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Forced drinking of urine at Boy Scout camp blamed on racial slur
http://www.ocala.com/article/20090615/ARTICLES/906159973/0/OPINION ^ | June 15, 2009 | Lise Fisher

Posted on 06/16/2009 3:36:32 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla

One adult and three teenagers at a Boy Scout camp are accused of forcing a boy to drink human urine because they were "teaching him a lesson" for supposedly making racial slurs to another Scout, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office reported Monday.
Investigators arrested Joseph Wendell Reid, 21, two 16-year-olds, and a 15-year-old, all from Ocala, last week on a charge of kidnapping.
Officers allege the four held a 12-year-old boy against his will, first taping his mouth shut and then forcing him to drink urine, according to the Sheriff's Office.
The four were attending Camp Shands at Baden Powell Road near Hawthorne, the Sheriff's Office reported.
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Sears said the four people arrested and the 12-year-old boy were from different Boy Scout troops.
Reid was a volunteer leader in scouting and was with the troop of the other Ocala residents involved in the incident, Sears said.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocala.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: abuse; discipline; kidnapping; scouts; slur; summercamp; urlisnotthesource
By careful reading it appears that the white 12 year old scout used a racist term against a black scout. Other older scouts and an adult scout leader grabbed him and gave him the choice of drinking urine or being beaten up. One of the thugs filmed it on a cell phone.
1 posted on 06/16/2009 3:36:32 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time ...

To morons.

2 posted on 06/16/2009 3:40:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are a ruled people, serfs to the Federal Oligarchy -- and the Tree of Liberty thirsts)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

How many of the thugs were black and how many were white?


3 posted on 06/16/2009 3:41:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

That actually ranks among the sickest things I’ve ever read. wonders {{who’s piss was it?}}


4 posted on 06/16/2009 3:41:42 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Here's the 21-year-old.

Friggin' homo.

5 posted on 06/16/2009 3:41:50 AM PDT by SIDENET ("Join me or die. Can you do any less?" -Mr. Sparkle)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

So did he say something that comes out all the time in rap songs?


6 posted on 06/16/2009 3:42:34 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Sacajaweau

The paper, owned by the NY times, went to a lot of trouble to keep this obscure.


7 posted on 06/16/2009 3:43:09 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

And what exactly is the lesson that was being ‘taught’? This is despicable, and there should be a conviction of the scout leader. An adult who is supposed to be a ‘leader’ couldn’t just have a discussion with the child?


8 posted on 06/16/2009 3:45:32 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

This isnt scouting, this is something from the Hitler youth.

I am sure the Boy Scouts will throw these buttheads out on their ear. The sooner the better.


9 posted on 06/16/2009 3:46:24 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

According to parts of the story I didn’t excerpt all the perps have been bounced.


10 posted on 06/16/2009 3:49:01 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I thought the standard punishment for such things is cleaning the mouth out with soap, preferably Ivory or Lifebuoy for repeat transgressions.


11 posted on 06/16/2009 3:49:21 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (we also have the duty to avoid prostituting our Catholic identity by appeals to phony dialogue)
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To: Venturer
This isnt scouting, this is something from the Hitler youth.

That's what it sounds like to me.
12 posted on 06/16/2009 3:53:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Someone should tell this guy:

"Urine a whole lot of trouble."

13 posted on 06/16/2009 3:59:31 AM PDT by SIDENET ("Join me or die. Can you do any less?" -Mr. Sparkle)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I didn’t know they even let people bring Corona into Boy Scout camps.


14 posted on 06/16/2009 4:06:44 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

...."meet your cell mate, his nickname is "leaky"...don't worry, it's an acquired taste"

15 posted on 06/16/2009 4:14:51 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Al Sharpton should be pleased....


16 posted on 06/16/2009 9:15:16 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I was a boy scout for a short time. The first camp out we went on was spent "initiating" my brother and I. We went through a week of hell and never went back. We joined 4H instead.

We were camping during the winter in Massachusetts and the older scouts poured water on our bedding. They spit in our food. Some of the scouts stole our food. They poured syrup in our hair when we slept. When I complained to the scoutmaster he slapped me and told me to grow up. It wasn't at all what I imagined the boy scouts to be.

17 posted on 06/16/2009 9:20:40 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
first taping his mouth shut and then forcing him to drink urine,

Anyone else having problems with this statement?

18 posted on 06/16/2009 9:21:20 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Uh, Mr. President, did you lose your contact lense OR ARE YOU PRAYING?)
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To: mbynack

We always pranked the younger kids on their first camp out but it was benign stuff like snipe hunts or sending them to another troop’s campsite for a bacon stretcher and that troop would send them to the next one on down and so on till the kids had visited everyone in the area looking for a non existent item.


19 posted on 06/16/2009 9:31:26 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
Snipe hunts and searches for the "left handed smoke shifter" were harmless pranks. The scouts in my troop didn't engage in physical harassment. The most egregious thing that happened to me in scouts was carrying a 52 pound pack 20 miles into a 30 mile hike. On the way into the camp location, a bee flew up under my shirt and stung me just over the right kidney. Next, a scout leader showed up and took the heavy canvas tent I had carried for 20 miles. I was left sleeping under the stars. The next morning, the jerk brought the tent over to me as if I was his personal pack mule. I told him he would have to carry it out. I'm not sure how that tent was conveyed to the end of the hike, but it wasn't on my back.
21 posted on 06/16/2009 9:57:24 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Rebelbase
I left out an important detail. I was carrying that 52 pound pack on my 6 ft tall, 112 lb body. The pack was nearly half my body weight.
22 posted on 06/16/2009 9:59:00 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Liberals committing a hate crime against a child. Maybe Letterman can make a joke out of it - well, he won’t hear about it because any time a liberal “hates” it doesn’t make the news. Eff ‘em.


24 posted on 06/16/2009 10:03:37 AM PDT by GOPJ (Main Stream Media (MSM) Renamed: Ministry of Truth (MOT) - -"Freedom is Slavery")
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Then they had sex with him.


25 posted on 06/16/2009 10:05:32 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Myrddin

Did a backpack trip once where an overweight, out of shape kid was with us. We ended up spliting up his gear and carry it between all of us. I spent the last two hours of the hike a mile behind everyone else with my hand in the middle of his back pushing him up the mountain. He made it.


26 posted on 06/16/2009 10:07:22 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I note that they violated the two-deep leadership rule. The Boy scouts prohibit a group of scouts with a single adult leader.


27 posted on 06/16/2009 10:11:17 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Rebelbase
My first Scout troop was in Springfield, VA. I attended my first meeting on Wednesday, May 29th, 1968. There was a hike scheduled for Saturday, but you had to be a Tenderfoot to participate. The next day was Memorial Day. I went to the Scoutmaster's house and passed all my Tenderfoot requirements. It was quite an evening of "cramming" for the test. The hike on the C&O canal was a blast. It was 10 miles of mosquito infested green water.

My first and only scout camp was at Goshen, VA in July 1968. I made 2nd class, earned the swimming merit badge and mile swim patch. After summer camp, I pressed forward to finish my First Class requirements before moving back to San Diego. I joined Troop 857 in Chula Vista and made Eagle in April 1972.

We had a few out of shape kids in both troops. Fortunately, the "shakedown" hikes were structured such that the leaders didn't have to split equipment or physically move them along. By the time we were going up Mt San Jacinto or San Gorgonio, everyone was in pretty good shape. The 30 mile "Camelback" through the Cuyamaca mountains and much flatter "El Camino" hikes were good preparation. The real hiking fans took the 14 day Sierra Trek including a climb to the summit of Mt. Whitney. My lungs weren't up to that level of exertion.

28 posted on 06/16/2009 11:08:19 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

A great excuse for the perverts to act out. Any degree of murder or assault is not “justified” in the name of whitey getting uppity in childhood conflicts with their racial superiors.

Why didn’t the perverts just lynch the kid? Because making him drink their urine was exciting to the freaks in a golden shower kind of way.


29 posted on 06/16/2009 11:08:41 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Myrddin

I did two trips to Philmont. 10,000 feet is the highest we hiked there. Did a trip in the Rockies once a few years later with a couple of buddies. After 3 days in the car we hit the trail as soon as we arrived. I had to stop about 2 miles from our destination as my legs cramped up bad. Went to sleep and didn’t wake until the next morning. Felt 100% then.


30 posted on 06/16/2009 11:35:48 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
San Jacinto summit is around 10,800. San Gorgonio is 11,500. The folks that went to the top of Mt Whitney said they were definitely feeling the altitude. Philmont would have been fun, but we simply didn't have the resources to cover that trip. I was lucky to have one trip to scout camp.

The San Jacinto trip usually started in Idyllwild at the foot of "Devil's Slide". We hiked to the "saddle", then headed the long way around to Round Valley to camp for the night. In the morning, we walked to Wellman's Divide and dropped our packs. One of the adults watched the packs while the rest of us raced unfettered to the summit. The San Gorgonio summit was always a fully packed experience. There wasn't a convenient spot to drop the packs.

The leg cramps seemed to be most apparent in the first 3 miles of walking. After that, they tend to relax as long as you maintain a decent pace.

31 posted on 06/16/2009 2:23:37 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

It’s the culture. In a world where “racism” is considered the ultimate evil, everything else, including the horrible abuse of a child, is a lesser offense.


32 posted on 06/16/2009 6:40:09 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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