it sums it up the feelings of most freepers on this thread as well.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.