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New U.S. Cyber Command Raises Privacy Concerns
NPR ^ | 26 June 2009 | Brian Naylor

Posted on 06/27/2009 7:20:57 PM PDT by BGHater

Defense Secretary Robert Gates has created a new cyber command in the Pentagon as part of the Obama administration's focus on cyberdefense. The new command will be headed by the director of the secretive National Security Agency. Privacy advocates worry about the role of the NSA and the militarization of the Internet.

In a memo this week, Gates said the nation's increasing dependency on cyberspace, alongside a growing array of cyberthreats and vulnerabilities, adds a new element of risk to national security. The memo says a new command is necessary, capable of synchronizing war-fighting effects across the global security environment.

James Lewis, a cybersecurity analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, says Gates' memo is a significant move for the Department of Defense.

"The significance is that it's a recognition by DOD of how important cyberspace has become for national security writ large and for how we fight wars in the future, so it's a big organizational step forward," Lewis says.

Lt. Gen. Keith Alexander, now the director of the National Security Agency, will lead the new command.

The Defense Department has been low key about it. Analysts say that's to soothe concerns that it wants to take over the nation's computer networks. Privacy advocates worry about the role of the NSA, which monitors foreign communications and is not supposed to engage in domestic spying.

"People are leery about NSA having any sort of larger role and people are leery about this question of the militarization of the Internet. And even with DOD's statements, which I think are accurate, we're still going to have those concerns," Lewis says.

Many elements of cyberwarfare resemble the tactics of ordinary hackers. Viruses have been sent to disrupt civilian and military computers. Some 360 million attempts were made against Pentagon computers last year. Computers in Estonia and Georgia, which have had recent conflicts with Russia, were subject to denial-of-service attacks.

Herbert Lin of the National Research Council explains how such attacks work: "I get millions of other computers to make requests to this Pentagon Web site to get information from it, and they're all fake requests and they all happen to arrive at the same time, and in the meantime any legitimate request gets blocked out."

John Wheeler, who served as a special assistant to the secretary of the Air Force and helped formulate cyberwarfare strategy, says the U.S. has been getting mugged in cyberspace and that cyberattacks can do much to harm a potential adversary.

"There's a lot of things that could be done to break down the will of a nation by undermining and, so to speak, throwing sand in the gears of processes that the people depend on," he says. "It's a form of bombing or even fire-bombing populations to destroy their will."

Analysts draw analogies to nuclear weapons and the Cold War when discussing the role of cyberwarfare. But there has been little public guidance from the White House or Congress, Lin says.

"This is a subject that there has not been a lot of discussion about and we think that it's a subject that's way too important only to be discussed behind closed doors," he says.

Lin, who edited a National Research Council report on cyberwar, says oversight and rules of engagement for cyberweapons are inadequate. He and other analysts say it's time for a national debate over the role of cyberwarfare in U.S. defense strategy, not unlike that which occurred over nuclear strategy.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: cyberspace; lping; military; privacy

1 posted on 06/27/2009 7:20:57 PM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

yea...with the collusion of Nokia & Seimmans , now teaming up
with Intel , perhaps we should be worried ....
Those companies seem to be willing to do whatever the requesting government ask of them to set up . Regardless of the consequences .


2 posted on 06/27/2009 7:22:50 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: BGHater; BOBTHENAILER; Dog Gone; Grampa Dave; tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Amerigomag; ...

You betcha, by golly, when Iran nukes Isreal and NK nukes HI, we’ll just have to stand there and watch Gates and Obama just twitter the hell out of ‘em!!!


3 posted on 06/27/2009 7:25:49 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism stinks like BO!!!)
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To: BGHater

I imagine this will root out anything anti-government, rather than preventing the Chinese from hacking government databases.


4 posted on 06/27/2009 7:29:31 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: SierraWasp
Related thread:

Computers hackers helping Iranian protesters

5 posted on 06/27/2009 7:32:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: wastedyears

Ya gotta have your priorities.


6 posted on 06/27/2009 7:37:11 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: bamahead; ShadowAce

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7 posted on 06/27/2009 7:37:13 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: LeoWindhorse

It’s going to be a matter of when, not whether, a significant hostile is going to launch the mother of all DDOS attacks upon the US internet infrastructure, and are we going to be ready for that? Good on Obama (can’t believe I’m saying that, but even blind pigs get acorns) for at least letting Gates look at this issue. This concern is not going to care who is in the White House.


8 posted on 06/27/2009 7:38:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (In only 19 weeks, 0 has enabled us to agree with the Taliban [his empty speechifying] - Iron Munro)
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To: BGHater

>> “People are leery about NSA having any sort of larger role and people are leery about this question of the militarization of the Internet. And even with DOD’s statements, which I think are accurate, we’re still going to have those concerns,”

I’m not too concerned about our military. They’re professional, and sworn to uphold our rights, and I believe in my heart that they take that vow seriously.

At any pay grade below Commander in Chief, that is.

Bambi... Rahm... Holder... and any pussy “brass” those vermin appoint... now THEY worry me.


9 posted on 06/27/2009 7:38:21 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I know... "hearts and minds" which won't work when the nukes start flyin!!!

KaBOOM trumps twitter, every time!!!

10 posted on 06/27/2009 7:41:53 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism stinks like BO!!!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Yep. They were responsible for the block in civilian intel coming out of Iran.


11 posted on 06/27/2009 7:43:07 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: BGHater

Stuff like this kills me. Where have these doofwads been living for the past 15 years?

For the technically savvy, there is NO privacy on the internet. Why do they think entire industries have popped up selling Spyware Protection and Virus Protection?


12 posted on 06/27/2009 7:46:57 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24
Why do they think entire industries have popped up selling Spyware Protection and Virus Protection?

A different Gates is responsible for that.

13 posted on 06/27/2009 7:49:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Don't blame me -- I use Linux.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Amen to that! ;-)


14 posted on 06/27/2009 7:51:46 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: BGHater

Imagine the uproar if this had happened under Bush. Every Rat politician and their fellow-traveler privacy groups as well as the Obama-ass-kissing media would be screaming about how Bush is trying to spy on the American people. Now all it rates is pretty much of a yawn by these assorted scumbaggery.


15 posted on 06/27/2009 7:57:29 PM PDT by Larry381 ("in the final instance civilization is always saved by a platoon of soldiers" Oswald Spengler)
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To: Larry381

On the flip slide.

Imagine the uproar by Conservative if Obama had tried the Patriot Act, Department of Homeland Security, No Fly List, etc.

They made a great tag team.


16 posted on 06/27/2009 8:05:57 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Nobody - military or not - is trustworthy with absolute power. Most military officers and personnel will violate your constitutional rights if ordered to do so in the name of national security. Bet on it. There would be few objectors.


17 posted on 06/27/2009 8:07:45 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: BGHater
Imagine the uproar by Conservative if Obama had tried the Patriot Act, Department of Homeland Security, No Fly List, etc.

Fat chance this guy would have done anything like that to defend our country. So your 'flip side' is a flop.

18 posted on 06/27/2009 8:12:47 PM PDT by NewLand (What does 0bama know and when did he know it?)
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To: wastedyears

You mean people’s cyberwarfare against Obama’s five sided polygon?


19 posted on 06/27/2009 8:15:12 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: SaraJohnson

Someone with conscience will eventually surface the story.


20 posted on 06/27/2009 8:27:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Don't blame me -- I use Linux.)
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To: BGHater

Hello to the Cyber Czar that is watching this right now. Please give a message to the African Colonial masquerading as a President that is destroying the country: Go F-yourself you tyrant.


21 posted on 06/27/2009 8:30:47 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: BGHater

Well, hard to say what’s true, but I was under the impression that the NSA was spying on internet users back in the clinton years. All that business about key words, like “Mena airport.”

It seems to me that this is kind of a meaningless gesture, intended to show that Obama is cyber-savvy, unlike what they like to think of as his chimp-neanderthal predecessor.


22 posted on 06/27/2009 8:34:56 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NoobRep

Lol. Your such a Paine in the arse.


23 posted on 06/27/2009 8:35:17 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: NoobRep

That has to be one bitter job for a liberal hack, sorting through the posts on the likes of Free Republic and Townhall.


24 posted on 06/27/2009 8:53:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Don't blame me -- I use Linux.)
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To: NoobRep

Well said. And Seconded...


25 posted on 06/27/2009 9:00:36 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: BGHater
militarization of the Internet.

The internet was invented by or for the military. It was originally known as ARPA-net and then DARPA-net. (Defense) Advanced Research Projects Agency. It was designed to survive a nuclear attack.

It'll survive a lot longer than the Mad Mullahs, Angry Ayatollahs, and Little Kim.

26 posted on 06/27/2009 9:26:36 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: BGHater

It really won’t take a hell of a lot of nuclear bombs to do sever damage to the United States.

See the article at:
http://www.tfd.chalmers.se/~valeri/EMP.html

Partial conclusion below:
“Electro-magnetic bombs are Weapons of Electronical Mass Destruction with applications across a broad spectrum of targets, spanning both the strategic and tactical. As such their use offers a very high payoff in attacking the fundamental information processing and communication facilities of a target system. The massed application of these weapons will produce substantial paralysis in any target system, thus providing a decisive advantage in the conduct of Electronic Combat, Offensive Counter Air and Strategic Air Attack.

Because E-bombs can cause hard electrical kills over larger areas than conventional explosive weapons of similar mass, they offer substantial economies in force size for a given level of inflicted damage, and are thus a potent force multiplier for appropriate target sets.

The non-lethal nature of electro-magnetic weapons makes their use far less politically damaging than that of conventional munitions, and therefore broadens the range of military options available.”

You can kiss the internet and your computer goodbye.


27 posted on 06/27/2009 10:02:23 PM PDT by wildbill ( The reason you're so jealous is that the voices talk only to me.)
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To: BGHater
Funny how it is that when they're out of power, the left screams about privacy and Constitutional violations, even when it means destroying ongoing national security operations (re: NY Times). But once they're in power, it's time to start doing away with privacy and Constitutional safeguards...

Mark

28 posted on 06/28/2009 4:00:25 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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People are leery about NSA having any sort of larger role and people are leery about this question of the militarization of the Internet. And even with DOD's statements, which I think are accurate, we're still going to have those concerns," Lewis says.



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29 posted on 06/28/2009 10:33:29 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: BGHater
They made a great tag team.

That's a really good point. I remember the outcry when the DHS was started, and I remember thinking that they were making a mountain out of a molehill. After a while, I started thinking about what might happen if that capability were to fall in the wrong hands. Until 2006, I never thought that there were enough really stupid Americans to allow that to happen. But there were...

30 posted on 06/28/2009 11:07:31 AM PDT by meyer ( "The world is a beautiful place and worth fighting for. But not without Freedom.")
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To: SierraWasp

Nailed ‘em SW. Twitter twins blow another one. Like Nero, Obamadinejad twitters while the world burns.


31 posted on 06/28/2009 1:52:16 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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32 posted on 06/29/2009 5:05:07 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: BGHater

Betcha they have a really cool logo.


33 posted on 06/29/2009 8:27:50 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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