IRAN: In a rock fight, 10,000 protestors win.

Tehran News BBC ^ | June 21, 2009 | Jeff Head

[Jeff Head]

Riot Police attempt to hold the line and then start falling back.


Riot Police retreat as protestors advance, and then the Polic break and run as protestors chase

Please watch the video showing this.

In a rock fight 10,000 protestors win

"There is only one force of history that can break the reign of hatred and resentment, and expose the pretensions of tyrants, and reward the hopes of the

decent and tolerant, and that is the force of human freedom.

"All who live in tyranny and hopelessness can know: The United States will not ignore your oppression, or excuse your oppressors. When you stand for your liberty, we will

stand with you.

"Democratic reformers facing repression, prison or exile can know: America sees you for who you are -- the future leaders of your free country.

"The rulers of outlaw regimes can know that we still believe as Abraham Lincoln did: "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves; and, under the rule

of a just God, cannot long retain it."

George W. Bush Jan 2005

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WARNING:GRAPHIC:

Young Woman (Neda) shot to death in Terhran. 6/20/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjQxq5N--Kc

Crowd Hunting Basij, Man shot. 6/20/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYaL4mA-bSY

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[JoeFromSidney]

Iranians - proving once again why they are the cream of the Muslim world......

When I was still teaching at University of Dayton, we had a lot of Iranian students. I remember them as being top-notch. After the Shah was ousted, they no longer were able to come.

[Repeal The 17th]

Thank you.

[Nervous Tick]

>> Even armed police or military understand that being outnumbered by a high enough ratio guarantees your defeat.

Particularly when those doing the outnumbering have nothing left to lose, and realize that death is not the worst thing.

[ketsu]

And don't you for a second think that you know me or my heart. I did not say I was superior. I simply said I was armed. And as armed Americans, if a Basij tried what is happening in Iran, lead would be flying the other way...or I will be dead. It is why the left is desperate to disarm us. They know that if they push too hard, that the result will be very bad for them.

I have ghreat resect for the Iranian fighting right now. I send them that message each day. I pray God's blessings on them and pray we can and will help them more.

Then don't act holier than thou.

Persia has existed for 1000s of years, we've existed for 200 or so.

[ketsu]

And don't you for a second think that you know me or my heart. I did not say I was superior. I simply said I was armed. And as armed Americans, if a Basij tried what is happening in Iran, lead would be flying the other way...or I will be dead. It is why the left is desperate to disarm us. They know that if they push too hard, that the result will be very bad for them.

I have ghreat resect for the Iranian fighting right now. I send them that message each day. I pray God's blessings on them and pray we can and will help them more.

Then don't act holier than thou.

Persia has existed for 1000s of years, we've existed for 200 or so.

[Allegra]

Oh c’mon now, you can throw out some bones can’t you?

His nephew probably didn't throw out many bones. ;-)

I've been in conversation with a couple of friends who work near the border.

Like Repeal said, what they're not telling us is very telling.

We can't really even get any good dirt here in Baghdad, but we know there is some.

Frustrating...LOL

[Repeal The 17th]

“...throw out some bones...”
-
Please keep in mind that this is all speculation on my part...
but the impression I get is that the Iran/Iraq border
is a wee bit more porous than we are typically led to believe.

[Enterprise]

LOL - Ok then, if there aren’t any bones, then throw out some wild speculation! :)

[Jeff Head]

Wose acting Holier than thou? Says you?

I simply stated...and stand by it, that 80 million armed Americans would prevent a Basif. That says nothing negative about Iranians...it says something positive about Americans...and there is a huge difference between the two...and thank God we have retained that right to date. That is not Holier than thou, that is simply a statement of fact.

And, I will continue expressing my belief and sugestion to any Iranian I cna, that they in fact win their liberty and then ensure that they stay armed. I bet you hundreds of thousands of them wish they had guns now.

Now, on the other hand, you seem have some kind of ax to grind who has reacted to a simple, unambiguous statement and took it personally like you sat on a corn cobb or something.

It was not meant that way...and I do not know how I can say it any clearer.

I respect what the Iranian people are doing, I am for a truly Azadi Persia, and am trying to help in any way I can.

So...at least as far as your statements of me personally are concerned...stick a sock in it, because you are reading it absolutley 110% wrong.

[retrokitten]

We can't really even get any good dirt here in Baghdad, but we know there is some.

That's very interesting.

[ketsu]

80 million armed americans have sat on their fat butts for 3 disputed elections in a row.

Iranians have shown the most guts of any culture since the Russians or Romanians in the 80s. To have the gall to say that we can teach them anything is absurd.

[Repeal The 17th]

I think I love you!

[Jeff Head]

Ah...3 disputed elections you say? Which were those?

Which elections were such an absolute farce as to warrant taking to the streets and overthrowing the government?

There have been none.

Has their been abuse? Yes. Has there been some fraud, even significant in some cases? Yes.

Has it reached a point where we need to have a civil war and turn it over? No for me...not yet.

Clinton was elected on minorities, but done so after Perot got in and split the vote. I do not believe we lost as a result of a failed voting process...we lost because we got split.

Do you believe Bush the election from Gore?

I don't. The Surpeme Court, as is its duty, got into that when called upon and ruled that the vote was counted correctly...and if anything, the freaud was on the other side and Bush even had more votes.

There was definite vote fraud in the 2008 Presidential election (and there is some in all of them), but not enough to overcome the results, and the law is looking into it...just as it has with past elections and people have been prosecuted and put away.

I still believe...just as I did during the Carter years when conditions were about as bad, and worse in some areas, that we can turn this around at the next vote ifd we will get involved...in this case in 2010 and 2012.

We do not need an armed rebellion at this point. But millions of us are armed and remained prepared for one just the same. I do not know about you, but I am continually writing my reps and senators, and posting articles, to remind them of why wa stay armed.

If the time came, we would use them.

WHEN TRUTH BECOMES TREASON

A JULY 4TH TEA PARTY SPEECH IN AMERICA

[ketsu]

You still don't get it.

The issue is not left or right. The issue is that Americans, both left and right are so fat and complacent that they're unwilling/unable to stand up for themselves. You can have all the guns in the world, but if you're eating ding dongs and sitting in front of the television, they're meaningless.

[anniegetyourgun]

How Obama is spending his day:

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/articleslideshow?articleId=USTRE55K24320090621&channelName=politicsNews#a=1

[Noumenon]

We are better equipped. As well or better motivated. And we know exactly who we’re up against. That distant thunder is growing closer. Once it starts, there will be no stopping it.

[Jeff Head]

...no, IMHO, you don't get it. And you paint with far too broad a brush. Millions are not fat, dumb, or complacant.

But we've both had our say, and now we are talking in circles.

I am content to let others judge between us as the read.

Feel as you please, but your judgement of me and many other Americans is way off base. I can say that because I know my own heart and the hearts of many others that you do not know.

But you go ahead think as you will...it is your right.

There's just no need to keep arguing semantics. You do what you feel best to address the issues you are saddled up for, and I will do the same for the issues I am saddled up for.

[Jeff Head]

Amen brother...amen. We may yet avoid the worst in 2010 and 2012...just as we did after Carter...but we’d best be buttoned up and prepred for the storm in any case. Should have always been.

[McGavin999]

They need to remember to stick together. They are strong when they are enmass, the regime can not stand against them.

[Noumenon]

Jeff, there will be no honest and open elections here in 2010. Remember who we’re dealing with. And they’re loading their pants over what’s happening in Iran. They’re scared of what the Tea Parties represent here.

Fearful wanna-be tyrants do desperate and stupid things. They’ll go to any length to stay in power. Because they are driven by the Will to Power. They are worshipers in the same pew as Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro and Stalin. Demons dance on their empty altars.

As Lurker has said, there is only one way this can end.