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Shock: Inside the Healthcare Bill
Economic Policy Journal ^ | 7/20/09 | Robert Wenzel

Posted on 07/21/2009 7:14:12 AM PDT by FromLori

Edited on 07/21/2009 1:37:04 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Following the mad recommendations of Peter Singer made in NYT's Sunday magazine, it pays to take a look at what is actually in the healthcare bill.

It's worse than you can possibly imagine. Somehow, it manages to be Singer on steroids. Who wrote this bill. It has Singer's footprints all over it.

Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman's)


Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benes u get

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!


Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise

Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individs finances & a National ID Healthcard will b issued!

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under Govt control.

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in the Exchange

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration ur Healthcare!

PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic approp svcs. Example - Translation 4 illegal aliens

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2 sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - U Health care WILL b rationed

-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will b automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice

pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monop

pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what u can make.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their families.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll

pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC accrdng 2 Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)

Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2 ALL Americans finan/pers recs

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty u have, you'll all be paid the same

PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr's time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.

PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries

PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs

PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals 4 what Govt deems preventable readmissions.

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.

Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan

Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Cmtte. Can u say HC by phone?

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life resources, guiding u in death

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt has a say in how ur life ends

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will b used frequently as patients health deteriorates

PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may incl an ORDER 4 end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life

Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?

Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based org. Like ACORN?

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage

Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs

Here's the full Health Care bill that sits in the House.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhoabortion; bhohealthcare; democrats; healthcare; healthcarebill; impeachobama; moralabsolutes; obamacare; petersinger; prolife; readthebill; romney; romneycare; socialism; socializedmedicine; unconstitutional
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To: Gideon7

Thanks for the link.....but this nightmare of a bill is sooo lengthy and so full of bureaucracy covering every tiny fragment of health related services......IT HAS TO BE THE WORST BILL EVER WRITTEN and the MOST DAMAGING BILL EVERY WRITTEN.

The cap/tax and trade bil is a close second.

PASS THE WORD, GET FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO READ THIS BILL OR THIS SUMMARY. ALL THOSE RETIREES - GIVE THEM THIS AS A PROJECT. THEN GET THE WORD OUT AND CALL, CALL, CALL.


261 posted on 07/21/2009 5:43:10 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: right way right

If you don’t read it, you aren’t going to know that they are going to require that the government MUST have real-time access to an individuals finances, and government will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic fund transfers. AARP members health care will be rationed and their health care benefits will be chosen for them, they will have no choice.

Sounds like fun?


262 posted on 07/21/2009 5:50:51 PM PDT by jtill (We are all angels with but one wing, And only by embracing each other can we fly.)
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To: FromLori

The Nazi death camp doctors decided who lived also.

Obama is a socialistic facistic pig!


263 posted on 07/21/2009 6:05:30 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Diversity causes division and resentment.)
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To: FromLori

I found this at the bottom of this article on 0zer0’s strong arming on ZeroCare:

http://www.ajc.com/health/democrats-divided-on-health-96628.html
“I think that we always need to be reminded that members of Congress don’t serve under presidents, they serve with presidents,” said Rep. Richard Neal, D-Mass.”

Might he be alienating his party pretty badly right now? Hmmm...I love to see the infighting frankly, and it’s ABOUT time for patriotic Ds to stand up to this marxist twit.


264 posted on 07/21/2009 6:05:43 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! The enemedia are TRAITORS.)
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To: FromLori

bfl!!!!!!!!


265 posted on 07/21/2009 6:08:54 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: tstoll7007

Very well said.... Don’t believe everything you see on television. It is propaganda at its best.


266 posted on 07/21/2009 6:09:04 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
He spoke out yesterday, as a matter of fact, and then was roundly criticized for doing so by Charles Krauthammer

Charles Krauthammer...? Your are kidding...right? His opinion is as valid as Lindsey Grahamnesty....

267 posted on 07/21/2009 6:09:43 PM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: FromLori

If this and/or Waxman-Markey passes, I’m outta here:

http://www.LivingInThePhilippines.com

Quality health, dental, vision, etc. for pennies on the dollar. Rent on a large home in the $200-500/mo. range. Maids, gardeners, drivers, etc. for $40 a month.


268 posted on 07/21/2009 6:13:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I am Jim Thompson!!)
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To: rfreedom4u

Hitler Jr.....

Maybe you’ve seen this person - Pastor Manning — he nails Zero bigtime.....and is very good to lift one’s spirits after a long day of fighting the dragon.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDwjXYKoBtU&feature=channel


269 posted on 07/21/2009 6:18:08 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: SeattleBruce

Thanks I sure hope someone can do something or we are toast.


270 posted on 07/21/2009 6:19:33 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!

If this is true, and this POS bill passes into law (which it looks more and more like it is going to be one big EPIC FAIL for HolyO!) I hope Sarah Palin sues the crap out of the government for discrimination against people like Trig!!!>:-(
271 posted on 07/21/2009 6:19:36 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: TheZMan

I hate textese myself, but I hate socialism, marxism, naziism, and communism WORSE!!! >:-(


272 posted on 07/21/2009 6:20:59 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: pillut48

SEC. 1177. EXTENSION OF AUTHORITY OF SPECIAL NEEDS PLANS TO RESTRICT ENROLLMENT.

(a) In General- Section 1859(f)(1) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395w-28(f)(1)) is amended by striking `January 1, 2011’ and inserting `January 1, 2013 (or January 1, 2016, in the case of a plan described in section 1177(b)(1) of the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009)’.

1395w-28. Definitions

(f) Restriction on enrollment for specialized MA plans for special needs individuals
In the case of a specialized MA plan for special needs individuals (as defined in subsection (b)(6) of this section), notwithstanding any other provision of this part and in accordance with regulations of the Secretary and for periods before January 1, 2011, the plan may restrict the enrollment of individuals under the plan to individuals who are within one or more classes of special needs individuals.


Basically it extends the ability of a state to restrict enrollment by Special Needs individuals in the state’s Medical Assistance plan by another two years minimum.

Can you imagine if George Bush tried to do that?


273 posted on 07/21/2009 6:27:51 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: FromLori

Are you willing to die for Zero’s healthcare?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6oWWGVWSFA&feature=channel


274 posted on 07/21/2009 6:30:07 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: pillut48

Humm, I’m not sure I understood it right. These things are so frickin’ convoluted.


275 posted on 07/21/2009 6:30:32 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: cbkaty

Nope, not kidding at all, Charles said it was a huge mistake and then looked at Fred Barnes and said “when the other side is imploding you get out of the way and say nothing — he said the worst thing the GOP can do right now is draw any attention to themselves and off the democrats implosion.


276 posted on 07/21/2009 6:46:06 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: bustinchops

Most of what I said? All I said was what this guy wrote is a synopsis of the bill. It’s pretty straightforward.


277 posted on 07/21/2009 6:47:33 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: US Navy Vet
OK Freerepublic Legal Eagles, can we as citizen file a preemptive cease and desist lawsuit to stop the Federal Gov from infringing on our Constitutional rights.

First, you have to establish standing to bring the suit - after all, you're ONLY an American citizen. Might be best to stop by Home Depot and pick up a day laborer to act as a stand in, as illegals always have more standing before the federal judiciary.

Second, you must seek permission from the government to sue the government - should such permission be withheld, you have to convince a court that the inherent immunity of government should be ignored in this case and the case should proceed. My suggestion: Read up those suits by environmental wackos, as they /always/ seem to have this piece handled. Opportunity: Did Congress get an environmental impact report done of this health care plan? Maybe it's time they do...

Or you can just join millions of others and march on Washington and make these jerks quiver in fear as we gather in unity to be pissed off at our government, vs bussed in image parades that are always overblown.

278 posted on 07/21/2009 6:51:53 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Wu
Why would anyone choose to be a Doctor at this point?

Not to worry, there will soon be a new TSA style agency created, staffed by community organizers, to choose and provide free training to affirmative action candidates that want to play doctor too! Trust Obama DeathCare to provide the best for you! /s

279 posted on 07/21/2009 7:20:12 PM PDT by 1ofmanyfree ((No jobs, licenses,mortgages,bank accounts or amnesty for any illegal alien criminals ! ))
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To: kara2008

“This is a full out assault on our individual rights and freedoms.”

Yes, and also an assault on our LIVES!


280 posted on 07/21/2009 7:23:34 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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