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Terrorism in Wichita
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 6/2/9 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 06/02/2009 8:01:29 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: balls; TurtleUp

You said to another Freeper — Let’s put aside the legal issue. Are you glad he is gone?

I’m glad the abortionist is gone. And I know that the shooter must be given the death penalty for shooting the abortionist too. And I’ll be glad the shooter is gone, too — when he’s given the death penalty...


51 posted on 06/02/2009 9:04:42 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: balls
The serial killer, George Tiller, will kill not one more alive child. Yes, this monster was stopped.

What Roeder did was illegal. What Tiller did was made legal by a corrupt judicial system, not by consent of the people. Tiller's Hell would be no less heinous if he had to spend eternity having Roeder tell him what he did to gain his wealth was evil ... but then, there is little to persuade some of us that Roeder actually was pro-life since he has murdered someone and brought such bad 'karma' upon his family and those who are pro-life.

52 posted on 06/02/2009 9:04:56 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: SmithL

“Thus by use of violence, the shooter set out to achieve that which he could not achieve through the democratic political process.”

Slap a kaffiyeh on Roeder and he'd get a Nobel Peace Prize.

53 posted on 06/02/2009 9:07:18 AM PDT by Cooter
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To: Star Traveler

Very well, then, let me know when we can begin to form this new nation of laws and I will be there to help.


54 posted on 06/02/2009 9:08:37 AM PDT by gorilla_warrior (Metrosexual hairless RINOs for bipartisan-ness)
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To: gorilla_warrior

I don’t think it’s going to happen, because the people in the nation don’t want it to happen. And I don’t think either you or I or others can change the minds of those many people, either (that’s in my estimation, which would be very good if I were wrong, too...).

And thus, it will result in the judgment of God upon the nation for the killing of those 50 million over the years.

There’s what I know should be done, and there’s what I know will happen. What I know will happen is the judgment of God upon this nation for this...


55 posted on 06/02/2009 9:12:27 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: SmithL
It was terrorism," according to the Associated Press.

No, it's a "man-man disaster" .... or does that only apply to muslims terror bombings and stuff?

56 posted on 06/02/2009 9:16:36 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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To: Star Traveler
I don’t think it’s going to happen, because the people in the nation don’t want it to happen. And I don’t think either you or I or others can change the minds of those many people, either

I think one of the reasons liberals are so afraid of Governor Palin is that she may be the one who could change people's minds about both abortion and the rule of law. I hope she is the one or that we will find the right one for 2012.

57 posted on 06/02/2009 9:17:21 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: pnh102

Based on the headline, I thought she was talking about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Massacre


58 posted on 06/02/2009 9:17:27 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: TurtleUp

Well..., I can always hope, along with doing what I can, as a citizen and voter — but I’m not encouraged by what I see now, in our society.


59 posted on 06/02/2009 9:20:09 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: TurtleUp

I understand and respect your opinion, but I must be honest about this. In a thread some time ago I said that I do not value the lives of people who torture dogs. To me the lives of those people are worth zero. Likewise, Tiller’s life is worthless to me because of his actions. From a practical standpoint, this means I won’t join in condemning the guy who made him go away.


60 posted on 06/02/2009 9:21:30 AM PDT by balls
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To: SmithL

I don’t think that this guy (i.e., the shooter) should have been committing murder to do away with another murderer.

BUT, having said that, why didn’t that shooter kill the women who had abortions — as being *more responsible* for the murder of the unborn — than the abortionist?

There couldn’t be any abortions if the women didn’t have them in the first place. You would have an abortionist with no business if no women came.

So, the women who have abortions should be given the death penalty — before the abortionist is...

[ that is..., if we could ever change the laws on abortions in this country...]


61 posted on 06/02/2009 9:28:35 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: balls
I understand and respect your opinion, but I must be honest about this. In a thread some time ago I said that I do not value the lives of people who torture dogs. To me the lives of those people are worth zero. Likewise, Tiller’s life is worthless to me because of his actions. From a practical standpoint, this means I won’t join in condemning the guy who made him go away.

The right answer is to restore the rule of law, to discredit Supreme Court excesses, and to pack the court with Justices who believe in the Constitution as written. Those who think race, foreign laws, or changing community values should be a factor in interpreting the law have no business on the Court, and we need to get decent people who believe in written laws back on the Supreme Court, where they belong. With Jutices who believe in the Constitution, Roe will be overturned, and this issue can be decided democratically - as it should have been in the first place.

Joining obama and liberals in abandoning the rule of law is exactly the wrong answer, even to this challenge.

62 posted on 06/02/2009 9:29:41 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: SmithL
oh, puleeze.

Go lecture the poor dopes on the left.

63 posted on 06/02/2009 9:39:26 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: SmithL
I understand that anti-abortion activists considered Tiller's practice of late-term abortions to be heinous in and of itself - and they had a moral argument. But that moral argument is undermined by the shooting of a doctor - in a church, of all places.

It's more than moral argument to stay killing fully-formed babies is an act of murder. It's a FACT. It diminishes the humanity of infants to claim that such acts are merely a matter of opinion.

64 posted on 06/02/2009 9:48:20 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: TurtleUp

A Supreme Court that follows the US Constitution as written is the first half of the answer. The second half is finding a better way for citizens to cause the Constitution to be invoked (to avoid problems with Presidential citizenship, for example).


65 posted on 06/02/2009 9:50:44 AM PDT by balls
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To: SmithL

Terrorism in Wichita.........but not in Arknasas.

There is, 27 hours after the second event, ONE politician who has spoken out in condemnation of both acts.

Her name is Sarah Palin.


66 posted on 06/02/2009 10:19:34 AM PDT by cookcounty (He who controls the Language controls the Debate.)
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THE BRIEFING ROOM

THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary

___________________________________________________
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE May 31, 2009

STATEMENT FROM THE PRESIDENT ON THE MURDER OF DR. GEORGE TILLER

I am shocked and outraged by the murder of Dr. George Tiller as he attended church services this morning. However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence.

_________________________
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

On the Issue of the Little Rock attack on US soldiers 27 hours ago....

“............zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.............”


67 posted on 06/02/2009 10:27:11 AM PDT by cookcounty (He who controls the Language controls the Debate.)
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Thus by use of violence, the shooter set out to achieve that which he could not achieve through the democratic political process.

The reason he "could not achieve" what he wished "through the democratic political process" is that abortion was not imposed on this country by any democratic process, but by judicial fiat.

Put it back into the "democratic political process" where it belongs, and you'll have fewer Scott Roeders.

68 posted on 06/02/2009 10:43:27 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: SmithL

I agree. But it’s funny that they will plaster his name across the world as a “terrorist” but they won’t do the same for the POS who shot and killed the military recruiter in Arkansas this morning.


69 posted on 06/02/2009 11:32:28 AM PDT by StarCMC (Sometimes you need a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald Reagan.)
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To: SmithL
Terrorism my patoot.
One mass murdering(1) (cough) 'doctor'(2) was killed by a nutjob with a history of mental illness. And if Tiller's name was Jones and he worked a as Mechanic the headlines would be... 'Man Killed In Church by Mentally Ill Gunman'.

Now. You wan to talk 'Terrorism'. Talk of the two U.S. Army Privates shot in front of the Arkansas Recruiting station (one died) by a Black convert to Islam (Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad), solely because they were in the U.S. Army. THAT, dear Debra is Terrorism! (and a Hate Crime. But that's another matter)

an aside, I must have missed the story on Eric Holder ordering U.S. Marshals to every Military Recruiting Station to protect the recruiters from other TERRORISTS like he did late Sunday for abortion doctors across the country. Or is that order from AG Holder still forthcoming? (((((( crickets ))))))

(1) Tiller performed 60,000 'late term' abortions in his career.
(2) 'doctor'? A fundamental medical precept for doctor's is 'First, Do No Harm'. Ergo, Tiller was no 'doctor'. Right now Tiller and Josef Mengele are comparing notes in HELL.

70 posted on 06/02/2009 1:10:24 PM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Star Traveler

I wish for the same thing but it will never happen.


71 posted on 06/03/2009 6:03:16 AM PDT by Piquaboy (Military veteran of 22 years in Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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