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Declassified Ike documents show '50s not so serene
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/29/09 | John Milburn - ap

Posted on 07/29/2009 1:39:39 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

TOPEKA, Kan. – President Dwight D. Eisenhower grappled with topics like relations with Iran and stability in Iraq during an era that was far more complex than thought, newly declassified documents show.

The papers illustrate that the 1950s, long viewed as an idyllic time of "I Love Lucy" and cars with tail fins, were fraught with delicate policy challenges.

"What's ironic is that the issues that Eisenhower was dealing with 50 or so years ago are the issues that the Obama administration is dealing with today," Eisenhower Presidential Library director Karl Weissenbach said Wednesday.

"The records show the U.S. has long been concerned over its relationship with the Muslim world."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1950s; declassified; documents; ike
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To: NormsRevenge
Here are paratroopers of the 101st Airborne doing some unpleasant government work in Arkansas. That Korean War was kind of nasty also, the vast amount of imminent domain takings for the Interstate Highway system that we all enjoy also entailed a certain amount of bloodshed and violence.

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41 posted on 07/29/2009 3:05:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: 12Gauge687
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43 posted on 07/29/2009 3:16:24 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: NormsRevenge

The assumption that the Eisenhower administration was inert is very wrong indeed. Unlike other presidents, Eisenhower adopted a military command style hierarchy during his presidency.

The reason things were so quiet, is because the administration used military efficiency to accomplish its goals quietly.

A properly run military command staff is a wonder to behold, and has been combat tested many times. Military people adore efficient staffs, because they are life and death important.


44 posted on 07/29/2009 4:10:33 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Lurker; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; ..
Re: It was Ike who basically decided that Saudi Arabia would be the richest nation on the planet and allowed those camel riding pedophile worshiping savages to nationalize an American company. F*** Ike.

Sadly, you do not know your 1950s history but that aside, have you ever considered what the world would be like today if, instead of Ike in the saddle from '52-'60, we'd have had Adlai Ewing Stevenson II as President?

Adlai was noted, you know, for his brilliant intellectual demeanor, his 'gifted' ever so eloquent oratory and his never ending promotion of liberal causes.

Sound... familiar?

45 posted on 07/29/2009 4:23:26 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: NormsRevenge

Eisenhower single-handedly destroyed the French and British empires by intervening on the Egyptian side during the Suez Canal Crisis. From then on, any problem around the world became America’s problem. And European public opinion swung decisively against America in all American interventions abroad.


46 posted on 07/29/2009 4:35:06 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Bender2

“Adlai was noted, you know, for his brilliant intellectual demeanor, his ‘gifted’ ever so eloquent oratory and his never ending promotion of liberal causes.”

One of the great liberal myths of all time, Adlai’s brilliance. He flunked out of Harvard Law (Dean Griswold kept his records a secret) and was nothing better than average at Princeton and Northwestern.

Nothing wrong with being an average student, until the press perpetuates a myth that you’re brilliant beyond words.

Kennedy is another great liberal myth, with his ghostwritten books and his bogus Pulitzer.


47 posted on 07/29/2009 4:35:58 PM PDT by nyc1
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To: NormsRevenge
And another way Obama is just like Ike: golfing... /s

(Notice how the Dems are co-opting another Repub president?)


48 posted on 07/29/2009 5:02:06 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: Borges
"Who with a functioning brain thought that ‘any’ period in history was ‘serene’? "

My thought exactly!

And any comparison the the wimpish issues-bungler now occupying the WH completely neglects the "backbone & balls" factor.

49 posted on 07/29/2009 5:04:22 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: NormsRevenge

It seemed “serene” because ADULTS WERE IN CHARGE!

An old argument comes to mind: was Kennedy a better leader for handling the Cuban Missile Crisis, or was Ike a better leader since the USSR never would’ve thought of pulling that crap on his watch?


50 posted on 07/29/2009 5:06:29 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: NormsRevenge

The truth is, 1950s Americans makes today’s America seem like a freakish, totally divided country, infested with tens of millions of of illegal aliens, foreigners, Muslims, gangs running entire cities, with a corrupt, intrusive, punitive government that could care less about America’s best interest, or it’s legitimate citizens. A government that now wants to control everything in the country, including banking institutions, health care and private businesses.


51 posted on 07/29/2009 5:20:21 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Future Snake Eater
It seemed “serene” because ADULTS WERE IN CHARGE!

Then they were replaced with other adults, like the sultan of socialism LBJ, born in 1908, that brought us his modern Great Society, war on poverty, Federal funding for education and the rest of his destructive socialistic policies.

52 posted on 07/29/2009 5:28:30 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Just because you’re old doesn’t make you an adult.

Ike was an adult. LBJ was not.


53 posted on 07/29/2009 5:29:53 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Tell that to the “It’s the baby boomers fault” lobby.


54 posted on 07/29/2009 5:31:30 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Nah, that makes for a fine generalization, but the simple truth is that every generation has its heroes and zeroes. The Greatest Generation had some retards. The Baby Boomers fought in Vietnam and brought about the Information Age. Generation X is leading a good portion of the current war and Generation Y is fighting it. My generation has a lot of scumbags, but also a lot of good dudes.


55 posted on 07/29/2009 5:34:29 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I’m not talking about hero’s, I am referring to the rapidly declining state of this country.


56 posted on 07/29/2009 5:36:50 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: NormsRevenge
"The records show the U.S. has long been concerned over its relationship with the Muslim world."

No kidding.

That would mean the U.S. State Department, of course, and perhaps the insiders at the Washington Post, the New York Times and other establishment media.

Not the American public, though, as the establishment media have consistently left the public in the dark as to what our government is up to in far-off corners of the globe -- either because they don't have the resources or, more likely, because they've been directed to.

57 posted on 07/29/2009 6:46:36 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: angkor

I knew that was you! Good to see you again ;o)


58 posted on 07/29/2009 9:44:53 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Bender2

“Vote for Adlai - He’s better than you !” ;-)


59 posted on 07/30/2009 1:08:55 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Clemenza; Lurker

>>>> Truman was clueless about the level of communist infiltration in his own government. <<<<<

My Dad who was a Republican activist of sorts beginning in the 50’s, told me that he personally knew several card-carrying Communists when he was a student, and that there were in fact organized “social events” designed to seduce young people into the Communist Party USA.


60 posted on 07/30/2009 3:37:04 AM PDT by angkor
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