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The slow, painful death of junk DNA (what will the Evos do without it?)
CMI ^ | June 9, 2009 | Robert W. Carter, Ph.D.

Posted on 06/09/2009 8:09:42 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

So-called “junk DNA” has fallen on hard times. Once the poster child of evolutionary theory, its status has been increasingly challenged over the past several years. Functions for junk DNA have been cited at other places on this website1 and in the Journal of Creation2. In The Great Dothan Creation Evolution Debate,3 my opponent’s main argument, to which he returned again and again, rested on junk DNA. I warned that this was an argument from silence, that ‘form follows function’, and that this was akin to the old vestigial organ argument (and thus is easily falsifiable once functions are found). We did not have to wait long, however, because a new study has brought the notion of junk DNA closer to the dustbin of discarded evolutionary speculations....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; christian; creation; evolution; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign; science
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To: GodGunsGuts

If you don’t know why mock the efforts of people who are trying to find out?


21 posted on 06/09/2009 8:45:38 AM PDT by DManA
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To: GodGunsGuts
The slow, painful death of junk DNA (what will the Evos do without it?)

I've always been suspicious when a so-called "expert" geneticist says that 'junk dna' is not really needed and doesn't do anything. After all, how would you feel if you had your engine rebuilt and the mechanic handed you a bunch of parts that "weren't needed"?

22 posted on 06/09/2009 8:49:21 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Baraq Hussein mohammed 0bama - Muslim Socialist Enemy of America!)
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To: DManA

Ask GGG to explain “Gay” in terms of “intelligent design”


23 posted on 06/09/2009 8:51:23 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: GodGunsGuts

These people watched The Flintstones and believed it! Dinosaurs and people living together! And they want to have rational debates with scientists!?

Bwahahhahahahah


24 posted on 06/09/2009 8:52:19 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: xcamel

“Gay” has nothing to do with the origins argument.

It is simply man giving in to unnatural “desires”. I could give you the verse, but don’t think you’d appreciate it.


25 posted on 06/09/2009 8:53:27 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

The computer in your car contains all the information for all the options availible on your **series** of cars, but half the code is turned off because you don’t have those **options** on your **model**.

Does this make it easier to understand?


26 posted on 06/09/2009 8:55:49 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


27 posted on 06/09/2009 8:57:43 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: DManA
I only mock the Temple of Darwin when they try to pass-off their evo-religion as science. And the fact that you cannot see this means that you made the ultimate sacrifice to the Bearded Buddha of Naturalism a long, long time ago:


28 posted on 06/09/2009 9:02:18 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Excellent point. Made all the more relevant by the fact that said engine was designed!


29 posted on 06/09/2009 9:04:08 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Born to Conserve

Is these the kinds of cartoonish caricutures you resort to when the debate goes over your head?


30 posted on 06/09/2009 9:09:41 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Science is a useful tool to discover God through His creation. It takes faith to follow where the clues take you.


31 posted on 06/09/2009 9:11:26 AM PDT by DManA
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To: GodGunsGuts
Is these the kinds of cartoonish caricutures you resort to when the debate goes over your head?

projection pr& JEK sh&n: the tendency to ascribe to another person feelings, thoughts, or attitudes present in oneself

32 posted on 06/09/2009 9:26:46 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b

I’m glad you are finally coming to terms with your M.O. Now do something about it.


33 posted on 06/09/2009 9:34:49 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Popcorn popping...


34 posted on 06/09/2009 9:35:42 AM PDT by B-Chan
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To: GodGunsGuts
Is these the kinds of cartoonish caricutures you resort to when the debate goes over your head?

You mean like post #6?

35 posted on 06/09/2009 9:41:39 AM PDT by gdani (I've got a new road under my wheels)
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To: xcamel

You have no clue what you’re talking about. As I have stated many times, Project ENCODE has demonstrated that at least 93% of the genome is functional. Moreover, the ability to turn on genes that produce teeth, tails, scales, etc, is much better explained by a code that was created by a common designer. We see this all the time in designs created by humans—especially with respect to computer software. Conversely, we have never observed random processes plus survival create the same...that is pure speculation by the Temple of Darwinistic Materialism.


36 posted on 06/09/2009 9:58:57 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

There’s a tremendous amount of rewriting of history there. The discovery that there seemed to be a lot of dna that had no function came as a surprise - and many objected that such dna could exist BECAUSE of Darwinism. The notion of “neutral selection” came many years AFTER the discovery of such dna and it took many years to become a popular idea (and, IIRC, it’s based primarily on the fact that different codons code for the same amino acid and not “junk dna”).

As for the mathematics - according to the fossil record, it’s expected that humans share a common ancestor with chimps about 6-7 million years ago. Various studies have come out saying that humans have about 100-200 mutations per conception. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation_rate)

Let’s put it at 150, with generation time of 20 years, and 6 million years separating us and chimps, that would be:
6,000,000/20 = 300,000. 300,000 * 150 = 45 million.

So we’re already at 45 million. And don’t forget that chimps have been mutating during that time as well, so we’d have to double that to 90 million. There’s a lot of uncertainty with the mutation rate, but knock the estimate in half and it still plenty high enough.


37 posted on 06/09/2009 10:07:22 AM PDT by goodusername
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To: GodGunsGuts
Exactly the same way having the sun rising in the east and setting in the west is explained by having the earth at the center of the solar system.

sheesh.

38 posted on 06/09/2009 10:09:45 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

Don’t blame creationists for placing the Earth at the center of the solar system. That came from the pagan astrologers and astronomers of Greece and Rome.


39 posted on 06/09/2009 10:24:57 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: xcamel

Heck...ask GGG to explain how HIV does not cause AIDS.

....or why all those cows and humans that drowned in the Flood that also killed all the dinosaurs were not fossilized right there with the dinosaurs.


40 posted on 06/09/2009 10:27:26 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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