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US to spend another $1 billion for flu vaccine
Reuters ^ | 7/12/2009

Posted on 07/12/2009 2:13:15 PM PDT by Selene

WASHINGTON, July 12 (Reuters) - The United States will spend an another $1 billion for ingredients for an H1N1 vaccination, U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said on Sunday.

"There'll be another $1 billion worth of orders placed to get the bulk ingredients for an H1N1 vaccination. Congress has agreed with the president that this is the number one priority, keeping Americans safe and secure," Sebelius said on CNN.

Sebelius has said plans were on track for a mid-October vaccination program, although it was not certain Americans would be offered the vaccine for the so-called swine flu.

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1 posted on 07/12/2009 2:13:15 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Selene

Weird. I live in a medium sized suburb in Ohio, and have never met anyone who has had this flu. Is this really a problem in other areas? I’ve read a lot about it in the news; I just haven’t seen any in real life.


2 posted on 07/12/2009 2:17:33 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Selene

I think there are a living 1 billion people on Earth who if they knew what was in the vaccine, their chances of dying, and that the flu bug has already had mutations, there are 1 billion smarter people who wouldn’t take the drug.


3 posted on 07/12/2009 2:21:49 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: rovenstinez

All other things being equal, given a 50% chance of me taking the flu shot, I’d be happy to get injections in years that Bush was Prez, and avoid getting injections in any years that -7bama was Rez...


4 posted on 07/12/2009 2:27:01 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: Selene

How come this doesn’t make me feel safe. I guess because vaccines bypass the body’s normal defenses. Direct access to the body and immune system. So how do we know what’s in the vaccine? We don’t. We need to trust the same government that stole $13 trillion from us.

Nope I’ll be passing on my shots this year. Thanks anyway.


5 posted on 07/12/2009 2:27:20 PM PDT by Alex Kida
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To: rovenstinez

Does anyone know if this is accurate?

Swine Flu Kills Obese People: Is U.S. Primed for a Pandemic Catastrophe?
http://www.naturalnews.com/026602_pandemic_swine_flu_health.html


6 posted on 07/12/2009 2:33:45 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Alex Kida

if the flu really does mutate into some nasty virus we are to late in producing a vaccine right now anyway. This should of been started months ago.


7 posted on 07/12/2009 2:34:01 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Selene
I seriously doubt it. What makes this a potentially dangerous virus is that it attacks those with a very good immunity system. It tricks the body into attacking its own immunity system, so ordinarily the healthier the person the more risk they are.

potentially can be a very scary virus.

8 posted on 07/12/2009 2:38:45 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Selene
Oh.. duh.. didn't even think of that point. The swine flu as it is right now those with a poor immunity system is at greatest risk so this article is correct.

At present time the flu should be treated as just a normal flu, so those that are obese will be at greatest risk.
This is old news and a none issue.

9 posted on 07/12/2009 2:48:36 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: keats5

We had this virus in March before it hit the news for killing folks in Mexico. Son’s coach got it while vacationing in Mexico. He was very sick but not sick enough to stay home. It went through the players over several weeks. It went through our house over a few weeks as well. Hubby and I barely got sick at all. A child at our sons’ school died from it though that child was immuno-compromised (or whatever the word for that is), and there were other members of that child’s family who were ill enough to be hospitalized.

I’ve read a lot of stuff about this on FR, including the info that there were swine flu cases in 1977 or 1978 when there was some sort of lab version of the flu that got into the general population. I’ve even met someone my age who had the swine flu that year. She had mentioned it when this year’s swine flu scare started, and I thought she was mistaken because no one was reporting any swine flu during the years she would have had it. Anywho, I guess she really did have the swine flu as did the rest of her family.


10 posted on 07/12/2009 2:54:23 PM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: Selene

Big Pharma RULES DC!!!


11 posted on 07/12/2009 3:17:40 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Selene

that swine flu might preferentially kill obese people can be attributed to one factor - but this is just conjecture.

The shells of a virus come in two types - protein or fat. Some herpes viruses are fatty shelled. Cold viruses are protein shelled (there might be some exceptions).

the swine flu virus is probably fatty shelled. An obese person would have an abundance of the materials needed to make the fatty shelled virus. If the body’s immune system is not able to fight off the virus very well, then possibly, there could be this exponential growth rate for the swine flu virus since the “raw materials” are so much more plentiful in an obese person.


12 posted on 07/12/2009 3:20:31 PM PDT by bioqubit
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To: keats5
According to the CDC, Ohio is currently at just a "sporadic" level when it comes to H1N1 (see http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm).

The article about obesity was interesting:

In the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's report on death and disease, researchers documented the case of ten swine flu patients at a Michigan hospital who became so ill they were put on ventilators. Three of the patients ultimately died from the infection. The kicker? Nine of the ten were obese, and two of the three who died were severely obese.

As reported by Reuters, CDC virologist Dr. Tim Uyeki said, "What this suggests is that there can be severe complications associated with this virus infection, especially in severely obese patients."

Notably, five of the patients showed evidence of blood clots in their lungs, indicating severe cellular trauma in the lungs. Nine of the patients suffered from multiple organ failure, and six experienced kidney failure.

The bottom line in this study is quite clear: Don't be obese during the next pandemic. If you are obese now, let this bit of knowledge provide whatever extra motivation you need to drop some excess body fat and reduce the inflammatory burden on your body's organs. Obesity is, after all, readily reversed through simple changes in diet and exercise habits.

13 posted on 07/12/2009 3:33:46 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: bioqubit; john in springfield

I’ll plant this “obese” info in the back of my brain, for future reference.


14 posted on 07/12/2009 4:15:14 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Selene

I’ve been sick as hell for a week now, just finally feeling sort of human. Hubby wanted me to go to the doctors, no freaking way. Stick your gov. shot.


15 posted on 07/12/2009 5:53:51 PM PDT by AirForceMom (Locked and loaded, and sharpening wooden stakes.)
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To: Selene
Never had a flu shot, never had the flu and I wouldn't take one. I knows lots of people that have taken the shot and gotten a mild case of the flu. No thanks, I wouldn't take anything odumbass offered up in his administration. That statement by Ayers that we need 25 million dead sort of tends to stick with me. Now Ginseberg saying she thought abortion was for population control? Nah.... pass.
16 posted on 07/12/2009 6:17:41 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe; Selene

Don't take it. Population control.
Guillain-Barré syndrome, MS, Alzheimer's, Autism, sterility, infertility, etc.
Don't take this. They will lie to try to trick people into taking this. Thousands or more will get sick or crippled from this. Much worse than a bout of flu.

Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu


17 posted on 07/12/2009 7:51:56 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: keats5
I have a theory - this flu is hitting some dem victim group.

If this flu was like the others - primarily killing children and grandparents - the big money wouldn't be there.

When they say people who are dying have “other complications” ... it might be those who are HIV positive are more susceptible. We'll have to wait and see - but it would explain the big funding.

18 posted on 07/12/2009 8:07:28 PM PDT by GOPJ (Still waiting for journalists ask Obama how he'll "heal" a deeply divided nation -FreeperOldDeckHand)
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To: Selene

Do not get this vaccine and do not let anyone try to vaccinate you by force.

This vaccine was developed WAY TOO QUICKLY to be a "response" to a completely "new" flu virus - which is likely a man-made virus, being composed of four different strains of flu virus that would not combine on their own.

Normally, I'd say this is the stuff of '24' and 'tinfoil hat conspiracies,' but given all that Obama has done already, and given who he has hired, this is a real and likely scenario.

Obama has hired advisors and appointed people who are academics and radical environmentalists that firmly believe the Earth's population is growing faster than the Earth can support it, and only a mandatory, global population reduction will save it.

Enforcing the one-child policy of China is one idea.

The other is through controlled pandemics. Their thinking is like the philosophy of Darwinian POPULATION CONTROL as espoused by political economist Thomas Malthus (1766–1834). Except that real-life scenarios are being thought out by these environmental extremists on who survives and who dies.

A global pandemic, on the order of the great 1918 flu, ought to do the trick. But, instead of actually unleashing a virus, the government can vaccinate people with an active virus for which they have no immunity.

Or, the other scenario is unleashing a deadly virus and having control over who gets vaccinated, and "retained" for the New World Order.

I hope that I am completely wrong...but I am reminded of Revelations by my Christian friends.

19 posted on 07/12/2009 9:06:21 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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Ping...


20 posted on 07/13/2009 4:33:12 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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