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Tiller: ABC Cites Anonymous Tweets, Sawyer Gets Choked Up
FinkelBlog ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 06/01/2009 5:00:24 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Has ABC established a new journalistic standard: henceforth, is it OK to cite anonymous internet posts to demonstrate public opinion on an issue?

During its segment on the murder of abortion doctor George Tiller, ABC News reporter cited two inflammatory–and anonymous–Tweets. Later, at the conclusion of her interview of two associates of the late Dr. Tiller, Diane Sawyer seemed to choke up.

ABC News reporter Jeffrey Kofman was on the scene in Wichita, Kansas.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Kansas
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1 posted on 06/01/2009 5:00:24 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Tiller ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 06/01/2009 5:01:28 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

She’s weeping for the 50 million babies


3 posted on 06/01/2009 5:01:47 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

4 posted on 06/01/2009 5:03:34 AM PDT by maggief
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Later, at the conclusion of her interview of two associates of the late Dr. Tiller, Diane Sawyer seemed to choke up.

"We lost one of the greatest mass-murderers in American history, Charlie. I'm all verklempt. Talk among yourselves."

5 posted on 06/01/2009 5:04:24 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
is it OK to cite anonymous internet posts to demonstrate public opinion on an issue?

At least they are "reporting" something instead of making it up.

6 posted on 06/01/2009 5:05:44 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED. Barack OBORTION is a close second.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

She always has that “just took a BIG bite out of a lemon” expression on her face. Such a hand-wringer.


7 posted on 06/01/2009 5:06:12 AM PDT by liberty75
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

A moment of silence for George Tiller, please. A finer doctor never dismembered a living child...


8 posted on 06/01/2009 5:09:25 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: liberty75

kinda looks like she just smelled a stinky one


9 posted on 06/01/2009 5:11:08 AM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: All

LOL at Sawyer.

The pathetic irony of her discontent for the children and grandchildren is laughable to me. (Not to be confused with sorrow I feel for the family of the victim.)

If there were an irony meter it would break as TKiller accounted himself personally responsible for over 60,000 abortions.


10 posted on 06/01/2009 5:11:43 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("We Are All Socialists Now"........not me, not now, not ever)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
No, it is not an acceptable jounalistic standard to cite an anonymous source, when you have no idea whether that source was sincere. I could post an idiotic or hateful rant on posing as an advocate of an opposing viewpoint just to discredit my opposition.
11 posted on 06/01/2009 5:12:22 AM PDT by omni-scientist
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To: silverleaf

From Air America;
“From: newsletter@airamerica.com
Subject: Is Bill O’Reilly To Blame For Murder Of Kansas Doctor? The Morning News
Date: June 1, 2009 6:27:24 AM EDT

One of the only doctors in the nation who performed abortions towards the end of pregnancy was shot dead as he handed out his church bulletin Sunday. An arrest was made. A fair question arises: did the killer watch Bill O’Reilly? (Video): “Now, a guy in Kansas, George Tiller, ok, can kill a baby—kill a baby—a half-hour before the baby’s supposed to be birthed for no reason whatsoever...”


12 posted on 06/01/2009 5:12:42 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: maggief
that's the perfect picture, to post.
her (sickening) sycophantic behavior / fawning
@ the Zer0Bambi Inauguration.

13 posted on 06/01/2009 5:12:54 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid / deadly things happen... :^)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Poor Diane is so choked up at this lull in baby killing she might take it up herself.


14 posted on 06/01/2009 5:14:12 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
A fair question arises: did the killer watch Bill O’Reilly?

A fair question arises: did the killer eat twinkies?

15 posted on 06/01/2009 5:15:03 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Murder kills murder but can murder be charged with murder?


16 posted on 06/01/2009 5:18:49 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: A_Former_Democrat
I wonder how many see the irony in Sawyer's comment?
As a Lutheran of a conservative synod, I am really troubled by the placement of these two men in front of the church's sign. To those who are unaware of the differences among the synods it really misrepresents the Lutheran doctrine. Unfortunately, ELCA is the largest and most controversial, and therefore gets all the press.

17 posted on 06/01/2009 5:24:23 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I am fascinated by the double standard here...

When was the last time the President issued an outraged statement when one of our soldiers was killed in the line of duty? When was the last time an anchor got choked up when someone anonymously died in a car accident, for example?

Why is this murder any more tragic than any other in the U.S.? The answer is, they're all tragic, but liberals will politicize anything to gain a perceived advantage.

On a side note, many on this forum buy into the notion that government persecution will occur in earnest in the near future. IMO, this is the kind of catalyzing event that might bring that type of environment; however, I think in the end it will be some kind of 9/11 sized event that will be twisted to scapegoat parts of society.

18 posted on 06/01/2009 5:25:57 AM PDT by IFly4Him
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To: stayathomemom
To those who are unaware of the differences among the synods it really misrepresents the Lutheran doctrine.

You're right, of course, but this is the media that couldn't tell the difference between sunni and shia for months and seemed to feel no shame in the fact.

My guess is that the Missouri Synod will feel the pressure from the fallout from its liberal cousin.

19 posted on 06/01/2009 5:30:52 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: rbmillerjr

Only Wilt Chamberlain could do 60,000 abortions.


20 posted on 06/01/2009 5:45:21 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: FatherofFive
At least they are "reporting" something instead of making it up.

Not necessarily. The tweets in question could easily have been written by a staffer...

21 posted on 06/01/2009 5:48:49 AM PDT by MortMan (Power without responsibility-the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: freeplancer

Didn’t Wilt father about that many as well?


22 posted on 06/01/2009 5:51:31 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: paulycy
Ridiculing the murder of this doctor or how it is reported does nothing but play into the left’s hand. Counterproductive, period.

All one need do is take a look at the response to Judge Sotomayor’s being labeled “empathetic”. For cripes sake, to most anyone who gives any thought to what a judge should be, empathy is regarded as a important quality.

The left can try to marginalize us, but let's not lend our own hands to the process. Sheesh!

23 posted on 06/01/2009 5:57:30 AM PDT by pikkel (Just trying to figure stuff out.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

There is no crying in baby killing.


24 posted on 06/01/2009 6:00:05 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Hey GOP follow Dick Cheney's lead)
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To: stayathomemom

I agree. I have spent a lifetime in the LCMS (c0nservative synod) and hate being painted with that brush. I have heard that the conservative synods have started calling them selves confessional Lutherans (following the Augsburg confession)

I hate to give up the name Lutheran, with its heritage, but if this group of apostate libs does not stop calling itself Lutheran, we may need to call ourselves something else.


25 posted on 06/01/2009 6:04:34 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Some numbers to keep in perspective as you talk to folks about this today and in upcoming days:

1. George Tiller operated a clinic that specialized in late term abortions, after 21 weeks. That means his specialty was the killing of babies that were VIABLE, meaning, they could live outside the womb. This is murder of convenience.

2. Mr. Tiller admitted performing 60,000 abortions of this type. That is the population of a small city.

3. Mr. Tiller made a lot of money with his bloody hands, corrupting the politicians in Kansas, including the Governor, now the HHS Secretary under Obama, in order to keep his baby murdering cash cow going.

4. Mr. Tiller’s clinic broke various laws intended to protect minors—not reporting cases where girls under the legal age of consent were made pregnant by older males.

5. There have been more than fifty million abortions since 1973, and that doesn’t include those in California and NY, which do not report their numbers. The CDC does not require reporting the number of abortions—these numbers come from the only source that compiles such statistics—the Alan Guttman Institute—which is a wholly owned subsidiary of-wow-Planned Parenthood. So, there is a structural bias to under-report the true number of abortions.

6. There are still over one million abortions a year after 36 years of sex education, condom use, etc. The abortion procedure usually involves active dissection of a live baby, pulling out the parts, and reassembling them to make sure parts are not left in the mother. No anesthesia is given to the baby as it is dismembered. We would not kill a dog or a cat in this barbaric manner. Saline abortions involve the injection of a salt solution into the amniotic sac, which literally burns the baby alive until dead. This is called providing a health service to women.

7. After 36 years, we are now into our third generation of American women undergoing abortions. Of the fifty million babies aborted since 1973, about half would have been females. Considering the number of females aborted between 1973 and 1991(the youngest of this group would be 16—child bearing age), these females would have had as many of ten million children by now. So we are missing fifty plus ten—sixty million people in America today.

8. How many doctors, inventors, educators, nurses, teachers,fathers and mothers have we killed in 36 years? What would have been their contribution to society?


26 posted on 06/01/2009 6:05:03 AM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hopefully, Tiller’s punishment in hell will be to suffer the pain of being aborted over and over and over and over again, unceasing for all eternity.


27 posted on 06/01/2009 6:05:52 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: MortMan
The tweets in question could easily have been written by a staffer...

I forgot to put the sarcasm off '/s' at the end of my comment. Of course this is bogus. Just another opinion instead of real news.

28 posted on 06/01/2009 6:06:59 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED. Barack OBORTION is a close second.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Now all the “moderates” who didn’t pay attention will learn what a fanatic obuma is on the isue of abortion.

I see a big blow-back against the abortionists - including the rat party - and the Goebbel’s media for not reporting facts about their Marxist “messiah.”

Left wingers always push the most extreme positions that finally doom them, and making a saint out of Tiller will be another nail in the leftists’ coffin.


29 posted on 06/01/2009 6:08:37 AM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: sergeantdave

Iam sorry but as my first post, Murder is Murder-
I Grieve for the Dr. and the unborn.


30 posted on 06/01/2009 6:32:44 AM PDT by xcable56
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I was upset with the MSM this weekend for imediately assuming he was killed by a pro-life extremist, without any infomation on the killer’s identity.


31 posted on 06/01/2009 6:32:48 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: A_Former_Democrat

On March 5th, 1953 I was confused as a young boy, why my mother and father were GLAD a person died... Josef Stalin’s life ended, and I realized the bitter sweet emotions, glad it’s over, and the horrors he caused has ended, but sad..that law and justice were never applied to a man who caused death upon infants...


32 posted on 06/01/2009 6:36:52 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: exit82

bump


33 posted on 06/01/2009 6:56:39 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: jaydubya2

wouldn’t it be great if Jesus allowed tiller to come back for one more interview with ms. sawyer. i wonder if words alone could describe his hell?


34 posted on 06/01/2009 6:59:37 AM PDT by wheathead
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To: MortMan
Yes, citing an anonymous “tweet” is exactly the equivalent of saying “people are saying...”, or “public opinion about the event has shifted...”; etc, other than that it gives it a fig leaf of supposed credibility.
35 posted on 06/01/2009 6:59:54 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: IFly4Him

“When was the last time the President issued an outraged statement when one of our soldiers was killed in the line of duty?”

You are absolutely spot-on! People are murdered every day, yet 0bama speaks specifically about this one. I guess because Tiller was a giant in one of 0bama’s favorite industries.

As I said prior, I pray for redemption of Tiller’s soul, but I and glad he’s out of commission.


36 posted on 06/01/2009 7:42:15 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: ScottinVA

but I and glad = but, I am glad


37 posted on 06/01/2009 7:42:39 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: Aquinasfan
"We lost one of the greatest mass-murderers in American history, Charlie. I'm all verklempt. Talk among yourselves."

LMFAO!
38 posted on 06/01/2009 7:43:51 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Has ABC established a new journalistic standard: henceforth, is it OK to cite anonymous internet posts to demonstrate public opinion on an issue?

More credible than ABC's *usual* sources.

39 posted on 06/01/2009 7:43:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
She's crying because she realizes that MURDER IS WRONG.


40 posted on 06/01/2009 7:47:52 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

What does Sibelius have to say?


41 posted on 06/01/2009 8:16:56 AM PDT by Mamzelle (BRING CAMERA EQUIP TO TEA PARTIES--TAPE THE DISRUPTORS)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Was she drunk on air again?


42 posted on 06/01/2009 8:21:01 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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I think the most overlooked aspect of this whole affair is that the good doctor was murdered with a handgun. I rarely condone murder and won’t make an exception in this case. It’s just as wrong for some whack job who thinks he’s doing God’s work to snuff this abortionist as it is for death loving abortionists to kill babies so they don’t inconvenience any of the president’s offspring or for euthanasists to off grandpa because he was becoming an embarrassment at family reunions. But where are the gun grabbers? There has to be a reason they aren’t out in force and I’m left wondering what that reason is. My first guess would be that the church was a gun-free zone. It seems hard to imagine that so long after Matt cleaned up Dodge City there would still be places where law abiding citizens are denied the right to self defense there in Kansas, but it’s all I can think of that would keep the gun control crowd quiet on this one. Anybody know if the crime scene was a gun-free zone? It would be ironic to learn that “Killer” Tiller might have been spared if law abiding citizens had been afforded their constitutional right to self defense.


43 posted on 06/01/2009 8:30:09 AM PDT by KarinG1 (You're just jealous because the voices don't talk to you.)
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To: xcable56

I grieve for his soul, which he sold to the devil, but not for the man himself. He made his choices. The babies he butchered never had a choice (or a chance).


44 posted on 06/01/2009 10:13:30 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

maybe crying over her own abortions?

The murder of Tiller might make some of these liberals examine their consciences.


45 posted on 06/01/2009 2:55:04 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: exit82
Tiller did 60,000 of these:

46 posted on 06/01/2009 3:02:02 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: Marysecretary; All

47 posted on 06/01/2009 3:14:03 PM PDT by potlatch ( When You Change The Way You Look At Things - The Things You Look At Change)
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To: Palladin

You might catch it from some for posting that picture, but not from me.

You can’t confront evil unless you have seen it.

And this is evil.

To tear an unborn, viable baby from the womb and to kill it, in its place of protection, is unspeakably evil.

God says that He made man in His image. This child is a unique creation, fully equipped to embark on a life of 70 plus years, and to have children of its own some day in the future.

For girls, they are born with all of the eggs they will pass in the future.

When an unborn child is killed, all of that child’s future children and posterity are cut off—forever.

Who among us would want to bear responsibility for that?

Mrs. exit82 and I have fought against abortion for over 20 years. I have seen this and worse, as far as pictures go.

I still grieve over each one that I see, for it represents millions I have not seen.

God is not mocked. What a man sows, he shall reap.

Mr. Tiller’s fate certainly shows God is not a liar.


48 posted on 06/01/2009 7:15:10 PM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: KarinG1

Once again, I reiterate; I’ve seen these horrors up close and had to deal with gloating, sniggering abortion crews and it is amazing that anyone can compare eliminating this one man with his wanton, repeated murder of VIABLE pre-born children. Think of stumbling upon a terrorist preparing to detonate a WMD that would surely kill 60,000 people and deciding not to kill him since it would be equally wrong to take this one life. No, I am not condoning or advocating cold-blooded murder of abortionists, but I pray that some day our society awakens to the real horror here. Nowhere in all of the msm reporting is anyone clearly describing what he actually did, day in and day out, and gleefully to boot. The day is surely coming when we will all be judged for having not done everything necessary to stop this abomination. I’ve studied the Holocaust all my life and deeply believe that abortion is an even worse crime against humanity. WWJD? Do you think that Jesus would’ve just stood by and smiled and chatted politely with UNREPENTANT murderers of the most helpless among us? There is the doctrine of the “Just War” for a reason. If pre-emptive action had been taken in the mid-30’s against Hitler, Tojo, etal tens of millions could’ve been saved. At the time, no one wanted to take action against Hitler since he’d not attacked anyone (except for a few thousand Jews and other undesirables). Search out interviews done with now adult survivors of abortions and ponder their fate if their murderer had been more thorough. search out people in 20 years who may be alive because of the tragic event of yesterday. This is a most painful dilemna with no easy answer. For me, I will not mourn the death of this monster. he was every bit as evil as Himmler, Heydrich, Mengele, Frank, etal. We are all sinners, but do not ever try to tell me that Adolf Hitler and Mother Teresa were equally deserving of mercy, consideration, protection, and judgement. MAY GOD HAVE MERCY AND HEAL OUR LAND.


49 posted on 06/01/2009 8:02:28 PM PDT by karbine
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To: karbine

That’s a real good issue, karbine, and thanks for bringing it up. I hope you’ll stay on top of that angle and follow up on it. I’m personally more interested in the handgun murder aspect of the story and have still been searching, to no avail, for information about whether the firearm was legally possessed, etc. That information seems a bit difficult to obtain at this time, but I haven’t given up. In fact I determined earlier that Wyatt Earp once banned open carry in Ellsworth, Kansas as part of a ploy to capture Ben Thompson, who had murdered the previous sheriff in cold blood. Thompson later escaped from jail and I’m trying now to find out what the final disposition of his case was.


50 posted on 06/01/2009 8:51:15 PM PDT by KarinG1 (You're just jealous because the voices don't talk to you.)
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