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Will U.S. Jews Stand With Israel - Or Obama?
The Jewish Press ^ | 6/3/'09 | Jonathan Braun

Posted on 06/03/2009 1:43:42 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

American Jews overwhelmingly voted for Barack Obama, the Candidate of Change, despite credible warnings and ample evidence that he would obsessively seek to create a Palestinian state at Israel's expense and "engage" nuclear-arming, Islamist Iran.

After four months of Change, Obama's support in the Jewish community seems rock solid. Besides, many Jews say, Obama's appointment of two Jews to key White House positions - Rahm Emanuel as chief of staff and David Axelrod as presidential senior adviser - proves Obama is OK for Israel. So what if the meeting with Netanyahu didn't go as well as first advertised? Bibi's a right-winger, anyway. Under Obama, there was a kosher Passover Seder in the White House. Progress! Hope! Change!

Hmm. The head-spinning, stomach-turning developments make this lifelong Jewish supporter of Israel think Hitler made two big blunders in his quest for world domination. He attacked the Soviet Union - and he did not invite American Jewish leaders to a catered kosher lunch in Berlin before the war.

Seriously. Had Hitler been able to hide his fanatical hatred of Jews for only a few hours, he might have been able to mobilize liberal American Jewish opinion in favor of a policy of appeasement toward Nazi Germany - perhaps, even, a formal pledge of non-interference in Germany's internal affairs.

Admittedly, a free kosher lunch might not have been enough to win over the so-called Jewish leaders. The Nazi madman probably would have had to appoint a Jewish adviser (on Jewish affairs, say) to accomplish his aim.

A high-level Jewish adviser - yes! That would have worked wonders for the Fuhrer. The Jewish leaders would have returned home to reassure their concerned fellow Jews and the American media that Hitler had no intention of starting a war, regardless of Germany's ominous rearmament and military buildup; that he was instead interested in forging a closer relationship between Germany and the United States, one that could possibly even lead to an alliance of some sort to preserve peace in Europe.

As for "the Jewish Problem," the American Jewish bigwigs would have said that while some Jews were indeed suffering in Germany, there really was room for progress - quietly, of course, behind the scenes. Quiet, patient, principled diplomacy - that's the ticket!

And so it would have gone. Dialogue and diplomacy are the answers, the Jewish leaders would have said; no sanctions, no big, public protests - they would only make matters worse for Germany's Jews and needlessly antagonize the Nazis. No talk of armed intervention or future conflict, heaven forbid.

The impact of their meeting with Herr Hitler and call for engagement and dialogue would have been instant (or what passed for instant in the time before television and the Internet). Overnight, the brave minority warning of a rising, imperialist threat across the ocean would have been marginalized -maybe forever. Following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, there could have been a crucial decision by the U.S. government to avoid or delay declaring war on Germany as well as Japan, perhaps accompanied by a presidential speech reminding the public of Germany's great contributions to Western civilization and culture and to the shaping of American society.

Though the anti-Semitic rabble - the foot soldiers in armbands and jackboots and white sheets - would have been appalled by Hitler's meeting with Jewish leaders, the Fuhrer's more sophisticated American supporters and sympathizers would have understood his diabolically clever move. Influential isolationists and fascists - the Pat Buchanans of that era - would have laughed all the way to the next America First or German American Bund (or Silver Shirts, or Black Legion, or Ku Klux Klan) rally.

The Roger Cohen of that day - there is always a Roger Cohen whenever and wherever Jewish communities are threatened with annihilation and persecution - would surely have written a series of articles for The New York Times about Jewish conditions in Germany being not so bad after all, despite the beatings and racial laws, the persecution and the humiliation, the incessant anti-Semitic propaganda. (In fact, the liberal Jewish columnist Walter Lippmann wrote approvingly of Hitler in the late 1920s, advising his readers that the Nazi leader would "moderate" his views upon achieving power.)

Obama is no Hitler. Obviously. God help us if that were the case. But Obama's policies and actions are giving new Hitlers - the leaders of Islamist Iran - time to develop nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles capable of destroying Israel and bringing America to its knees.

In other words, Obama's appeasement of Iran and betrayal of Israel is effectively helping to prepare the ground for a new Holocaust and a new world war.

And American Jews and Jewish organizations - seemingly slavishly bound to a Democratic Party with a left wing that now views the establishment of Israel as a mistake - are going along for the ride. American Jewish voters overwhelmingly chose Obama over John McCain, a proven friend of Israel, and they don't seem at all ready to jump ship. They are not even close to the exit ramp.

What will it take for American Jews to stand up and be counted? Would a call by Obama for a Palestinian capital in Jerusalem open their eyes? Probably not. In contrast with bible-believing Christians and observant Jews, liberal Jews are fashionably forsaking Israel's capital. Strong support for Israel is so yesterday ... so ... Bush/Cheney.

The time is fast approaching for American Jewry to decide between loyalty to a political party that bears no resemblance to that which their parents and grandparents adored for generations and their professed love of Israel whose security, along with the security of the United States, is being undermined by everything Obama is presently doing, has done, and plans to do.

With whom do you stand, American Jews - America and Israel or Obama and the Democratic Party?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy
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To: GOPsterinMA

If US Jews don’t care what happens to Israel, why should US goyim?


41 posted on 06/03/2009 2:30:47 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Will U.S. Jews Stand With Israel - Or Obama?

Maybe they could stand with the US.

42 posted on 06/03/2009 2:32:15 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

This Jew and his family stand for Israel, without question or hesitation.

Pharaohbama is nothing, he is a nobody, a child, compared to those who have come against the Jews, like the Pharaohs, the Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Spanish, Russian Czars and the Nazis. They are but dust, a stain on human history; the Jews are still here, and always will be (despite losses from massacres, forced conversions and intermarriage). These liberal Jews, the ones that have found a new Golden Calf in modern Liberalism and a false Moschiach in Pharaohbama, they, too will go by the wayside. Some will learn, and return to the morality of their fathers, the rest will cease to be Jews in a generation or two since they don’t care one whit about their heritage or anything traditional.


43 posted on 06/03/2009 2:33:54 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Da Coyote

Those who darn Israel shall be darned themselves. ;)


44 posted on 06/03/2009 2:35:20 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: Romulus
Maybe they could stand with the US.

Maybe standing with Israel IS standing with the US. This country is NOT Obama, he's merely the President for another few years. The permanent interests of this country lie with Israel and its people, not our enemies in the Arab World. Opposing Obama is (IMHO) standing with the US.

45 posted on 06/03/2009 2:36:33 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Self-evident from the election numbers, U.S. Jews will stand with Obama. Not hard to figure out when you also consider that the vast majority of U.S. are liberal-oriented and against many of the Israel’s policies.


46 posted on 06/03/2009 2:40:47 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Most will stand with Obama.

Evangelical Christians seem to care more deeply about Israel’s survival than some Jewish voters. Hussein is not their friend.


48 posted on 06/03/2009 2:45:41 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

IMO Jews stand with Obama primarily because he stands against conservatism, which in the minds of many Jewish voters means right wing, which, alas, is equated with Nazism. Yes, I know Nazi means national socialism, but liberals, even “intelligent” Jewish liberals, don’t think things through that far.


49 posted on 06/03/2009 2:56:18 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: I Hate Obama

You’re a provacateur from DU, aren’t you?


50 posted on 06/03/2009 3:06:35 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vesamu 'et-shemi `al-Benei Yisra'el, va'Ani avarekhem.)
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To: Romulus
Will U.S. Jews Stand With Israel - Or Obama?

Maybe they could stand with the US.

Why should they stand with a country founded by heretical puritanical freemasons?

Shame on you, Romulus. I would have never taken you for an Americanist.

51 posted on 06/03/2009 3:09:41 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vesamu 'et-shemi `al-Benei Yisra'el, va'Ani avarekhem.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
ZC, I'm not even Jewish and I saw this coming from miles away. I don't get the overwhelming Jewish support for Obama.

Maybe after tomorrow's speech they will get it. Our promise to form a new USA-Islam brotherhood. Maybe not.

52 posted on 06/03/2009 3:09:54 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Fee

No one can force a single Jew to accept anything they don’t believe in. There is no fear of evangelical Christians. Annoyance maybe, but not fear. You’re saying it is better to be killed by a terrorist than to be offered a belief system? Nobody dies from a belief system. Except maybe Islam. Evangelical Christians don’t cut your head off or blow themselves up. It is against our belief system.


53 posted on 06/03/2009 3:17:53 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

No. Look at your Bible it does say that.


54 posted on 06/03/2009 3:19:16 PM PDT by I Hate Obama (Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.)
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To: Sender
ZC, I'm not even Jewish and I saw this coming from miles away.

I'm not Jewish either, and I saw it coming too.

I don't get the overwhelming Jewish support for Obama.

Maybe after tomorrow's speech they will get it. Our promise to form a new USA-Islam brotherhood. Maybe not.

The majority of American Jews are liberals who came to America to get away from their rabbis (it wasn't really the Czar they were running from). And they're entire self-definition is based on being non-chr*stian. Chr*stians believe in a G-d who "interferes" in the world? Then we don't. They believe in Genesis? Then we declare Genesis a chr*stian invention. They put up monuments to the "Ten Commandments? We want them torn down." They are literally the most chr*sto-centric religious group on earth, taking their cues on every position from chr*stians. And why do they do this? Because they are burdened with guilt from introducing the "reactionary, bigoted, intolerant" Biblical G-d to the world, so they pretend they didn't do it. The chr*stians introduced him. Those people who massacred Canaanites in the Book of Joshua? That wasn't us; that was some time-traveling Southern Baptist Ku-Klukkers or medieval Spanish inquisitionists. Why else would they insert themselves into every situation where the Israelite/Canaanite paradigm is being repeated in order to side with the "Canaanites?" Guilt, that's why. Guilt, guilt, guilt. And all the decadent Weimar philosophy in the world can change the fact that they are the Original Rednecks. And they hate it.

Of course, I am describing alienated liberal Jews here. The leaders of Orthodoxy--the genuine rulers of `Am Yisra'el are the Gedolei-HaDor, the holy Torah Sages whose names are unknown to most liberal Jews and to almost all non-Jews.

55 posted on 06/03/2009 3:19:40 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vesamu 'et-shemi `al-Benei Yisra'el, va'Ani avarekhem.)
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To: Romulus
Maybe they could stand with the US.

Well, would that mean standing with Obama and his policies towards Israel, or with the US Senate and its 76 votes affirming the safety and existence of Israel? The two might not be compatible as Obama policies become more clear.

The US Congress with turn on Obama if his policies begin to endanger Israel, and I expect his policies will unless he changes directions soon.

56 posted on 06/03/2009 3:20:42 PM PDT by Will88
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To: I Hate Obama
No. Look at your Bible it does say that.

I hate to break it to you, sunshine, but my Bible doesn't say that.

Confusion like yours is what happens when people invent new "religions" and write new "holy books" that are unauthorized by G-d.

And btw, you still sound like an agent provocateur from DU.

57 posted on 06/03/2009 3:22:32 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vesamu 'et-shemi `al-Benei Yisra'el, va'Ani avarekhem.)
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To: Will88; Romulus
If I were you I wouldn't spend a great deal of time arguing with Romulus, Will. He's one of those ultra-traditionalist Catholics, and they are very, very different from Fundamentalist Protestants.
59 posted on 06/03/2009 3:24:09 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vesamu 'et-shemi `al-Benei Yisra'el, va'Ani avarekhem.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

If the question must be asked, then the answer is clear.

O


60 posted on 06/03/2009 3:26:12 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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