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Shock: Inside the Healthcare Bill
Economic Policy Journal ^ | 7/20/09 | Robert Wenzel

Posted on 07/21/2009 7:14:12 AM PDT by FromLori

Edited on 07/21/2009 1:37:04 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Following the mad recommendations of Peter Singer made in NYT's Sunday magazine, it pays to take a look at what is actually in the healthcare bill.

It's worse than you can possibly imagine. Somehow, it manages to be Singer on steroids. Who wrote this bill. It has Singer's footprints all over it.

Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman's)


Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benes u get

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!


Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise

Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individs finances & a National ID Healthcard will b issued!

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under Govt control.

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in the Exchange

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration ur Healthcare!

PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic approp svcs. Example - Translation 4 illegal aliens

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2 sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - U Health care WILL b rationed

-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will b automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice

pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monop

pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what u can make.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their families.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll

pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC accrdng 2 Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)

Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2 ALL Americans finan/pers recs

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty u have, you'll all be paid the same

PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr's time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.

PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries

PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs

PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals 4 what Govt deems preventable readmissions.

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.

Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan

Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Cmtte. Can u say HC by phone?

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life resources, guiding u in death

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt has a say in how ur life ends

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will b used frequently as patients health deteriorates

PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may incl an ORDER 4 end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life

Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?

Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based org. Like ACORN?

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage

Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs

Here's the full Health Care bill that sits in the House.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhoabortion; bhohealthcare; democrats; healthcare; healthcarebill; impeachobama; moralabsolutes; obamacare; petersinger; prolife; readthebill; romney; romneycare; socialism; socializedmedicine; unconstitutional
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To: FromLori

Here is obama and the democrats playing GOD!!!!


201 posted on 07/21/2009 2:35:43 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd,you get no further than the crowd")
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To: KansasGirl

It does, I saw it in there yesterday - -it may be in the 400’s.


202 posted on 07/21/2009 2:36:12 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: BornToBeAmerican
Somebody needs to wake up the people in this country to make them understand they have been duped by a narcissistic control freak who now gets the privilege of calling himself president. In Ohio they need to NOT show up for the town hall meeting! It is all about more television coverage. He could care less about answering “real” questions.

There are past dictators whose genes have obviously been spread across the seas. We are seeing what those poor people have to deal with in countries where dictators rule. This is just the beginning of a nightmare in this country.

Everyone, please read everything you can about what is really going on here. Don't believe everything you see on television. It is propaganda at its best.

203 posted on 07/21/2009 2:36:26 PM PDT by tstoll7007
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To: Gideon7

Not only is there NOT tort reform, it hands more power to lawyers to not only go after doctors but private businesses as well.


204 posted on 07/21/2009 2:37:36 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: HKMk23

I found a better copy of the bill:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3200:

It is hot-linked by topic so you can jump around.


205 posted on 07/21/2009 2:39:45 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: cbkaty

He spoke out yesterday, as a matter of fact, and then was roundly criticized for doing so by Charles Krauthammer on Special Report’s panel... according to Charles, when the other side is shooting them self in the foot you shut up and let them.


206 posted on 07/21/2009 2:40:58 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: right way right

Well aren’t you special, the guy took the time to actually read the bill and let people know what is in it section by section..... have YOU done the same or is it easier to just be high and mighty? Frankly right now the issue of this bill is more important than some people’s better than thou attitudes.


207 posted on 07/21/2009 2:44:06 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: TheZMan

Twitter limits the number of characters in a tweet. Hence the use of the abbreviations. Concentrate on the information in the post and don’t worry about the text. It’s kind of like remarking on the use of Morse code for emergency messages and how silly it sounds when you’re standing on the deck of the Titanic.


208 posted on 07/21/2009 2:45:05 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: bustinchops

I read the bill and you should too. It is what it is and very frightening.


209 posted on 07/21/2009 2:45:28 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: bustinchops

Well then you go read it and do a page-by-page synopsis in long hand...


210 posted on 07/21/2009 2:45:37 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FromLori

Is this true?


211 posted on 07/21/2009 2:46:54 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: HKMk23
Dang, the formatting fubar'ed the link. Let's try again:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3200:

The trailing colon (:) is required for the link to work.

212 posted on 07/21/2009 2:47:05 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: FromLori

TIME TO SURROUND WASHINGTON!!!!


213 posted on 07/21/2009 2:47:28 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd,you get no further than the crowd")
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To: Tzimisce

yes


214 posted on 07/21/2009 2:48:56 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FromLori

Obama and his Population Control team are hard at work.

Sounds like a job for Science “Czar” John Holdren.


215 posted on 07/21/2009 2:49:24 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Bo the dog came with more paperwork than his owner.)
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To: FromLori

I’ll bet each individual person on this thread has read more of this bill than anyone in congress combined.


216 posted on 07/21/2009 2:51:07 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: DustyMoment

RE: “.................While I’m not a Michael Steele fan, your tarnishing him is unfair. To his credit (albeit late, as usual) he did make a statement in the past couple of days denouncing Obama’s DeathCare as “socialist”.”

**********

Steele sure did say that, didn’t he! Better late than never — needs to speak out like this daily — in fact we ALL do!


217 posted on 07/21/2009 2:55:15 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: FromLori

My child, you must not have fear at speaking the truth. It is for the salvation of souls and the recovery of your country. America the beautiful must not fall to communism, My child. America the beautiful shall not be sold into slavery. Cast out the money changers in your government!

“What manner of government is there that condones sin? Abomination upon abomination-giving monies for the murder of children, giving monies for the murder of the elderly!

“Your government, My child, has been infiltrated by men of sin.” - Our Lady, September 13, 1975


218 posted on 07/21/2009 2:56:44 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd,you get no further than the crowd")
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To: FromLori

Has anyone seen a provision for pre-existing condidtions?


219 posted on 07/21/2009 3:00:33 PM PDT by kempster
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To: FromLori

These people are nutz.

They really think
Americans are gonna just roll over on this type of fascism?

riiiiiiiiight


220 posted on 07/21/2009 3:00:59 PM PDT by HonestConservative (http://web.me.com/pac8185/Site_2/Podcast/Podcast.html)
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